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There have been other smartphones with 'magsafe' in the past without this issue, ie Palm Pre. To be fair it was designed such that using a case wasn't as important.. anyone remember when phones were durable enough to be used without cases? Yea Apple started the whole delicate-scratch-gate stuff with iPods.
It only worked with a case.

The Touchstone Charger requires compatible back cover, which also is sold separately for the Pre, while the Pre Plus comes with the touchstone-compatible back cover included.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre#Charging
 
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It only worked with a case.

No, it wasn't a 'case', the Pre had a removable back plate, unlike the iPhone, so basically you'd buy this back cover, and replace the stock one. The video below shows how you'd attach/detach it:


Edit: Rewatching that video is so interesting, that was 2009! They were truly ahead of their time.
 
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I'd still say less problems with Megsasafe on Mac. Compared to this, all you gotta care about is dust

Convience pays off yet again.
 
I always thought most (or all) folk buy a case in order to protect the phone, treating the case as the sacrificial skin. In other words, there's an expectation of the case protecting the phone from drops as well as wear over time from "normal things" like putting it in your pocket, resting it on a table repeatedly, etc. I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting a case to remain perfect but I do think that's a pretty impossible ask.
I share your sentiment. At the same time, it appears that Apple released a product that pretty much damages the case right away (and will possibly damage the phone as well, if one doesn’t use a case. That doesn’t seem right to me. I expect my case to get damaged through normal use by protecting the phone. However, if I buy an Apple made accessory that damages the case through correct usage, I consider that a fault of the vendor and would seek restitution from Apple, as well as immediately stop the specific accessory usage.
 
No, it wasn't a 'case', the Pre had a removable back plate, unlike the iPhone, so basically you'd buy this back cover, and replace the stock one. The video below shows how you'd attach/detach it:


Edit: Rewatching that video is so interesting, that was 2009! They were truly ahead of their time.
For some reason I remember it being bulkier than that...
 
Trying to understand the actual advantage. You connect and disconnect a lightning cable and you’ll attach and detach this thing due to its magnetic strength, with either technique you’ll fumble and have to hold both the phone and MagSafe to detach - what’s the solid advantage of this product? That you simply feel cooler charging wirelessly ? I don’t get it...
 
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From the looks of things the sides of the 12 are easily scratchable so I guess having an indentation on the case is better than scratching up the phone.

I'm still a little baffled as to why Apple would put polished stainless steel on the edges of the 12. I think a brushed finish would look so much nicer or even a matte finish. They would be less prone to scratches at least. The sides of people's phones are going to be massacred in a very short period of time with the route Apple took here.
 
Trying to understand the actual advantage. You connect and disconnect a lightning cable and you’ll attach and detach this thing due to its magnetic strength, with either technique you’ll fumble and have to hold both the phone and MagSafe to detach - what’s the solid advantage of this product? That you simply feel cooler charging wirelessly ? I don’t get it...

Great question. And I honestly don't think there really is a clear advantage right now. Its a gen 1 product and we will see major improvements in it over time.
 
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If Apple are issuing that sort of statement then the goods are not fit for purpose. Might buy one, use it for 6 months and then use my consumer rights under the ‘Sale of Goods Act 1979’ to get a free replacement lol. If you can prove there is a design flaw, you’re covered ;).
 
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Trying to understand the actual advantage. You connect and disconnect a lightning cable and you’ll attach and detach this thing due to its magnetic strength, with either technique you’ll fumble and have to hold both the phone and MagSafe to detach - what’s the solid advantage of this product? That you simply feel cooler charging wirelessly ? I don’t get it...

There is none. Apple without Jony Ive designs pure tech bling without the courage to test it in the realm of the living.
 
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Apple is a genius. One of the most beloved now-defunct features of Apple products has been the MagSafe connector on Macbooks. They were so tired of hearing the praise about it and the demands to bring it back that they decided to attach the name to something that will cause so many problems that the name "MagSafe" will evoke different feelings. ;)

Bonus, in typical parental fashion, Apple is telling customers, "MagSafe? You want MagSafe?! I'll give you MagSafe!" (in a way that was NOT intended by the requester) 😅
 
Oh dear! This is very unApple like. I reckon they didn't realise this during testing and have only found out recently. Not good. I'm sure some heads will be rolling.

I hope so. Quality control should’ve caught this let alone designers should’ve foreseen this and made the entire contact area non touching any metal for any potential.

just pure laziness and half-stepping! Necks should be smacked with much enthusiasm at Apple to those involved with MagSafe’s design (wallet included)
 
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I hope so. Quality control should’ve caught this let alone designers should’ve foreseen this and made the entire contact area non touching any metal for any potential.

just pure laziness and half-stepping! Necks should be smacked with much enthusiasm at Apple to those involved with MagSafe’s design (wallet included)
On the other hand this could be a tempest in a teapot, similar to the iPhone bending issue of yesteryear.
 
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Has anyone here came across leather before?
Leather weathers, it gets marks and such. The very nature of it doing so adds to the look and appeal of leather.
Of course placing an object to it which compresses the leather will leave a mark, but so will the other bumps and such it will take. In time the circle mark will be less visible and just a part of it’s overall look.
 
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do people really care if the case is scratched? 🤦‍♀️
I thought that was the POINT of the case.

I really don’t get using a case in the first place, but the only reason i can see to do so is to have something cheap and replaceable to absorb whatever damage the phone might otherwise have taken (and having owned iphones since the original, the only time a phone has been damaged in our household is when my wife ran her’s over with her car, and no case was probably going to help that :)
 
So they took MagSafe away from things that really needed it like laptops and put it on a phone that doesn’t need it, and that will now potentially damage your case?

There is no denying the iphone 12 looks great but I sometimes think they release some accessories as a joke and take bets on how many gullible people they can convince to buy them.
 
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There is no denying the iphone 12 looks great but I sometimes think they release some accessories as a joke and take bets on how many gullible people they can convince to buy them.

Like the battery case with the camel hump? Whoever bet on that won big 🤣
 
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