The lack of power adapter bothers me because: first, the cable they are giving you, will not work with your existing chargers, as it is a USB-C to lighting cable and not a USB-A to lighting cable, your old chargers from apple were all AC-to-USB-A. Second, she states “the cable is faster and more modern”. USB-A has been the most used interface basically since it was introduced, and while USB-C is a newer connector, make no mistake the iPhone and its lighting interface are the bottle neck, not your USB3.0-A connection.
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Apple VP Kaiann Drance Interview Addresses Battery Life, MagSafe, and Power Adapter Concerns
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The whole 2x and 4x is interesting. 'Ceramic shield' glass has 4 x better drop performance than the previous iPhone (11). That iPhone had 'the strongest iPhone glass ever' and then the back of the iPhone 12 is still 2 x stronger than the previous iPhone. How does one measure a base 1x strength? How does one test 2x and 4x?
Note that reviewers who received pre release phones were specifically told not to drop test - great marketing giving people the illusion of glass that won't break but then not letting anyone test the marketing claim.
Apple are genius marketers - pure and simple.
Edit: the new slim iPhone boxes are incredibly thin - the real winner of no charge adaptor is Apple in drastically reducing their shipping costs across all iPhone models - It's the size of a deck of cards!
Note that reviewers who received pre release phones were specifically told not to drop test - great marketing giving people the illusion of glass that won't break but then not letting anyone test the marketing claim.
Apple are genius marketers - pure and simple.
Edit: the new slim iPhone boxes are incredibly thin - the real winner of no charge adaptor is Apple in drastically reducing their shipping costs across all iPhone models - It's the size of a deck of cards!
iPhone 12/Pro.. battery life is.. not that good
The problem with hotel card keys is well established. Happens all the time sliding the keycard into the same pocket as your iphone x for instance. Shouldn’t be a surprise
breaking the glass on the back of iPhones is quite a sensitive topic. Apple charges ca. 1/2 of the iphones retail price to get it fixed. To not have the best glass available on the back is ridiculous unless they have changed their repair prices with iphone 12
edit: same cost still. £530 to have the back repaired on iPhone 12 Pro. Ridiculous
breaking the glass on the back of iPhones is quite a sensitive topic. Apple charges ca. 1/2 of the iphones retail price to get it fixed. To not have the best glass available on the back is ridiculous unless they have changed their repair prices with iphone 12
edit: same cost still. £530 to have the back repaired on iPhone 12 Pro. Ridiculous
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Yes, but it matters much less if the back is cracked and yes, Apple charges way too much for those repairs. To the point of absurdity if you ask me.
Was the information accurate?
Was it in any way misleading?
Are there “lying by omission” problems with any of her statements?
I don’t care if whoever is explaining is obviously reading a prompter mounted on the camera. Is what they are saying true and what aren’t they saying that they should be are really the only things that I care about.
Not every potential iPhone customer has a Mac - let alone a MacBook - and USB-C is far less widespread outside the Mac world. Even the current iMac, Mac Pro and Mac Mini have more USB-A sockets than USB-Cs - and the USB-Cs double as connectors for second displays and high-speed devices like SSDs, so using them for charging a phone when USB-A can do the job is a waste. Also, USB-C docks/hubs with more than one or two USB-C sockets are like hen's teeth whereas you can't throw a brick without hitting a 10-port USB-A hub.
...and, yeah, I'm swimming in charger bricks that are capable of charging an iDevice overnight and need another one like I need a hole in the head. However, they're all USB-A (as are the ones you'll find in planes, trains and hotel rooms - assuming you want to risk those).
Of course, what almost every maker of USB-C peripherals not called "Apple" does is to include two cables - or a USB A-to-C adapter - in the box of their $1000 product... but, silly me, including an extra cable with a phone is the straw that's gonna break the biosphere's back - forget producing non-repairable phones and then imploring people to throw them away every year... and it's not as if cables are things that people ever wear out or need spares of...
If Apple are really concerned about baby penguins being strangled by USB cables, here's an idea: ship iPhones with no chargers or cable but include two (virtual) vouchers each or which can be exchanged for either a cable, a charger - or $10 Apple Store credit if you "go 'green'" and choose to re-use existing hardware. The store credit would quite likely be an effective loss-leader anyway - although the reality is that nothing is quite as effective as selling people $1 worth of cable for $30...
For that you would need something like a sapphire screen, which is what goes on the front of expensive Swiss watches. I have one of those and deliberately dragged it across a brick wall to see how well it fared. Not a scratch, which is the idea.
But what happened to the hundreds of millions of dollars that Apple invested in a company intending to make sapphire screens? Did that all go pear-shaped?
She forgot to say “Presented by Verizon.”
If it's about the environment and not about the money, can I please have my free charger?
I've been buying iDevices since 2008, but have no usb-c charger and all the lighting cables are terrible quality and don't last long, even with gentle use, they are just cheap.
I've been buying iDevices since 2008, but have no usb-c charger and all the lighting cables are terrible quality and don't last long, even with gentle use, they are just cheap.
100% Understand. I think this is to be said about all phone companies. There are now mini super computers in your hand.
Who gets excited about a computer update?
When you think about it, phones cost the same amount of $$ as a laptop, how often are we upgrading to new laptops? I assume that’s going to be the same with phones. Eventually the hottest phone hype is going to plateau.
I could also see Apple moving eventually to a new phone every other year once this plateau happens. I’m pretty sure they see the writing on the walls which is why they’ve moved to services because that’s a Constant source of cash flow.
Am I the only person that notices the keywords of download and upload speeds? Not that it’s currently slow, but It seems like surfing the internet, or load times within apps like the App Store won’t see a boost. ONLY when you “download & upload” files.
Also, anyone know if SpeedTest is even really the best way to check your internet’s “speed” ?
I assume it’s just simulating again - your download & upload speed.
Also, anyone know if SpeedTest is even really the best way to check your internet’s “speed” ?
I assume it’s just simulating again - your download & upload speed.
I mean . . . This is every sales person / and or rep for every company in the world.... why would anyone talk negatively about a product their company is trying to sell?
The "available from today, starting at $799 and $999 respectively" feels like a punch in the gut.
iPhone 11 reveal was good times.
iPhone 11 reveal was good times.
Same w/ Scratches!!!
I literally took my earring out thinking it was that, but quickly remembered...I use AirPods. 😑
I think Apple needs to be careful with this change. Not including the charger is fine and switching from USB-A to USB-C is fine but the two together could cause an issue the size of when the MacBook Pro ditched the USB-A ports.
People like us that are interested in tech likely already have a USB-C charger or knew about this switch before hand and appreciated the benefits of USB-C over USB-A and could pick up a decent 3rd party charger cheaply.
However, a large part of Apple's customers are not interested in tech - they are the kind of people who just get a new phone every 2-4 years and know that Apple 'just works' or have had Apple devices before. Some of them may have heard about the lack of charger but know that USB-A chargers are common and built into a lot of things these days and wouldn't even consider that the cable supplied would be different too. Then when the phone arrives they can't charge it and find out they need a further $20 part from Apple...
Remember when the MacBook Pro went USB-C only? Much more of a niche product than the iPhone and the complaints and media interest that stirred up led Apple to reduce the price of their USB-C to USB-A dongle to $10 for several months. It would have been nice if they'd done pro-actively something similar here before they are forced to. (Or , as several people have suggested, included both a USB-C and a USB-A cable in the box!)
People like us that are interested in tech likely already have a USB-C charger or knew about this switch before hand and appreciated the benefits of USB-C over USB-A and could pick up a decent 3rd party charger cheaply.
However, a large part of Apple's customers are not interested in tech - they are the kind of people who just get a new phone every 2-4 years and know that Apple 'just works' or have had Apple devices before. Some of them may have heard about the lack of charger but know that USB-A chargers are common and built into a lot of things these days and wouldn't even consider that the cable supplied would be different too. Then when the phone arrives they can't charge it and find out they need a further $20 part from Apple...
Remember when the MacBook Pro went USB-C only? Much more of a niche product than the iPhone and the complaints and media interest that stirred up led Apple to reduce the price of their USB-C to USB-A dongle to $10 for several months. It would have been nice if they'd done pro-actively something similar here before they are forced to. (Or , as several people have suggested, included both a USB-C and a USB-A cable in the box!)
Well isn’t somebody just pissing on my leg and telling me it’s raining.
She definitely comes across as disingenuous. She "answers" questions like a politician does - they have a pre-canned response and they crowbar it in whether it answers the question asked or not.
Yeah, you're so mesmerized by her eyes that you discount the doublespeak she's saying.
Why else would Apple choose a cross-eyed spokesman to put before the world?
She completely dodged the screensaver question.
Extremely rehearsed and scripted. You can tell by her eyes moving off screen and how she continues to talk without skipping a beat or using "umm, uhh, and". People who have stuff in front of them to read, don't say those words.
I think she is probably a wonderful person but I agree with others here. The corporate spiel that's being conveyed smells like poo. I don't like being talked to like I am 2 years old. I also don't like to be fluffed. Just seems so "our way or no way" vibes. No thanks.
Everyone, please let's just discuss the content of what she said or the way she said it.
Let's try not to discuss and shame a person's body or physical attributes. That's not the point and it's not right.
The problem with all the hype about 5G is that it's exactly just that: hype. Look at any 5G coverage map around the world in detail, and you'll find that it's extremely poor at the moment. Buying a 5G phone for 5G internet access right now is a waste of money for 99%+ of users. I say it will take about another 2 years before most of us, even in large cities and capitals can say that 5G coverage is decent enough to warrant a 5G phone. At this point selling the iPhone 12 is like selling a boat in a desert with two swimming pools that are not even connected to each other.