In the meantime, the word "may" has been over-emphasized a number of times.
Good point. It may have been the iPad.
In the meantime, the word "may" has been over-emphasized a number of times.
Or maybe none of the above.Good point. It may have been the iPad.
Honestly, as much as I'd like to join-in on the kick-Sammy-fest, and as pretty-much an exclusive Apple-User (except for work) since 1976, I just CAN'T completely fault Sammy for having batteries with a higher-than-normal catastrophic failure rate (likely internal layer-layer short-circuiting), exacerbated by the high internal battery temperatures generated by fast-charging methods being used to offset the long charge times necessitated by having batteries nearly TWICE the capacity of those in the iPhone 7, but, due to the battery-hogging tendencies of the SoCs being used in the S7, only having a little LESS battery-life than the 7 Plus...Yeah. It was awfully innovative to make a phone that explodes in your pocket or burns down your car or house. They were WAY ahead of Apple on that
Yeah. It was awfully innovative to make a phone that explodes in your pocket or burns down your car or house. They were WAY ahead of Apple on that one.
However they added a flair of a world wide recall along with a US aircraft ban.If you're going to repeat a dumb joke, at least get it right.
You see, before and after the Note 7, iPhones have done those things as well.
So you can be proud that Apple was likely first with exploding smartphones. Samsung just copied Apple and made theirs do it more often![]()
Actually, Samsung did counter-sue and won. But guess what? Apple went asking Obama for help. Obama reversed Samsung's ITC win which would have banned Apple's iPhone.
It is no coincidence that Apple lost lawsuits everywhere, but in the US. In the UK, for instance, Apple was ordered to apologize to Samsung. In Germany, after obtaining an injunction on the Galaxy tab's with "doctored" evidence, Apple was defeated on every single account. So let's not pretend that Apple's victory was grounded on some sounding legal principle or impartial jury/judge system.
You can have a case and NOT sue. The Huawei Mate 9 Pro is an exact copy of the S7 Edge while the Google Pixel is also an exact copy of the iPhone 6 but you don't see Samsung sue Huawei or Apple suing Google now do you. Almost always the only company Apple sues is Samsung when their claims on Samsung are easily spotted in other manufacturers products.Not everybody has a case strong enough to win. As kdarling pointed out, apple has a case, even taking account the shenaningans of MIcrosoft and apple at the beginning. Here we are today and the only question is how much.
Well the courts found otherwise, but I found it interesting about reaching beyond the ether, again.
Actually, no.
If you take a glance at the picture at the top of the MR article, you should PLAINLY see that it doesn't take "an obscure section of the patent laws" to determine whether Samsung "...deliberately released a product intended to confuse the unwary consumer..."
I mean, it's similar to a company that starts releasing products in the same categories as Apple, using a corporate logo that is a sylized Apple, but without the iconic "bite", and calling themselves "!Apple" (a geek joke, meaning "NOT Apple").
But !Apple's products all run Windows 10 and Android. So they are CLEARLY "NOT Apple".
Should Apple be able to sue them successfully? What would YOUR arguments be, if you were APPLE's attorney? Now, what would your arguments be if you were !Apple's attorney?
Now, what would your decision be as the JUDGE? Was there an attempt to deceive? What damages, if any, are indicated?
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Anybody who actually takes a look at the new MBPs and concludes that the Mac is left on Autopilot, simply isn't paying attention.
If you're going to repeat a dumb joke, at least get it right.
You see, before and after the Note 7, iPhones have done those things as well.
So you can be proud that Apple was likely first with exploding smartphones. Samsung just copied Apple and made theirs do it more often![]()
If you're so tired and bored, then kindly take your Tired and Boring Microsoft Logo and
Leave!!!
Good. Samsung *CLEARLY* copied Apple, and the best part is they're still doing it lol.
It's obvious to anyone with a set of eyes. Call me a fanyboy or whatever I don't really care at this point but it's freakin' obvious as it could possibly be that Sammy put the copy machine on full throttle with the iPhone.
Oh and while I'm here iPad too ha
I will gladly hear you out on how Samsung copies Apple right now.
Samsung used to (key emphasis on used to) somewhat copy Apple back in 2010 but not anymore.In fact the tables have turned and now its Apple copying Samsung
Who compelled Apple to release a bigger phone? Samsung. The Note 2 was the first usable phablet on the planet. I still remember all the Samsung hate which started when Samsung came out with the first massive phablet. You would still be stuck on 4 had Samsung not kickstarted the big screen Revolution
Take a look at this
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Who forced Apple to adopt OLED? Samsung who has pioneered the technology since 2011
Who forced Apple to adopt a curved edge display in iPhone 8? Samsung
Who forced Apple to adopt wireless charging? Samsung
I ask anyone to prove to me how since 2011, how did Samsung copy Apple?
You have 8 months left to deny it.In the mean time,Apple is still copying competitors including SamsungWhat's funny is iPhones don't have OLED, curved edged displays or wireless charging in their phones, so your comment is completely null and void.
I think every single manufacturer has stolen or will steal something from another company. He nailed it here.
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You have 8 months left to deny it.In the mean time,Apple is still copying competitors including Samsung
http://www.businessinsider.com/Appl...the-Samsung-playbook/articleshow/51534089.cms
Now about my orginal question,how is Samsung copying Apple since 2011?
Wrong. The Mac audience has entirely changed. A Mac was a long term investment and was purchased for the purpose of being a productive tool. I have a late 2009 iMac running macOS Sierra/OS X Snow Leopard and a PowerMac G5 running OS X Leopard/OS X Tiger. Both are still going strong and purchased as tools and serve that very purpose. The modern MacBook Pro is a shadow of the previous generation release. USB-C is limited and inflexible with the need to purchase third party docking solutions to achieve anything approaching productivity.They have. And the new MBP, iPhone 7 and iPad Pro, AirPods and the AppleTV are all MILES ahead of both the competition AND even their own previous version of those products.
But all Haters like you can do is whine, whine, WHINE!
Yawn....Apple had evidence suppressed to bolster the case here in the US, notice about the ONLY place they won is here in the US? Gee, what a coincidence.Anyone talking about rounded corners does not understand the comprehensive evidence in this case.
There is a ton of evidence against Samsung, and that's why Apple rightly won. In my mind there are three particularly damning pieces of evidence that came to light in the case:
- By far the worst in my opinion is the design presentation where Samsung management had hundreds of slides, with each slide showing a specific design feature of their phone and how it compared to the iPhone. On almost every single slide is some sort of instruction from management to engineering to "make it more like iPhone". Over and over and over again, from hardware design to software features, to UI, and even down to the little things like color tint and icon orientation..."More like iPhone".
- The internal Samsung memo that kicked off the whole effort to change their smartphones is replete with language about how they needed to stop what they are doing and copy Apple.
- The memo from Google to Samsung where Google warned Samsung that the designs they were seeing from Samsung were way too similar to the iPhone. So even Google, Samsung's partner and Apple's competitor, felt that Samsung had gone too far in copying Apple.
My "favorite" story about Samsung:
One day in March 2011, cars carrying investigators from Korea’s anti-trust regulator pulled up outside a Samsung facility in Suwon, about 25 miles south of Seoul. They were there ready to raid the building, looking for evidence of possible collusion between the company and wireless operators to fix the prices of mobile phones.
Before the investigators could get inside, security guards approached and refused to let them through the door. A standoff ensued, and the investigators called the police, who finally got them inside after a 30-minute delay. Curious about what had been happening in the plant as they cooled their heels outside, the officials seized video from internal security cameras. What they saw was almost beyond belief.
Upon getting word that investigators were outside, employees at the plant began destroying documents and switching computers, replacing the ones that were being used—and might have damaging material on them—with others.
A year later, Korean newspapers reported that the government had fined Samsung for obstructing the investigation at the facility. At the time, a legal team representing Apple was in Seoul to take depositions in the Samsung case, and they read about the standoff. From what they heard, one of the Samsung employees there had even swallowed documents before the investigators were allowed in. That certainly didn’t bode well for Apple’s case; how, the Apple lawyers said half-jokingly among themselves, could they possibly compete in a legal forum with employees who were so loyal to the company that they were willing to eat incriminating evidence?
They built up their mobile business because of Apple, LOL, they were already IN the mobile business. Also, learn what REPLICA means, as for form, there is very FEW forms you can use for a PHONE...Fun living in your world? Just take one look at those two phones. It goes WAY beyond just shapes, but a complete replica of an entire device — form and functionality. Samsung needs to pay up, because they built up their mobile business on Apple's back, while Apple PAID them for their technology and services (chips, manufacturing, etc.).
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And you are here because.... you have a Mac, or are you "stuck with a poorly-designed iPhone"?
Right, I guess I am emphasizing what you are emphasizing.Hence my use of “may”.
Timmy did his market research and determined apples customers wanted a bigger phone and then release it. Apple had record breaking earnings and went to most valuable company.Who compelled Apple to release a bigger phone? Samsung.
Apple adopted OLED, where can I buy an OLED based apple phone? Wait, it's rumor, so is must be a fact.cWho forced Apple to adopt OLED? Samsung who has pioneered the technology since..
What curved display? Can you prove apple will actually release a curved display other than the rumor (fact) mill?Who forced Apple to adopt a curved edge display in iPhone 8?
Guaranteed apples version of "wireless charging" will wipe the floor over Samsungs versionWho forced Apple to adopt wireless charging?
- long press instead of 3dtI ask anyone to prove to me how since 2011, how did Samsung copy Apple?
Yes thats my point. Why did Apple customers want a bigger phone? I will tell you why.Thanks to Samsung the entirety of Android was already using massive screens.The pressure was building on Apple to build a larger phone just like how its building now for OLED.If it wasnt for Samsung pioneering the large screen revolution we would have continued staying on small screens.Timmy did his market research and determined apples customers wanted a bigger phone and then release it. Apple had record breaking earnings and went to most valuable company.
They already adopted OLED on AW some time after Samsung did on their smartwatch.But you guys can deny it all you want . Everyone knows the iPhone 8 is gonna be OLED . Kuo is never wrongApple adopted OLED, where can I buy an OLED based apple phone?
By the time Apple is implementing wireless charging and curved edge displays,Samsung is already on foldable displaysGuaranteed apples version of "wireless charging" will wipe the floor over Samsungs version
- long press instead of 3dt
- finger print reader upgrades
Anyone talking about rounded corners does not understand the comprehensive evidence in this case.
Oh, and lest you not believe me, here is that 2010 Apple patent, showing not only the EXACT representation that became the "revolutionary" Surface Studio (6 YEARS before its debut), but also what looks suspiciously-like a representation of a "tile-based" UI, JUST like what MS later unveiled as "Metro". Hmmm. Hadn't noticed THAT before...
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2010/08/the-mother-lode-welcome-to-the-imac-touch.html
So apple customers wanted a bigger screen because Samsung had one? Not because phone screens were getting bigger in general and jobs held apple back from producing one? Some sound logic there.Yes thats my point. Why did Apple customers want a bigger phone? I will tell you why.Thanks to Samsung the entirety of Android was already using massive screens.The pressure was building on Apple to build a larger phone just like how its building now for OLED.If it wasnt for Samsung pioneering the large screen revolution we would have continued staying on small screens.
OLED on AW is a perfect application, with burn-in and color shifting, not so much on a smart phone.They already adopted OLED on AW some time after Samsung did on their smartwatch.But you guys can deny it all you want . Everyone knows the iPhone 8 is gonna be OLED . Kuo is never wrong.
Maybe Samsung mobile division will turn a profit at some point. They need all of the help they can get after the Note 7 fiasco.the time Apple is implementing wireless charging and curved edge displays,Samsung is already on foldable displays
Finger print reader was available before use on smartphones; which doesn't make it an innovation. What makes it innovate is the way apple has integrated it into their ecosystem.The Note series uses S Pen hover.Not long press.Fingerprint reader is ripped off from Motorola Atrix.
Looks like it's a Korean thing. Hyundai and Kia got their start by blatantly reverse engineering.This is the reason I will not buy products from Samsung. They are copy cats.