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To wait another year for revision 2 and hope it gets iChat is a bit disappointing don't you think?
 
How is the fact that you don't like a product a reflection on a "business practice?"

When it's a closed, locked-down system... yes. You shouldn't have to jailbreak your own device to give it the functionality it should have had at purchase...
 
I wonder what's so hard to grasp about a Mac user that isn't happy with what Apple does.

Nothing wrong with anyone being unhappy. I dislike proponents of devices (any devices) who insult people for not agreeing with their opinion. This works both ways however, and I do have to question the rationality of spending so much time and energy insulting the customers who decide a given product suits their needs. One isn't going to convince them by being abusive, even if one were to make good points, and one isn't going to change the direction of the company. Only money, or withholding it by not buying the product, will do that. Should the product fail, one will have gained nothing by ranting except looking like an anti-social git. Should it succeed, one will have only managed to look like an unimaginative fool who cannot see new market opportunities. Neither particularly endears one to potential employers.

Reasoned criticism is fine, as long as it is justified and retracted should it be shown to be unreasonable. Likewise, praise is fine as long as it is justified and retracted should it be shown to be unreasonable.
 
When it's a closed, locked-down system... yes. You shouldn't have to jailbreak your own device to make it function like it should have at purchase...

The only way it "should" function is the way Apple promises and advertises that it will function. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Your logic makes no more sense than saying BMW engages in "BS business practices" because when I buy a 3-series I have to pull out the engine and replace it with a ferrari engine if I want to drive faster.

The CNN article you linked to addresses each common complaint and says they're nonsense - the article even says this will be the death of flash. All the comments do is say "iPad sucks." Well reasoned. Not.
 
The only way it "should" function is the way Apple promises and advertises that it will function. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Your logic makes no more sense than saying BMW engages in "BS business practices" because when I buy a 3-series I have to pull out the engine and replace it with a ferrari engine if I want to drive faster.

The CNN article you linked to addresses each common complaint and says they're nonsense - the article even says this will be the death of flash. All the comments do is say "iPad sucks." Well reasoned. Not.

Agreed... their advertising firm was making ads that filled-in the blue legos of arrogance with actual content... somebody ALREADY filed a FTC COMPLAINT... and they are now replacing the ads with web pages that don't have flash on them... great biz practices, huh?
 
The only way it "should" function is the way Apple promises and advertises that it will function. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Your logic makes no more sense than saying BMW engages in "BS business practices" because when I buy a 3-series I have to pull out the engine and replace it with a ferrari engine if I want to drive faster.

The CNN article you linked to addresses each common complaint and says they're nonsense - the article even says this will be the death of flash. All the comments do is say "iPad sucks." Well reasoned. Not.


The comments on the CNN article were the beauty of the piece... everyone that read it was calling BS... NOBODY BOUGHT IT... THEY SAW THROUGH THE HYPE... guess you missed the point...
 
lmfao Right back atcha, kiddo! ;)

You might know me as "Macshill", keeping fanboys humble (basically holding a mirror right up to the faces and never letting them get away w/ fanboy hypocrisy) since August 2008 [...if I could remember my e-mail address to log in].

maybe that's the email addy with @swinginonBillGatesnutz.com ? Just a thought
 
Agreed... their advertising firm was making ads that filled-in the blue legos of arrogance with actual content... somebody ALREADY filed a FALSE ADVERTISING lawsuit... and they are now replacing the ads with web pages that don't have flash on them... great biz practices, huh?

Show me one place where they said "we support flash?" You can't. The only way you can interpret that video as meaning "we support flash" is if you know that that particularly picture on that website is produced by flash, which means you are looking for flash. If one is looking for flash, and one relies on that evidence instead of the damned spec sheet, one is a moron.

But nice change of subject. The point is, you don't like iPad. That's nice. That doesn't mean Apple is evil. It just means you should buy something else. Apple isn't personally out to get you. I own 5 iPhones and haven't jailbroken one of them. Clearly a lot of people are happy with the products as-is. The fact that you want more just means you should go buy something else.
 
Show me one place where they said "we support flash?" You can't. The only way you can interpret that video as meaning "we support flash" is if you know that that particularly picture on that website is produced by flash, which means you are looking for flash. If one is looking for flash, and one relies on that evidence instead of the damned spec sheet, one is a moron.

But nice change of subject. The point is, you don't like iPad. That's nice. That doesn't mean Apple is evil. It just means you should buy something else. Apple isn't personally out to get you. I own 5 iPhones and haven't jailbroken one of them. Clearly a lot of people are happy with the products as-is. The fact that you want more just means you should go buy something else.

I won't be buying this, and my ONE iphone is jailbroken... and I would say when their ad firm immediately starts redoing their ads after someone files a FTC complaint... that must mean SOMETHING, don't you think? You own five iphones? Just glue them together into a big itampax and you'll be able to multitask without the "SCARY" jailbreak.

FROM WIRED.COM:

Apple Video Shows iPad Flash Support, But Don’t Believe It

Read More http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/ipad-flash/#ixzz0e7RzYAmz


Paul Threatt, a graphic designer at Jackson Walker design group, has filed a complaint to the FTC alleging false advertising. His statement reads:

On the Apple iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch devices, Apple provides a proprietary web browser named Safari. On these electronic devices, Apple computer does not support the web browser extension commonly referred to as “Flash”. The Adobe Flash extension is a popular browser plug-in that has gained wide popularity due to its ability to easily display video and image based slideshows on the web.

In several advertisements and images representing the apple products in question, Apple has purposefully elected to show these devices correctly displaying content that necessitates the Adobe Flash plug-in. This is not possible on the actual devices, and Apple is very aware of that fact. Despite the controversial lack of support for Adobe Flash on these devices, Apple has elected to depict these correctly utilizing the Flash plug-in. This constitutes willful false advertising and Apple’s advertising practices for the iPhone, iPod Touch, and the new iPad should be forcibly changed.


Update 1:45 p.m. PDT: Weintraub has posted more information: “We’ve just got word from our source at Chiat/Day Media Arts Lab that they make fake optimized web pages for all of Apple’s commercials — which load faster. In this case they made optimized images to take the place of Flash and are redoing them as we speak.”

Updated 11:30 a.m. with Paul Threatt’s complaint filed to the FTC.
 
Still at a loss on WHY the need for a camera-iPad will sell!

So either you want a camera for Video conferencing in which case front facing makes regular picture taking difficult or a rear facing which make video conferencing difficult.

Video conferencing would be cool but you would need a stand.

Making a camera that would rotate from front to back or 2 cameras seems a little odd.

Also, who is going to walk around at their kids birthday with the iPAD and take pictures with a 10" pad?

50 years ago who most homes had 1 TV. Today we have 3-4 and some people have them in the bathroom.

•I have a Mac Mini on my screened patio with a SlingBox and a projector to watch TV and movies

•A Macbook for work and working at home

•Another Mini in my family room as an entertainment center and network hub

•An iPhone

The iPad works perfect so I don't have to lug my Macbook into the bedroom and for web access in other rooms.

Will be buying one for my Mom who likes emailing and web browsing and a minimal use of programs like word or excel.

Oh and there are a lot of those type of people out there like my mom who this will appeal to.

This might not be the "Star Trek" gadget tech people here wanted but it will sell to people who own a Tower and a CRT and are looking for an easy mobile addition to expand their use of the internet.
 
Lack of camera...

I got off topic because this thing is so riddled with flaws... sorry... back to the lack of a lousy $30-50 camera....
 
Gee, what happend to "someone already sued for false advertising?" Wrong again, huh?

And taking remedial measures is not proof of bad intent. In fact, by law, you can't use such measures as evidence of wrongdoing. The fact that someone fills a pot hole in their sidewalk when someone points it out to them doesn't mean they intended there to be a pot hole there in the first place.

Finally, I just filed an FTC complaint against you for multiple posting back-to-back. I actually did that. Do you think there's merit in that complaint? No? So the mere fact of an FTC complaint doesn't mean that it has substantive merit?

I won't be buying this, and my ONE iphone is jailbroken... and I would say when their ad firm immediately starts redoing their ads after someone files a FTC complaint... that must mean SOMETHING, don't you think? You own five iphones? Just glue them together into a big itampax and you'll be able to multitask without the "SCARY" jailbreak.

FROM WIRED.COM:

Apple Video Shows iPad Flash Support, But Don’t Believe It

Read More http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/ipad-flash/#ixzz0e7RzYAmz


Paul Threatt, a graphic designer at Jackson Walker design group, has filed a complaint to the FTC alleging false advertising. His statement reads:

On the Apple iPad, iPhone, and iPod Touch devices, Apple provides a proprietary web browser named Safari. On these electronic devices, Apple computer does not support the web browser extension commonly referred to as “Flash”. The Adobe Flash extension is a popular browser plug-in that has gained wide popularity due to its ability to easily display video and image based slideshows on the web.

In several advertisements and images representing the apple products in question, Apple has purposefully elected to show these devices correctly displaying content that necessitates the Adobe Flash plug-in. This is not possible on the actual devices, and Apple is very aware of that fact. Despite the controversial lack of support for Adobe Flash on these devices, Apple has elected to depict these correctly utilizing the Flash plug-in. This constitutes willful false advertising and Apple’s advertising practices for the iPhone, iPod Touch, and the new iPad should be forcibly changed.


Update 1:45 p.m. PDT: Weintraub has posted more information: “We’ve just got word from our source at Chiat/Day Media Arts Lab that they make fake optimized web pages for all of Apple’s commercials — which load faster. In this case they made optimized images to take the place of Flash and are redoing them as we speak.”

Updated 11:30 a.m. with Paul Threatt’s complaint filed to the FTC.
 
iPADSAD is SAD

When it out sells every ones predictions he will be yelling "you are all sheep!"

For iPADSAD and the small percentage of the people like him iPad won't work so don't buy but there are a lot of people it will work for and they out number you.

Apple knows this and that is why they are making money.
 
When it out sells every ones predictions he will be yelling "you are all sheep!"

For iPADSAD and the small percentage of the people like him iPad won't work so don't buy but there are a lot of people it will work for and they out number you.

Apple knows this and that is why they are making money.


"apple is god... the pad is perfect.... it meet everyones needs.... we love it.... Oh, we have anymore of that koolaid???? It's TASTY!"
 
"apple is god... the pad is perfect.... it meet everyones needs.... we love it.... Oh, we have anymore of that koolaid???? It's TASTY!"

iPad is not what many of us had hoped, but you're being hysterical about it. There clearly is a market for it.
 
Gee, what happend to "someone already sued for false advertising?" Wrong again, huh?

And taking remedial measures is not proof of bad intent. In fact, by law, you can't use such measures as evidence of wrongdoing. The fact that someone fills a pot hole in their sidewalk when someone points it out to them doesn't mean they intended there to be a pot hole there in the first place.

Finally, I just filed an FTC complaint against you for multiple posting back-to-back. I actually did that. Do you think there's merit in that complaint? No? So the mere fact of an FTC complaint doesn't mean that it has substantive merit?


Read the articles... they apparently IMMEDIATELY changed their video to avoid another false advertising suit. Smart move on their part...

I'm just trying to bring some news into the fanboy den that the rest of the world is seeing.....
 
Read the articles... they apparently IMMEDIATELY changed their video to avoid another false advertising suit. Smart move on their part...

1) they;ve changed NOTHING yet. All that we know is that the ad agency purportedly is working on redoing it

2) you missed my point. If someone told you there was an icepatch on your busy sidewalk, wouldn't you "immediately" fix it? Is it to "avoid a lawsuit" or is it because you don't want someone to get hurt?

The ad agency made a mistake, it was pointed out to them, and supposedly they are working on fixing it. Big deal. It's not like Apple is trying to fool people into thinking it has flash. Steve Jobs made a point of showing everyone that it doesn't support flash.

You keep changing the subject because your underlying premise is wrong and you don't want to discuss it.
 
iPad is not what many of us had hoped, but you're being hysterical about it. There clearly is a market for it.

You're right, it isn't even close to what 90% of the people hoped. I'm not hysterical... just killing time by bringing some light into this den of apple worshipers. And how well the first crippled version of this device sells remains to be seen... hopefully the market will respond appropriately....

Again... I have only apple products... but I'm not a blind follower
 
It cracks me up how many think that nixing the camera is due to cost savings... What do you people think happens, an Apple tech walks down to the local Best Buy, picks up a whole mess of cameras for $150 a pop & puts them in? The camera costs pennies, maybe a buck at the most per unit. They buy this in mass quantities... cost had nothing to do with it, profit did. Ver 2.0 will come out with a "REVOLUTIONARY re-design, now featuring a CAMERA!!!!" Come buy the NEW model!!! B.S. The big APPLE just turned into the big BUSINESS. Some much for the company who has the customer in mind.
 
1) they;ve changed NOTHING yet. All that we know is that the ad agency purportedly is working on redoing it

2) you missed my point. If someone told you there was an icepatch on your busy sidewalk, wouldn't you "immediately" fix it? Is it to "avoid a lawsuit" or is it because you don't want someone to get hurt?

The ad agency made a mistake, it was pointed out to them, and supposedly they are working on fixing it. Big deal. It's not like Apple is trying to fool people into thinking it has flash. Steve Jobs made a point of showing everyone that it doesn't support flash.

You keep changing the subject because your underlying premise is wrong and you don't want to discuss it.


Right... (Steve... that you??) NO BIG DEAL....:)
 
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