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Apple Vision Pro Weighs Almost as Much as a 12.9-Inch iPad Pro

citysnaps said:
In general...

It would be nice if people here stop looking for "problems" and instead flex their imaginations a bit and look for solutions.
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This narrative cracks me up.

Nobody had to try and imagine the solutions that Apple was solving when they launched iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Silicon, etc. because they were incredibly obvious and revolutionary.

If you have to try and imagine ways a product might possibly help, it ain’t a good product. Period.
 
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Does this thing need a HANS device?

HANS device

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What really cracks me up is how these comparisons are made about the weights without actually showing them on a comparable basis.

The AVP weight as listed and compared doesn't include the battery. The other devices have it built in. Now, you can say that the weight that you are compelled to put on your head is lighter with the AVP than with the MQP, but you still have to put it somewhere and you will also have a cable to the battery to contend with.
 
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mmcmah said:
What really cracks me up is how these comparisons are made about the weights without actually showing them on a comparable basis.

The AVP weight as listed and compared doesn't include the battery. The other devices have it built in. Now, you can say that the weight that you are compelled to put on your head is lighter with the AVP than with the MQP, but you still have to put it somewhere and you will also have a cable to the battery to contend with.
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Having used PC tethered VR, I can assure you that the cable/battery “hanging” away from the device won’t matter
 
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Wizard_of_Woz said:
Right. I wasn't speaking for anyone else here, although there are plenty of people who think the weight of the APM is off-putting based off what I've read in multiple forums. There are also plenty of people who don't find the weight to be a problem. However, if you asked all of those people if they would rather have a lighter version of APM, at least 95% of them would say yes. The other 5% would be lying.
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I have had heavier headphones in the past, and I wouldn't mind a lighter set. But I'm still not complaining abut the weight of the APM.
 
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sphark said:
Having used PC tethered VR, I can assure you that the cable/battery “hanging” away from the device won’t matter
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Just my sole opinion, but I disagree with this. I absolutely hated being tethered, it always felt like a bit more weight back there pulling it down. No, not a huge effect, but still a few extra grams when you account for the cable, most of which I encountered were pretty thick and beefy, and the connector. It was so bad that I purchased one of those pulley systems you hang from your ceiling to hold up the cable, that's when I started to wonder if I really wanted to keep doing that and sold my Quest 1. I ended up getting a Quest 2 later on that was much more comfortable without the cable, but then battery life/graphics and all that made me again tether it with a thick/beefy cable, and ended up selling that one as well. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to bother with one of these until they are a lot lighter and more comfortable.

Now the VP cable looks pretty thin/light so in this case it probably doesn't matter much.
 
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Absolute weight doesn't really matter if the weight distribution is good. The IPP 12 (and all Apple's devices) feel lighter than they actually are because of their great weight distribution.

Wish I could scalp it, but the fitment step makes it a no-go.
 
spinedoc77 said:
Just my sole opinion, but I disagree with this. I absolutely hated being tethered, it always felt like a bit more weight back there pulling it down. No, not a huge effect, but still a few extra grams when you account for the cable, most of which I encountered were pretty thick and beefy, and the connector. It was so bad that I purchased one of those pulley systems you hang from your ceiling to hold up the cable, that's when I started to wonder if I really wanted to keep doing that and sold my Quest 1. I ended up getting a Quest 2 later on that was much more comfortable without the cable, but then battery life/graphics and all that made me again tether it with a thick/beefy cable, and ended up selling that one as well. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to bother with one of these until they are a lot lighter and more comfortable.

Now the VP cable looks pretty thin/light so in this case it probably doesn't matter much.
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The original comment seemed to be about the VP cable and batter being a bother. Yes, being tethered to a PC isn’t ideal, but based on my experience with that, the VP will be better. At least you can clip the battery if you want to get up and move around. People are finding any reason to complain… without even trying it!
 
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sunapple said:
I can wear APM for 8 hours with no issues. It will come down to the straps, luckily there are two included in the box.
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You must work out.

Remember guys are people on this forum that think they can wear it all day.

You know the YouTubers are going to race to release

“WORE VISION PROS FOR 24 HOURS!!!!”
 
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sphark said:
The original comment seemed to be about the VP cable and batter being a bother. Yes, being tethered to a PC isn’t ideal, but based on my experience with that, the VP will be better. At least you can clip the battery if you want to get up and move around. People are finding any reason to complain… without even trying it!
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Yeah I hear you. Personally I like that they offloaded the weight onto a separate battery, but at the same time this weighs more than most headsets WITHOUT the battery so I feel like we are going backwards instead of forwards technologically. As much as the premium materials are great looking, I'd rather they just went with plastic and ditched the front screen. Of course this is a flagship and meant to pull out all the stops, will be looking forward to a more consumer centric version in the future which will hopefully be lighter.
 
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eicca said:
This narrative cracks me up.

Nobody had to try and imagine the solutions that Apple was solving when they launched iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Silicon, etc. because they were incredibly obvious and revolutionary.

If you have to try and imagine ways a product might possibly help, it ain’t a good product. Period.
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Oh no I got one better for you, the narrative that people give that "nO oNe KnEw If iPhOnE wOuLd Be sUcCeSsfUl" is a WAY better one like I wasn't there to or something and saw it literally change things before it even was released. They called it Jesus phone after all lol.

Anyways despite how much I crap on AVP (and yes I know I do, a lot) it for the most part lines up weight wise, battery wise, etc with other headsets, which is one of the problems imo, it's just another niche AR/VR product, not something that made Meta, Sony, etc scramble to produce an answer to it. I had a hard time articulating why I have such a disdain for the AVP and I think it is best summed up as its a product in search of a problem when there is no problem to be solved, and Apple is marketing it as a consumer device at hobbyist prices. The great thing is of course like any high technology Apple makes, eventually parts of it trickle down to other devices, but I think I'd have less of a problem with it if Apple was like "Hey check out our new hobby product" instead of trying to compare it to it's greatest products of all time.
 
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spinedoc77 said:
Just my sole opinion, but I disagree with this. I absolutely hated being tethered, it always felt like a bit more weight back there pulling it down. No, not a huge effect, but still a few extra grams when you account for the cable, most of which I encountered were pretty thick and beefy, and the connector. It was so bad that I purchased one of those pulley systems you hang from your ceiling to hold up the cable, that's when I started to wonder if I really wanted to keep doing that and sold my Quest 1. I ended up getting a Quest 2 later on that was much more comfortable without the cable, but then battery life/graphics and all that made me again tether it with a thick/beefy cable, and ended up selling that one as well. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to bother with one of these until they are a lot lighter and more comfortable.

Now the VP cable looks pretty thin/light so in this case it probably doesn't matter much.
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I’ve used tethered and attached battery and I dislike both.
 
eicca said:
Nobody had to try and imagine the solutions that Apple was solving when they launched iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Silicon, etc. because they were incredibly obvious and revolutionary.
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They certainly did with the iPad. The iPad was just a big iPhone that doesn't fit in your pocket and can't even make phone calls. Paul Reubens (as Pee Wee Herman) made a video where he invited people over to his playhouse to celebrate his new iPad. In the skit he used it as a serving tray. And the name! It was celebrated as perhaps the worst name imaginable. What would anyone need such a ridiculous device for? What did it replace? What was its killer app? What was Apple thinking? Steve Jobs had a couple of good ideas, but this one is a dud.


Why couldn't people see how incredibly obvious and revolutionary the iPad was? I'm wondering that now about Apple Vision Pro.
 
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MrSegundus said:
We’re not hardware engineers. That’s not our job.
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One doesn't need to be a hardware engineer to dream a bit about possibilities.

Richard Feynman wasn't a hardware engineer, but with his fertile imagination and voracious curiosity lived a pretty amazing and interesting life.

Check out this book.

Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman! The Birth of a Classic.
 
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