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Apple Vision Pro Virtual Keyboard Blasted As 'Complete Write-Off'

Smartass said:
The only effective way of typing is via physical keyboard. Humans have this really great feature, thats called "fingers", which allow them to touch, feel and use stuff, even when not looking directly at it. Believe it or not, It's highly effective. But unfortunately, majority of developers and UX designers these days think, that the answer to "what comes next after physical keyboard/buttons?" is a solution via touchscreen. You can see this sheer stupidity in modern cars like Tesla, Mercedes, Audi, BMW etc. where they keep removing phyiscal buttons, and replacing them with touchscreen. Typing "in-air" like this keyboard utilizes, is on same level as touchscreen typing - It's annoying, it's cumbersome and it's stupid.
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It is always easy with new tech to claim "this new whatever is stupid, the old way works better," because initially it always does. But tech keeps evolving. What is stupid is denigrating new tech at its very inception just because it is (always) initially a soft target.

That said, data input has always been my question about how well AVP will function. How it evolves will be interesting. Personally I would like it if we could get more lap-friendly, voice-friendly BT keyboards with numerical input pads. [Anyone with suggestions, please respond.]
 
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Awesome! I never learned to type, so one key at a time will be just fine, did not know you could press multiple keys at once, ignoring ctrl, shift,... and get a coherent word come out ; )
 
ProfessionalFan said:
Physical keyboards will be hard to beat. Same ideas as those 2 screen laptops they showed at CES where you can either use a physical or virtual keyboard. Everyone agreed the virtual keyboard is not a great experience to use.
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This will may change with user age and usage habits. I‘ve become very comfortable typing on the 12.9 iPad screen. I don’t mind it on smaller iPads. The Keyboard just takes up to much screen space on the smaller iPads.
Screen typing is what my three kids prefer. They don’t even own devices with physical keyboards. As for me, I enjoy the tactical feeling of keyboard at times. What we grow up using becomes what we prefer many times.
 
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Rychiar said:
People say that about the quest and I still use mine almost every day a year after buying it🤷🏻‍♂️ you’re either super impressed and excited by VR devices or you’re not . Persists been a dream since I was a kid
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I love that journey for you and those like you who enjoy VR and similar experiences, but I fear that the Vision Pro's popularity isn't going to be nearly as high as Apple were hoping for.

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people don't want a computer suctioned onto their face, and of those that do, I'm going to bet most* don't want to pay a 3k price premium over the Quest. Apple will have to drop the price if they want to try and convince people this is the future, and even that might not be enough. Traditional computing is just too practical for the most part, as is watching programming on a TV.

You can't share the experience of Vision Pro as far as I've seen in Apples promotional stuff, so do a family of five each need one, and if that's the case, how does it work?

If you're single and live in a shoebox with no room for a TV or computer monitors, it might be a fantastic option, but if not, Vision Pro creates more very expensive problems than it solves.
 
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I thought this was a given you’d need a kb for kb type of input. Who really thought otherwise?
 
cosmichobo said:
Steve Jobs would NEVER have allowed this to go to market...
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Can we retire this meme? You don’t know what Steve would or would not allow. He often had to accept compromises on secondary features to launch what he really wanted.

Steve allow the touch screen keyboard on the original iPhone even though it was objectively worse than the physical keys before. That was a practical compromise to allow a full touch screen for other uses. He also signed off on shipping the iPhone without copy/paste. (Thanks for pointing that out, @HobeSoundDarryl )
 
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Kylo83 said:
It needs controllers like the quest 3
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When all the journalists that got to use it (and the couple of developers) shared their experience, they all agreed the gaze tracking and hand tracking was amazing. It's just for typing that it falls short. I fail to see how controllers like the Quest 3 are so much better for typing, it still amounts to a 3D mouse for typing, which doesn't seem at all better than this virtual keyboard.
 
Smartass said:
The only effective way of typing is via physical keyboard. Humans have this really great feature, thats called "fingers", which allow them to touch, feel and use stuff, even when not looking directly at it. Believe it or not, It's highly effective. But unfortunately, majority of developers and UX designers these days think, that the answer to "what comes next after physical keyboard/buttons?" is a solution via touchscreen. You can see this sheer stupidity in modern cars like Tesla, Mercedes, Audi, BMW etc. where they keep removing phyiscal buttons, and replacing them with touchscreen. Typing "in-air" like this keyboard utilizes, is on same level as touchscreen typing - It's annoying, it's cumbersome and it's stupid.
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LOL it was the iPhone that removed the physical keys and a whole keyboard from phones.
 
mid-air typing is actually one of the things I'm looking forward to most - I hope they can figure out a way for it to work reliably in the future, though that seems like a tall order..
 
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Smartass said:
The only effective way of typing is via physical keyboard. Humans have this really great feature, thats called "fingers", which allow them to touch, feel and use stuff, even when not looking directly at it. Believe it or not, It's highly effective. But unfortunately, majority of developers and UX designers these days think, that the answer to "what comes next after physical keyboard/buttons?" is a solution via touchscreen. You can see this sheer stupidity in modern cars like Tesla, Mercedes, Audi, BMW etc. where they keep removing phyiscal buttons, and replacing them with touchscreen. Typing "in-air" like this keyboard utilizes, is on same level as touchscreen typing - It's annoying, it's cumbersome and it's stupid.
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Uh what phone do you use?
 
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Smartass said:
The only effective way of typing is via physical keyboard. Humans have this really great feature, thats called "fingers", which allow them to touch, feel and use stuff, even when not looking directly at it. Believe it or not, It's highly effective. But unfortunately, majority of developers and UX designers these days think, that the answer to "what comes next after physical keyboard/buttons?" is a solution via touchscreen. You can see this sheer stupidity in modern cars like Tesla, Mercedes, Audi, BMW etc. where they keep removing phyiscal buttons, and replacing them with touchscreen. Typing "in-air" like this keyboard utilizes, is on same level as touchscreen typing - It's annoying, it's cumbersome and it's stupid.
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Anyone with half a brain wails every time one of those silly contraptions gains traction as the next big thing - like when everything had be about motion capture ~15 years ago to make everything work like in Minority Report.

The good news is, once the half-baked novelty ideas hit the proverbial wall, they can be salvaged to be useful for other things.
 
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Anyone with half a brain wails every time one of those silly contraptions gains traction as the next big thing - like when everything had be about motion capture ~15 years ago to make everything work like in Minority Report.

The good news is, once the half-baked novelty ideas hit the proverbial wall, they can be salvaged to be useful for other things.
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Don’t forget about the added benefit of billions of dollars and countless hours over more than a decade spent developing a toy that has an exceptionally high likelihood of utterly failing!
 
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He may be right, but they said the same thing about typing on a touchscreen. They said people will want physical keyboards. See any phones lately with Physical Keyboards? I think this will probably be fine for casual typing. Sending iMessages etc. If you want to write your next novel of course you will grab a physical keyboard.
 
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Nimrad said:
This will stay as a backup solution for the foreseeable future.
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They needed a keyboard interface. It was never going to be amazing. I cringe every time the keyboard pops up on the Apple TV. Thank god for speech-to-text and iPhone remote control!

"Speech recognition should work brilliantly on Vision Pro(STOP)"
 
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