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Some Apple users are WAY to precious about the look of their devices. These are designed to be used, not sit in a display cabinet. They are going to get the wear and tear of life.

Yes, but we expect wear and tear from daily use over time, not from official Apple accesories after ONE DAY of use. And less from an accesory that does not make sense to begin with. In terms of usability, there is no difference whatsoever between this and the lightning cable: I connect the cable that is attached to the charger or I connect the magsafe that is also attached to the charger. Exactly the same movement. And on top of that, is not even as fast as the cable connection. Completely useless device.
 
Yeah, it looks like the first generation MagSafe charger and probably MagSafe Duo charger as well should be avoided until Apple finds a way to prevent these ugly marks from happening to cases. Additionally, the MagSafe chargers are useless for charging older iPhones unless you don’t mind it taking several hours.

They are useless charging new phones as well. How is it better connecting the magsafe than connecting the lightning cable? It is the same thing, attached to the same cable and the same charger. And it is even slower!
 
Some Apple users are WAY to precious about the look of their devices. These are designed to be used, not sit in a display cabinet. They are going to get the wear and tear of life.
I don’t think showing concern for witness marks appearing on a £50 case after one days use is being ‘precious’. Let’s be real here, it’s a design oversight and I’d be using a different option. I don’t study my device adoring every aspect like some dribbling fool, but I expect a decent quality product when it carries a premium over many of the cases currently on the market.
 
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Apple is Issuing warning about MagSafe.

1. It can interfere with magnetic strips on cards.
2. Increase heat build up from magnets means charging to 80%
3. Damage leather cases circular rings.

I’m really considering just keeping my 6s for another yr. I wish they would make an iPhone for those that don’t want magnets in our phones.

 
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I don't mind so much that it creates an imprint on a leather case; mentally, my eyes see that it makes a cool, circular highlight of the Apple logo - and that looks better to me than the Apple clear case with the protruding white circle & line of magnets on its backside.

Leather cases inherently develop imperfections during normal use; the wear is what makes them cool!

I just pray that Apple doesn't make MagSafe the only way to charge our future iPhones, by taking away the charging port. A cable works much better for my typical use than MagSafe.
 
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I found rings on the back of my caseless Pacific Blue iPhone after each night of charging it this weekend. I was able to easily rub them off with my finger, but I won't use it again for fear that over time it will leave a permanent ring.

I am taking it back today.
 
I makes you wonder if they even tested this with cases or they already knew it would do this and said oh the public will still buy it. Lol
 
MAGSAFE is A GIMMICK. Apple is now on its last downslope falling down from the mountain peak created by Steve Jobs. Apple needs to find someone who can run the company like Steve did. Otherwise, the inertia left with the demise of Steve Jobs won’t last any longer.
Yep objectively, Apple is now on it's last downslope...certainly can be seen in the financials of the company.
 
Yes, but we expect wear and tear from daily use over time, not from official Apple accesories after ONE DAY of use. And less from an accesory that does not make sense to begin with. In terms of usability, there is no difference whatsoever between this and the lightning cable: I connect the cable that is attached to the charger or I connect the magsafe that is also attached to the charger. Exactly the same movement. And on top of that, is not even as fast as the cable connection. Completely useless device.

Noreover, if someone snags or trips on the cable and whips the phone off a desk, it’s probably more likely that the puck will disconnect and drop the phone on the deck like a sack of potatos. The more I think about 2020 MagSafe the more I think it’s nonsense. Worst accessory ever.

EDIT: I love Apple products for the most part, but this one sucks.
 
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Noreover, if someone snags or trips on the cable and whips the phone off a desk, it’s probably more likely that the puck will disconnect and drop the phone on the deck like a sack of potatos. The more I think about 2020 MagSafe the more I think it’s nonsense. Worst accessory ever.

EDIT: I love Apple products for the most part, but this one sucks.
What's different about the magsafe then usb to lightning cable. Seems like if the cable is exposed so that a person can trip over it, they will trip over it and down goes the phone like a sack of potatoes.
 
I’ve never been interested in “wireless charging” that need their own wires. Lightning works great and is very fast comparably. In the meantime I’m going to enjoy the 12Max w/ a black leather case. Soon I think Apple will get rid of the lightening port all together, and go to a no port design. I think people hoping for a USB C port in the iPhones are in for a disappointment. Remember when everyone wanted a two button mouse? Later Apple gave us a NO button mouse! But that’s just my own opinion, I’d be happy to be wrong.

Generally I love Apple stuff. If I don’t care for something, I’m not compelled to buy it...
 
MKBHD also noticed a ring around his caseless iPhone as well in his review. He was also able to wipe it off easily with his fingers as well. But I do wonder about long term usage with that thing.

I fail to see the advantages of Magsafe over just a Qi charging pad. Sure it looks cooler and all. But otherwise...I think I'll pass on this 1st generation of this product.
 
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There are probably more than 500 million Apple customers, each with their own viewpoint, which they are entitled to. Your feeling is magsafe is gimmick and apple is on the downslope. Expect to be challenged with that viewpoint, although nobody is suggesting you cannot hold an opinion such as that. As you said above: "Don't think that you are the only Apple lover (critic) who knows apple inside out."
Then challenge it with rationality, not with some sarcasm. I shared my viewpoint which is “ Apple is falling down from its peak“. Sooner they produce or acquire great talents akin to those who were there in Apple during the first decade of 21st century when Apple had launched ipod, iphone, ipad, macbook air and other plethoras of industry changing products and services; better it will be for Apple. During the second decade, what new things have we seen from Apple. Apple watch was not revolutionary at all. We had seen this band type fitness trackers before Apple pulled it off. Apple watch is selling mainly because it looks good and not because it serves a huge purpose. Iphones are okay and they are still good. But the way company is trying to project itself to the people in terms of its image is something which the instagrammers would do. Apple never had to do many promotional things or to concede to environmentalism crap to sell their products. People used to buy their products because they are made beautifully with added reliability. They should focus on their techs and innovations rather than spending too much time on promotion and image building. The usual Apple users who use their products for its reliability have been doing great for the environment by upgrading their iphone or ipads once in 4 or 5 years. Apple do not have to remove the charging brick for the sake of environment. It does not make any sense. To put this into perspective, many regular low end or mid tier android phones users replace their phone every 1 or 2 years because they are unreliable. So, the rationale for environmentalism is to make products which last long and not adding some products like magsafe which does not solve any problem but will certainly increase the carbon footprint because magsafe is much bigger than lightening and magsafe also needs a charging brick.
 
MKBHD also noticed a ring around his caseless iPhone as well in his review. He was also able to wipe it off easily with his fingers as well. But I do wonder about long term usage with that thing.

I fail to see the advantages of Magsafe over just a Qi charging pad. Sure it looks cooler and all. But otherwise...I think I'll pass on this 1st generation of this product.
I’ll say it again that I feel magnets like this don’t belong on any cellular phones. We don’t know the long term consequences of this...
 
... I shared my viewpoint which is “ Apple is falling down from its peak“...
While I don't agree with this viewpoint, and objective Apple financials don't jive with this opinion, I think my overall comments still apply regarding the universe of connected individuals to Apple.

There is a large universe of people connected to Apple. Shareholders, customers, observers, companies that make a living decoding Apples' data, etc, easily have to be in the billions and no one will have the same view point. While it's a general statement, and seems to be somewhat true, those who grew up with Apple and Steve Jobs have a different viewpoint than those who didn't.

And those two viewpoints don't seem to mesh.
 
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I’ll say it again that I feel magnets like this don’t belong on any cellular phones. We don’t know the long term consequences of this...
Magnets this strong will surely affect pacemaker wearers. In the name of technological advancement, this people have completely forgotten the health aspects. Another example being OLED with its flicker. And no one knows he long term consequences of using Bluetooth headset for an extended period of time. I am not talking about Apple only but the path that the whole industry is taking. Infact, I trust apple more than other companies when it comes to safety and privacy.
 
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Magnets this strong will surely affect pacemaker wearers. In the name of technological advancement, this people have completely forgotten the health aspects.
Nothing that can be proved. People with pacemakers have to be careful around microwaves...is that an Apple issue or are you just saying in general?

Another example being OLED with its flicker. And no one knows he long term consequences of using Bluetooth headset for an extended period of time.
Yep, I'm a bit sensitive as well...Samsung phones gave me a headache and I was worried about getting the xs max. It's turned out to be fine for me.

I am not talking about Apple only but the path that the whole industry is taking. Infact, I trust apple more than other companies when it comes to safety and privacy.
Do you trust the Apple will release products that it deems safe and within health guidelines?
 
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What bothers me is that the magnets are assisting in the electrical charge of the batteries inside the phone. We don’t know the long term affect of something like this. I mean this is very different than just a magnet affixing to another magnet to keep it on your car vent. This is a magnet being used to conduct an electrical charge and will assist in heating up the battery. I’m no scientist but can this be good?
 
Then challenge it with rationality, not with some sarcasm. I shared my viewpoint which is “ Apple is falling down from its peak“.

I think the more accurate observation is that Apple is slowly transitioning into a more traditional company, and its behaviour will start to match those of a traditional company.

I wouldn’t say that Apple is falling down from its peak though. Circumstances changed, the company changed, and that’s just the way she goes.

Apple will continue to grow and prosper for a good long time to come, not despite all the things that people are criticising them for, but because of it, as this is all evidence of their design-led product culture that no other company can emulate.

Sooner they produce or acquire great talents akin to those who were there in Apple during the first decade of 21st century when Apple had launched ipod, iphone, ipad, macbook air and other plethoras of industry changing products and services; better it will be for Apple.

I have thought about this long and hard myself, and decided that it would ultimately not be in Apple’s best interest to do so.

Apple doesn’t need another Steve Jobs or Scott Forstall, because they introduce way too much friction into the mix, and only a founder has the cultural capital to make everyone willing to set everything aside and work towards a common goal.

I have no doubt Tim Cook is absolutely the right person to lead Apple right now. Him firing Scott Forstall was evidence of that.

During the second decade, what new things have we seen from Apple. Apple watch was not revolutionary at all. We had seen this band type fitness trackers before Apple pulled it off. Apple watch is selling mainly because it looks good and not because it serves a huge purpose. Iphones are okay and they are still good.

Wearables are shaping up to be the next big thing for Apple, and it’s clear that no one else in the tech industry is capable of catching up.

But the way company is trying to project itself to the people in terms of its image is something which the instagrammers would do. Apple never had to do many promotional things or to concede to environmentalism crap to sell their products. People used to buy their products because they are made beautifully with added reliability. They should focus on their techs and innovations rather than spending too much time on promotion and image building.

The usual Apple users who use their products for its reliability have been doing great for the environment by upgrading their iphone or ipads once in 4 or 5 years. Apple do not have to remove the charging brick for the sake of environment. It does not make any sense. To put this into perspective, many regular low end or mid tier android phones users replace their phone every 1 or 2 years because they are unreliable. So, the rationale for environmentalism is to make products which last long and not adding some products like magsafe which does not solve any problem but will certainly increase the carbon footprint because magsafe is much bigger than lightening and magsafe also needs a charging brick.

I think on some level, many people here recognise the merits of what Apple is trying to do here, but they also see the costs involved in switching (namely having to buy a new charging brick) and are using it to anchor criticism and resist change.

It’s like the removal of the headphone jack. Give it a year or two and we will look back and be amazed we even had this discussion in the first place.
 
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Hey Apple boy. That’s my opinion. you sound like Apple is yours and you are the messiah of Apple Religion. Man, its one thing to peak in their earning. Nokia was capturing every market till 2006 but it did not anticipate its weakness and what its competitors are doing and hence the downfall. See, I am not an Apple basher. I have been using their techs since 2010. But the way they do things recently leaves a lot to be desired. And you don’t have to be that irritating punk who defends each and every criticism thrown against apple by the genuine lovers. Don’t think that you are the only Apple lover who knows apple inside out.

You are adding way too much drama and name calling to your claim that Apple is doomed. Which, in all fairness, has been shouted by many more from the rooftops, especially during the second coming of SJ.
 
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You are adding way too much drama and name calling to your claim that Apple is doomed. Which, in all fairness, has been shouted by many more from the rooftops, especially during the second coming of SJ.
See. I want a civil discourse. But if a person who has a blind faith on apple hits me with a sarcastic comment, then I also have the right to hit him back with not so decent choice of words. Peace.
 
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Nothing that can be proved. People with pacemakers have to be careful around microwaves...is that an Apple issue or are you just saying in general?


Yep, I'm a bit sensitive as well...Samsung phones gave me a headache and I was worried about getting the xs max. It's turned out to be fine for me.


Do you trust the Apple will release products that it deems safe and within health guidelines?
We don’t carry the microwave oven with us, do we? that’s an absurd analogy. See, people live and eat with their phones, sleep with the phone beside them. Phones have become a part of us. So, it is highly important for the phone industry in general and Apple in particular (since they are leading the industry) to make sure that any negative health implications emanated from using smartphones is minimise to benign level.
 
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