What innovation? All of this has been done before. Seems like the same old is being rolled out.
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Prove it.And I will repeat.Nothing on the iPhone comes close to the innovation Samsung did with the GearVR. Simply groundbreaking
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Ew, shut. up. Get out of the basement for an hour or two and look around.
Well one innovative thing is Amoled screens. Something Samsung developed in house and together with LG are world leading. Don't forget that only the microchip in Apples iPhone is developed by Apple. The rest of the iPhone is technology glued together from other manufacturers. Also there are lots of health sensors built in to the Samsung S7 edge which are able to sensor blood pressure, oxygen levels and lot's more... That kind of stuff I like because I don't need an extra device for all of that
Who said anything about overturning SCOTUS decision? The USITC's only enforcement power is to issue "an import ban"-- and all of Apple's products are made oversea except a few MacPro's that are made in TX. Again in addition to publishing guidelines on how certain patents issues are to be interpreted, POTUS can effectively nullify the ITC's decision, which can't be appealed or questioned.
Well one innovative thing is Amoled screens. Something Samsung developed in house and together with LG are world leading. Don't forget that only the microchip in Apples iPhone is developed by Apple. The rest of the iPhone is technology glued together from other manufacturers. Also there are lots of health sensors built in to the Samsung S7 edge which are able to sensor blood pressure, oxygen levels and lot's more... That kind of stuff I like because I don't need an extra device for all of that
AMOLED is just an OLED display with Active Matrix addressing. OLED was developed in the 1980s, and Active Matrix addressing was around that time also.
Nokia also used an AMOLED screens before Samsung did, with the N85.
So, no. AMOLED is not a Samsung/LG development. Infact, Samsung simply LICENSE the OLED technology from the company which own the rights, that is the Universal Display Corporation.
His was a valid request to ask that someone back up a claim.
98G4LKPEW here as well, and vet of FS Korea and the 329th ASA Tactical Support - 2nd Div.
Love your user name, btw. Niven fan.
You might be too young to know, but Korea went through a pretty horrible war in the 50s, not long after being really messed up during WW-II.
So, the same as with Japan and Germany, their slow rebuilding of industry often relied on copying the US for a long time. It takes a while for countries to recover from being bombed to nearly nothing.
Of course, we all know what happened later on in the 1980s, when Japanese technology and Germany engineering caught up and started eating American products for lunch. Yep, the USA started copying those other countries.
Korea, who is still technically at war, and always under nuclear threat from a nutcase close by, has to go through a similar healing and growing process just like any other, but it will take longer there.
I'd say they're getting pretty innovative, but yes in general I'd say that in that part of the world, locking down ideas to a single owner is not seen as a valuable concept. Such is life. Different cultures.
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There is not need to lrove
I've asked for same to back up claims but get hyperbole, fallacious logic, shifting of goal posts etc. so no it wasn't a legitimate request unless one doesn't choose to cherry pick stuff.
So by that logic, who is innovating?
Apple?
If so, what aspects?
I'm sure we can go back through time and invalidate every innovation due to prior usage of basically anything on any modern smartphone.
I Wasn't saying applications aren't innovative. Or even getting into that discussion.
If you look at my post. You will see it was a response the one I quoted. And that was correcting somebodies claim that Samsung and LG created amoled
This sounds a bit misleading, from what I've been reading Samsung and LG hold the most AMOLED patents, ie inventions, improving the technology and making it viable for smartphones. To give an example, recently Samsung registered another patent for flexible AMOLED displays which they showed at CES. So there is definitely some cutting-edge development and inventions happening, and it's not just licensing.
Coincidentally, it turns out Apple also holds quite a bit of OLED/AMOLED patents, at least 59 according to this article, including one to put a fingerprint reader behind the screen.
We'll see if Apple ever materializes their patents, but for now Samsung is leading.
But they did develop the screens inhouse no?
I dont see where the claim was made that Samsung or LG invented oled.
And you can't prove they are but another poster proved oled etc were around before Samsung started using them. Sigh.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Display_Corporation
Define an innovation then.
I'll have a go
"Innovation is: production or adoption, assimilation, and exploitation of a value-added novelty in economic and social spheres; renewal and enlargement of products, services, and markets; development of new methods of production; and establishment of new management systems. It is both a process and an outcome."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovation
Is putting hardware in a device that another company manufactures innovation? Is putting a wifi chip in a phone innovation; if that's what you're getting at.
I fail to see how this refers to the damage phase of the trial.
Oh, the old "not on topic" rebuttal....
As to your question, yes, if done in a way the seperates itself from the rest in a meaningful way, that would be innovative, like Samsung has done with omled/oled and much in the same way as Apple did with fingerprint sensors.
That's like saying Intel or AMD don't invent their chips because the one who actually does is Global Foundries in Germany
In addition if you bothered to read that link you posted you would realise that I was talking about the S7 Edge innovations and the display on that phone is not made by UDC
The one who actually does R&D in OLED and invests billions is Samsung
http://www.oled-info.com/samsung-oled
"Samsung is one of the leaders in OLED display research and the clear leader in AMOLED production. OLED Displays are thinner, more efficient and offer better picture quality than LCD or Plasma displays."
"Samsung is confident that OLED displays is the best future technology - especially for mobile devices. Samsung invested billions of dollars in OLED research and production facilities. In February 2012 Samsung PR summarizes the company’s view on OLED technology: “Currently, the display market is undergoing rapid changes with OLED panels expected to fast replace LCD panels to become the mainstream.”"
Then by your logic Apple didnt invent iPhone. Foxconn did.The design is made in California and Foxconn's hardware is installed
Well actually I was around when the first cell phones were put into cars in the 1980s, so like it or not, neither of those companies invented the cell phone. Motorola did. By some of the logic flying around here the iphone is a rehashed cell phone.
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Nothing like changed the goal posts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED
You are claiming oled is a samsung innovation, not really, according to the link.
Eastman Kodak in the 1980s Now nobody would deny ideas in the lab to a manufactured product are a huge leap, but to claim oled is a samsung innovation is just plain false.The iPhone is not a conventional cellphone.In any case you made a unrelated point . Your claim is Samsing licensing UDI displays , putting wifi chips in the phone is not innovation. In such a case NOTHING on the planet is innovation . Intel didnt invent any processor because they used GF. Corsair didnt invent any PSU because most of their PSUs are made by Seasonic. Dell computers are a mishmash of Foxconn parts
You are claiming oled is a samsung innovation, not really, according to the link.
Yes its a Samsung innovation.Are you saying pumping billions and billions of dollars into R&d on a screen technology, being the largest production entity on the planet , developing the best screen on the planet is not innovation?
Your definition o innovation seeems to be fluid sending on the company bein referred to.
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How is a technology developed by Kodak in the 80s, then used by Nokia in the 90s, a Samsung Innovation?
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How is a technology developed by Kodak in the 80s, then used by Nokia in the 90s, a Samsung Innovation?
Prove it.
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They reduced the cost, improved the quality, and figured out how to get it into a phone, i.e. the kind of thing Apple does.