Yes how revenue is the trap. Apple could have a 1% market share and still be a gatekeeper because of their popularity. Imo tech got the message. Stay out of the eu or don’t make a lot of money.
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Apple Warns of Privacy Risks in EU's DMA Interoperability Requirements
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Nah market share and revenue aren’t relevant regarding how a dominant position is ascertained and if that position is being abused to entrench their market position.
The DMA might have added a revenue, consumer and business number that presumes that you are a gatekeeper. You can still meet the threshold and not be a gatekeeper.
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It certainly is.
Yah. Gatekeeper is an amorphous term to trap American tech.
Definitely isn’t. Technically if you have 45 million users out of 449 million EU citizens you could be assumed a gatekeeper with just 10%
We will se then if chrome takes over the browser market in Europe. And what other U.S. companies that might benefit massively from the gatekeepers loosing their grip.
Assuming a 30% market share, it’s a minority. That’s how the eu wrote the laws, to thread the needle.
I wouldn’t be surprised if big tech lessens the grip on the eu over time. It will be deserved for such a bad business climate.
IMHO Apple should not be forced to provide access to data on their services or apps through APIs to third parties. Meta does not grant Apple full access to user data on their Apps or provide APIs to do so.
One thing is to regulate the OS scene so that default Apps such as messaging, phone dialer, browser, App Store and so on to be replaced by other at users discretion.
This is something else and it’s dangerous.
Meta itself should instead be able to provide their alternative AirPlay like services on the iPhone, like others do.
One thing is to regulate the OS scene so that default Apps such as messaging, phone dialer, browser, App Store and so on to be replaced by other at users discretion.
This is something else and it’s dangerous.
Meta itself should instead be able to provide their alternative AirPlay like services on the iPhone, like others do.
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No. You can twist it as much as you want but you are still writing something wrong. Apple is (was) giving Google just the default option for search engine. Not a single user data was given by Apple to Google. Period
Again, this is just very very vague and doesn't refute anything i've said. Explain what you think is disingenuous.
I think it's disingenuous for Apple execs to be droning on constantly about privacy when they happily take Googles search cash.
What do you think Google is getting from that arrangement? what do you think they are paying a huge sum of money for??
They are paying it for access to the search data from iOS users. So yes, in effect, Apple is giving them access to iOS user data, unless the user changes the default search engine.
In would agree if you can explain how internet protocols have changed with or without cash. You won’t be able to so I don’t agreed with you.
Also, it’s default not a fixed setting.
Again NO. You are just twisting reality in your attempt to bash Apple. Those data could be accessed anyway (people often use Google as home page for browser) and as of today people can choose whichever search engine they want to default.
So, again, Apple isn’t selling users’ data to Google.
Once Apple take a fee they are actively involved in selling access to that data.
Apple used to use Bing as a backend for Siri search (a setting that cannot be changed by the end user.) until 2017 when they switched it to Google. I wonder why ... $$$$$$$$$
Nope.
Now it’s ChatGPT. Wonder why it can’t be changed. $$$$$
At this point nobody is changing anybody’s mind. So run with you prevailing theory. Apple will do what it wants. (Applicable to local laws)
Many sites don't give you the option to choose ´No´ at once. You have to go to the settings and chose from there. Which makes users to ignore and just click yes.
This is illegal now in the EU. Most sites have already changed the consent pop-ups. On the sites I visit frequently the "no" option is right next to the allow option.
You can pick search engines from a very limited preset list in Safari. I wonder why that's the case.
Or install your own search engine. You insinuating apple has some other deals going? Or they maybe the best experience for apple users?
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I use a search engine that isn’t in the list (Kagi). I have to use an extension, but it works fine. If Apple was squelching competition on Goole’s behalf they certainly wouldn’t allow that.
Apple clearly weighs lots of things when making decisions on behalf of its users. Privacy is import, but so is best experience for the majority of the users who will never change the default. I’d argue Google, while a shell of its former self, is much better than all other options with the exception of Kagi - and they’re never going to set a paid alternative as the default.
So Google makes sense. As I said before, I suspect Google would be the default even if Google didn’t pay one cent.
Like how much someone is paying them.
If privacy was most important they wouldn't serve up Google as the only option for Siri with no option to change it.
Siri primarily uses Apple’s own search engine, Apple Spotlight, and integrates results from third-party sources like Bing, Yelp, and Apple Maps for search queries. However, when users explicitly request web searches, Siri may redirect the query to Google if Google is set as the default search engine in Safari or the device settings. Otherwise, it uses the default search engine configured in Safari, which can be Google, Bing, Yahoo, Ecosia, or DuckDuckGo.
When Siri retrieves information from third-party services like Bing, Yelp, or Google, Apple prioritizes user privacy by minimizing the sharing of personal data. Typically, these services receive only the necessary data to fulfill the request, such as general location information to provide relevant results. Apple’s privacy policy emphasizes that Siri interactions are associated with a random identifier, not linked to your Apple ID or email address, ensuring that personal information remains protected.
Again, Apple weighs a lot of things. I’m sure the money plays a role. But I also think that if a terrible search engine with terrible results offered to pay Apple $50 billion to be the default, Apple would say no. Because user experience matters too.
Everything is a trade off. Privacy is important, but so is the best experience for users. If the best experience comes with unacceptable (in Apple’s opinion) privacy trade offs then a slightly worse experience wins out and vice versa.
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So you can do it if you choose.
You have the option where none existed before which is way better as you now have some measure of control over your data. I make a play where possible to avoid the sites that seem to deliberately present a million options.
I vote with my clicks.
Again with your disinformation. Siri isn’t using Google if Google isn’t your default choice