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This actually helps counter your original point though….

Except that it doesn’t. It shows one way that these devices can be abused and Apple’s questionable defense against it. Furthermore the privacy issues aren’t restricted to the people around you. Your privacy is exposed when using the device as well.

But I’m sure every rabid Apple fan will continue to lambast any hint of legitimate criticism of the device because… Apple.
 
Except that it doesn’t. It shows one way that these devices can be abused and Apple’s questionable defense against it. Furthermore the privacy issues aren’t restricted to the people around you. Your privacy is exposed when using the device as well.

But I’m sure every rabid Apple fan will continue to lambast any hint of legitimate criticism of the device because… Apple.
Funny you ignored my prior reply that perfectly ruins your point….

I’ve no issue with genuine criticism, but flawed points will be challenged.
 
My point stands. Mocking me doesn’t rebut my position.

No mocking. You mocked him by your immature reduction of his point to ‘because Apple’ and then a couple of posts later attacked him because you (falsely) claimed his argument was ‘because Apple’.

I didn’t and it didn’t.

But really, if this is the level of discourse you’re inclined to engage in, I don’t see much reason to continue.
It does, and the fact you’re dismissive of it proves that you’re disingenuous in your discourse over this device due to your prejudicial attitude. You've made it clear that anyone that says anything positive about the device is a 'rabid Apple fan'. You're not here for genuine discourse, you are just here to get into an argument, and it was foolish of me to think otherwise.
 
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But I’m sure every rabid Apple fan will continue to lambast any hint of legitimate criticism of the device because… Apple.
This is it right here. You've already decided that people who are interested in Vision Pro or don't agree with your criticisms are Apple Fanboys. You're not even engaging with points being made, your arguing an ideology you've fabricated for everyone else in your head. "Because Apple."

I'm not an Apple fanboy and you know nothing about me. In fact, I've even criticized Vision Pro on this forum. But anyway, I'm gonna hit the ignore button cuz this is annoying.
 
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Great, I can see it now — you're sitting in an aisle seat enjoying some movie on your shiny new Vision Pro...
...the person in the window seat doesn't want to disturb you, but is dying to use the lavatory. Tries to step over you, trips on the charging cable, falls on top of you smashing his head into your Vision Pro....
You've never seen people wear eyemasks on flights? have you never had to tap someone on the shoulder to wake them up for that matter?
 
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When was the last time your plane seat didn't have access to an outlet?
Ah yes, nothing like having to take a headset off, look for your charging cable, plug it in, and put the headset BACK ON just to watch a movie…Also, where are you storing this device while traveling? You clearly do not travel for long distances. What about needing to go to the bathroom? meanwhile, you have an iPhone in your POCKET…
 
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You've never seen people wear eyemasks on flights? have you never had to tap someone on the shoulder to wake them up for that matter?
That’s rare and they aren’t fully immersed or separated from the outside world. This is ENTIRELY different. You clearly have little to no experience with VR and how separated you are from the outside world.
 
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People are already virtually incapable of staying in their personal spaces while cramped into airplanes. Eye tracking or no, do you really want someone who’s effectively blind and wearing a bulky object on their faces sitting so close to you on a flight? Sounds… sub-optimal.
Also, at what point will the Vision Pro be banned due to safety reasons? If there were an emergency how would a Vision Pro user know?
 
They have changed. At least on Delta there are AC and USB, as well as personal displays with entertainment and movies, oh, and free wifi. I just close my eyes and zone out.😴
The last time I flew Delta, the “free wifi” was broken on both flights… it was a drag! (At least they warned us before the 2nd flight took off, so I had time to download a book.)
 
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Ridiculous. I don't know about you but I barely have enough place to sit on a plane... no way I will allow somebody starting to wriggle next to me with that on his head.
 
That’s rare and they aren’t fully immersed or separated from the outside world. This is ENTIRELY different. You clearly have little to no experience with VR and how separated you are from the outside world.
I take a lot of redeyes, it’s not rare

And a lot of folks who take sleeping pills before a flight to help sleep are pretty damn checked out
 
I take a lot of redeye it’s not rare

And a lot of folks who take sleeping pills before a flight to help sleep are pretty damn checked out
There’s a lot of people presenting false points for the sake of just slating it, rather than genuine criticism. Don’t entertain them as not worth wasting time.
 
So, you see it as a kind of suppressor. A device that isolates people FROM you.

Huh. Weird, since that’s a key element of my argument against AVP.

And no, no one said anything about legal rights.

Problems arise in these discussions because people often read what they want to see, not what’s actually on the page in front of them.
Absolutely can be something that isolates you. But that’s not the argument. The arguement is that all the devices we have already do that. They isolate you. They are individual devices. The point is, they do it imperfectly. So, you are trying to isolate or experience something and cant do anything well (the experience, the isolation, or the interaction when needed). This would help at least achieve something.

So, don’t try and read into my point past the intended purpose.That’s silly.

No one did say anything about legal rights.

It was a joke about how somehow people are more up in arms about someone using a headset than I ever thought possible. Probably the same people who have too many opinions on what people should do with their money.
 
That’s rare and they aren’t fully immersed or separated from the outside world. This is ENTIRELY different. You clearly have little to no experience with VR and how separated you are from the outside world.

Also, at what point will the Vision Pro be banned due to safety reasons? If there were an emergency how would a Vision Pro user know?
It doesn’t even cover your ears. You’re literally safer using AVP than you are falling asleep with headphones on and people have been doing that on planes for decades.
 
Also, at what point will the Vision Pro be banned due to safety reasons? If there were an emergency how would a Vision Pro user know?
Without any doubt, any VR headsets would be banned during taxi, takeoff and landing. At other phases of flight there really are few emergencies that passengers will face or have reason to respond to. So really no difference compared to headphones, sleeping or even drunk or medicated.
 
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