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Yes, that is exactly what I want to do. But why is the music then coming from the Watch and not from the phone? The Watch could serve simply as the control device while the music is streamed from the phone via Bluetooth. I REALLY hope that scenario will work, as that is one of my top 5 use cases for the Watch.

I think you will be able to do either one. The Watch actually has storage (8GB i believe) that you can upload your music to and use it without the phone connected. So if you want to go on a run without needing to carry your iPhone you can still listen to music with the Apple Watch streaming to your bluetooth headphones.
 
'More than reasonable'? I think not.
I was all in until the 18 hr battery life.

What if you take a vacation...wear your watch all day, get on the plane and then when you arrive you have to plug your watch in while you go out sightseeing?

Have you never done an all-nighter at work or school?

Of even if it's not an all-nighter... how about you stay out late at a friend's?
Sure, usually 18 hours will get your through. But don't forget it goes into restricted mode at some point and only functions as a timepiece. Is that at 16 hours?

And what about battery anxiety? Watching the battery run down and it's 8 pm and you're about to go out...do you become afraid to use 'notifications' lest your watch go dead?

Not for me. Not until there is a guarantee of at least 24 hours.

http://www.apple.com/watch/battery.html

Up to 18 hours means:
All-day battery life is based on 18 hours with the following use: 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, over the course of 18 hours. Battery life varies by use, configuration, and many other factors; actual results will vary.
 
My wife doesn't wear pants or pockets much. She carries her phone in her purse. I'm always frustrated when she's at home and I call her but she doesn't answer because she doesn't carry her purse around everywhere. With the Apple Watch that shouldn't be a problem.
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Umm, I may be wrong but I don't think you get notifications and cannot talk on your iWatch unless it's connected to your iPhone. With Bluetooth that means within a few feet of each other.
So you're still out of luck buddy.
 
I would definitely use this feature, not in public, but at work.
I'm an engineer so being able to talk on the phone to colleagues, hands free while I work on site without the risk of dropping my phone whilst at the top of some ladders will be of great benefit, to me.

Bluetooth earpiece will cost much less. If it/you fall from one of those ladders and damage it, another could be had for peanuts relatively (unlike this watch).
 
http://www.apple.com/watch/battery.html

Up to 18 hours means:
All-day battery life is based on 18 hours with the following use: 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, over the course of 18 hours. Battery life varies by use, configuration, and many other factors; actual results will vary.

Who works out for only 30 minutes? I'm sure I would be light on the app use but I do check my watch (call me crazy) frequently and the number or emails I get is crazy.

So, yeah, I read all that and my comments, unfortunately, are still sound.
 
'More than reasonable'? I think not.
I was all in until the 18 hr battery life.

What if you take a vacation...wear your watch all day, get on the plane and then when you arrive you have to plug your watch in while you go out sightseeing?

Have you never done an all-nighter at work or school?

Of even if it's not an all-nighter... how about you stay out late at a friend's?
Sure, usually 18 hours will get your through. But don't forget it goes into restricted mode at some point and only functions as a timepiece. Is that at 16 hours?

And what about battery anxiety? Watching the battery run down and it's 8 pm and you're about to go out...do you become afraid to use 'notifications' lest your watch go dead?

Not for me. Not until there is a guarantee of at least 24 hours.

You'd have the same problem with your iPhone anyway.

http://www.apple.com/watch/battery.html

It's 48 hours of just time checking. 72 hours of extra battery life once it hits a specific % of battery life left, not at 18 hours each time.

That's pretty impressive for a smartwatch with an IPS display.

If you want more, check out Pebble Time that can almost a week, which is based on the color e-ink. It won't do as much as Apple Watch but you won't have as much as anxiety issue.

By the way, the more you use your Pebble, it will die quicker as well. My Pebble on certain days of heavy use dies within a day compared to casual and no-bluetooth usage of 4-5 days.
 
See you generation 2 or 3

Good luck beta testers!

I seriously doubt that this watch will be a popular item after the honeymoon period. Apple being the master of smoke and mirrors story telling when it comes to supply and demand, will certainly be up to the task of surrounding the watch with positive hype.

It's a good thing they have a staggering excess of cash. It'll take internal support to keep this product alive. They've got too much skin in the game to let it fail. Apple will pull it off one way or another. It's important for their reputation.
 
Bluetooth earpiece will cost much less. If it/you fall from one of those ladders and damage it, another could be had for peanuts relatively (unlike this watch).

Most building sites do not allow earpieces, ear buds or headphones of any sort as they reduce your abilty to hear instructions or warnings.

If I fall from a ladder, the watch would be the last thing on my mind, personal injury leading to weeks off work will be far more damaging...
 
I wonder if i can record conversations. Like James Bond? Maybe ill get. I do like the bands. also, idk if this will be any different than other smart watches.
 
Umm, I may be wrong but I don't think you get notifications and cannot talk on your iWatch unless it's connected to your iPhone. With Bluetooth that means within a few feet of each other.
So you're still out of luck buddy.

Bluetooth generally has a much better range than "a few feet".
Bluetooth 4.0 has a theoretical limit of up to 200 feet, but realistically you get around 30 feet.

My iPad "rings" anywhere in the house even if I leave my iPhone in my car.
 
Umm, I may be wrong but I don't think you get notifications and cannot talk on your iWatch unless it's connected to your iPhone. With Bluetooth that means within a few feet of each other.
So you're still out of luck buddy.

Bluetooth 4.0 is specced at over 300 feet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy

I use Continuity/Handoff (which also requires the Bluetooth connection) to take phone calls on my Mac downstairs in the office while my iPhone is upstairs in the bedroom. With both doors closed.
 
So you're getting an Apple Watch in 3 years? Have fun waiting :cool:

18 hours is more than reasonable. How many hours a day are you awake? If you sleep just 6 hours, the other 18 hours of the day, you can have the Watch on.

Take it off at night, put it on in the morning. 18 hours is a very comfortable margin for regular use without having to ever worry about the battery.

That's 18 hours new; if the battery is anything like the iPhone, 12 months from now that will be 14 hours and it will die at 15% charge when put under any load. All day use of rechargeable batteries drains them over time. I wonder how much Apple will charge for the luxury of replacing the battery for you... :rolleyes:

I'll stick with the Withings Activite: no charging required and a battery I can buy from any locksmith once a year.

And lastly, battery life matters if you want to do things like track the quality of your sleep.
 
My wife doesn't wear pants or pockets much. She carries her phone in her purse. I'm always frustrated when she's at home and I call her but she doesn't answer because she doesn't carry her purse around everywhere. With the Apple Watch that shouldn't be a problem.

Same goes for music playback. She works out a lot and it's much easier for her to control her music with a device attached to her wrist than having to stop her workout and dig through her purse to change the music on the phone.

A phone is great to have but it isn't the most convenient method for everything. Especially since the whole industry has gone to phones the size of small tablets almost.

You do realize the phone's got to be in proximity for this watch to do much of anything, right. She can't get too far from the phone for this thing to work as a more mobile(?), mobile phone substitute.

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Most building sites do not allow earpieces, ear buds or headphones of any sort as they reduce your abilty to hear instructions or warnings.

Where I live, lots of construction guys wear headphones and ear protection. Nevertheless, I'd have to believe that those same "most building sites" will not allow smart watches too for similarly distracting potentials. I would also think that if you are able to talk on your phone, that would seem to be similarly impeding the ability to hear instructions or warnings (much as it would if you were talking to a watch). And wouldn't a single ear earpiece still leave one ear free- just like talking on a phone- to hear warning or instructions?
 
'More than reasonable'? I think not.
I was all in until the 18 hr battery life.

What if you take a vacation...wear your watch all day, get on the plane and then when you arrive you have to plug your watch in while you go out sightseeing?

Have you never done an all-nighter at work or school?

Of even if it's not an all-nighter... how about you stay out late at a friend's?
Sure, usually 18 hours will get your through. But don't forget it goes into restricted mode at some point and only functions as a timepiece. Is that at 16 hours?

And what about battery anxiety? Watching the battery run down and it's 8 pm and you're about to go out...do you become afraid to use 'notifications' lest your watch go dead?

Not for me. Not until there is a guarantee of at least 24 hours.

Your phone will still work if the watch battery dies ;) If the battery dies, then I guess it dies. It will still tell me the time for a very long time.
 
Okay so we now know pricing :)eek:), we know battery life.. Any word about storage capacity?!
 
You do realize the phone's got to be in proximity for this watch to do much of anything, right. She can't get too far from the phone for this thing to work as a more mobile(?), mobile phone substitute.

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Where I live, lots of construction guys wear headphones and ear protection. Nevertheless, I'd have to believe that those same "most building sites" will not allow smart watches too for similarly distracting potentials. I would also think that if you are able to talk on your phone, that would seem to be similarly impeding the ability to hear instructions or warnings (much as it would if you were talking to a watch). And wouldn't a single ear earpiece still leave one ear free- just like talking on a phone- to hear warning or instructions?

She works out at the gym and at home to workout videos. The phone is in close proximity to her (in her purse) but she'd have to get off the treadmill to get her phone.
 
You do realize the phone's got to be in proximity for this watch to do much of anything, right. She can't get too far from the phone for this thing to work as a more mobile(?), mobile phone substitute.

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Where I live, lots of construction guys wear headphones and ear protection. Nevertheless, I'd have to believe that those same "most building sites" will not allow smart watches too for similarly distracting potentials. I would also think that if you are able to talk on your phone, that would seem to be similarly impeding the ability to hear instructions or warnings (much as it would if you were talking to a watch). And wouldn't a single ear earpiece still leave one ear free- just like talking on a phone- to hear warning or instructions?

Here in the UK, a lot of building sites adhere to the considerate constructors scheme, health and safety is the number one priority on most major building sites around London.

I can say with all certainty that where I live, the majority of major building sites will not allow you to work if you are wearing earphones (ear defenders and ear plugs excluded of course) and will remove you from site if you do not comply.

Talking on a mobile phone is allowed but sometimes restricted to 'safe areas' but this varies site to site.

I don't make up the health and safety rules, I just have to abide by them or I will lose my job.
 
You do realize the phone's got to be in proximity for this watch to do much of anything, right. She can't get too far from the phone for this thing to work as a more mobile(?), mobile phone substitute.

You don't have be close by because it can run off of wifi if the phone is connected to the same network.
 
The most important fact is hidden in the statement that the usage included 90 time checks. This can only mean it will not stay on all the time. So we do not get 18 hours of those beautiful watch faces which are shown in every picture of the watch, but 18 hours of a, mostly, black mini monitor.

So, it is not a watch, it is a computer. Maybe Apple can make it fashionable to wear a computer instead of a watch.
 
So you're getting an Apple Watch in 3 years? Have fun waiting :cool:

18 hours is more than reasonable. How many hours a day are you awake? If you sleep just 6 hours, the other 18 hours of the day, you can have the Watch on.

Take it off at night, put it on in the morning. 18 hours is a very comfortable margin for regular use without having to ever worry about the battery.

You forget people that might what some sort of sleep tracking with the watch.
 
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