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They can claim whatever - battery life of iPhones since 5 is dramatically horrible - 6-7 hours of active usage at most, while Samsung scores up to 8 and Sony (almost leader now) up to 10.

Buy a Samsung or Sony phone and stop worrying about Apple then.

Have you used an iPhone 6? My battery life with my 6 is as good as that any of my friends with Samsung phones. As for Sony, I couldn't say because I've never seen one 'in the wild'.
 
They can claim whatever - battery life of iPhones since 5 is dramatically horrible - 6-7 hours of active usage at most, while Samsung scores up to 8 and Sony (almost leader now) up to 10. And we are talking about constant usage, not stand-by. This is the reason they didn't talk about battery - nowadays its a shame topic for Apple.

For watch usage pattern is different, we will see from actual reports.

BTW, thank you early adopters for beta-testing the first version of Watch for us, so we can buy improved second version next year.

Interesting comments. I rarely have to charge my iPhone6 or 6+. I definitely don't charge it more than once a week, maybe twice.
 
Charge time is just as important to me as battery life. If it only takes 1-2 hours for a full charge, then I could charge quickly and allow my watch to track my sleep.

Of course the absolute ideal would be over-the-air wireless charging like WiTricity. The technological feasibility is nearing.
 
this is a really bad sign for the longevity of the watch. sure, it'll last all day with normal use out of the box. but what about a year from now? as with an iPhone, will you have to take your watch off at noon to charge it to last the rest of the day? by year 2 of owning the watch...?

this seems to be a major impediment to buying an apple watch.

If the battery isn't easily replaceable, then I think you've got a point and this watch will be useless in two years. I'm going to guess though that Apple has figured this out and that you will be able to hand this in and have the battery replaced for $50. Maybe you do that once during the ownership cycle. Everyone should replace their iPhone batteries every two years as well. It makes a big difference.
 
Apple never said the battery couldn't be replaced. And what evidence do you have that the battery will degrade that much in one year?

sure, for $75 or whatever they charge for a new iPhone battery. still a far cry from the $4 battery replacement for a normal watch. and they haven't yet said what a battery replacement option would be, if any. at best we can expect to have to pay a substantial about to swap out a battery given their current iPhone battery replacement charge.

evidence of battery degradation being typical battery life: any existing computing battery apple or other manufacturer. They all drop off after at least a year. And if we're starting with a baseline of 5hrs/1day, in a year...maybe 2...what can we realistically expect? needing to charge a watch halfway through the day will be extremely unappealing.

apple tends to create sea changes for how people use devices, but i don't think people are expecting to have to constantly charge a watch when they currently never do.
 
Yet another device to put on charge overnight. Another device that you could look at that will be dead on your wrist.

The only thing that would make it viable is if there was a "dock" of sorts to lay your watch into to charge it when not in use. I don't want to be plugging in a watch like I plug in my phone and Macbook every day.

If only there were some sort of dock to make it easy to charge... :p

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Hey, Apple is the one telling us how awesome the device will be to use with all of the applications that will be available for it. They demonstrated a device with tons of apps.

So now you're saying Apple doesn't want us using the watch as intended?

Justify it all you want, 5 hours of heavy usage is not good. Especially with other options out there that will easily last the whole day with heavy usage.

Sure it is. 5 hours of heavy usage is perfectly fine for a first gen device like this one. Nobody even knows exactly how they'll use this watch yet.

Lasts about as long as the battery on the original iPhone for heavy use.

And, look how far iPhone has come as a product.

I bet some people will charge these watches at their desks if they know they'll be sitting for extended periods. Just like people do with phones. I mean, if they really start to see that they're running out of battery before bed.

Which, for most people, probably won't happen.
 
I'm not surprised. it took Apple until the iPhone 6 Plus to upgrade the battery to a decent 2,915 mAh which still is horrible compared to the 3,200mAh on the Galaxy Note 4 and 3,000mAh on LG G3...etc. Android wear smartwatches come with 300-400 mAh and last up to 2-3 days depending on usage. My ASUS Zenwatch lasts 3 days. My Michael Bastian Cronowing smartwatch lasts up a week and a half long of battery life. 5 hours of battery life on heavy usage is what 80% of users will using. With the newly announced LG Watch Urbane with 300 mAh and Huawei Watch with 400 mAh, they will truly outshine Apple watch as Android smartphones have performed circles on iPhones since 2010 and will continue to do so unless Apple wakes up and actually innovates.

How is it possible that you can have so much wrong in one little paragraph?
 
Also, don't forget, the battery life will be programmed to get worse day by day. So that we all look forward to buying Apple Watch 2.

Exactly! Luckily, I don't have to charge my tin foil hat every night. :D
 
Why does going on a hike mean I wouldn't have reception? At least in the UK, a lot of rural places can still have a good 3G signal.

Anyway, there are a myriad of reasons why people wouldn't want to recharge their watch every night. Just because recharging it will work fine for you doesn't mean it's not a valid reason for another person to pass on buying it.

Maybe it's different in the UK (a much smaller, more concentrated area), but I rarely have reception whenever I go camping. Personally I'd wear a more sturdy, outdoor watch.

People will get over charging it daily. They similarly balked at charging their phones nightly when their dumbphones used to last them for days at a time.
 
I bet some people will charge these watches at their desks if they know they'll be sitting for extended periods. Just like people do with phones. I mean, if they really start to see that they're running out of battery before bed.

So, you're thinking people will take the watch off the wrists when they're at their desks to charge it?

Geez, people sure do have to be understanding with this product, don't they? Sounds like quite a bother for $350, to be honest.
 
What happens after 1 year (~400 charge cycles), when the battery will no long hold a charge? There's been no mention of that.

I'm guessing battery is replaced. It might not be easily user accessible, but I bet it isn't going to be as hard to replace the battery on the watch as it is on the iPhone.
That HAS to be the solution on the Edition watch. That watch can't sell for $5,000 and be unable to make it through the day with light usage in a year and a half.
 
So are people intentionally being obtuse? 5 hours of HEAVY USE is not 5 hours battery life. :rolleyes: The fact that original rumors pegged this at 2.5 hours say to me that battery life is going to be better than expected.

Well, the expectations were crap to begin with, so this is nothing to be super excited about. lol. I'm just glad I don't want one and never did, because it seems pretty underwhelming, in general. Nothing about it says, "I want to have this", let alone, "I NEED to have this."
 
If you sit and fiddle with your watch for 5 hours in a day, you need to take it off your wrist and beat the #$#% out of yourself with it because you have no life.

This is great news, should be more than enough juice to get normal people through the day. I don't sleep with my watches on either so tossing it on a charger isn't a big deal.

Really looking forward to this. I own 12 watches, most in the 200-$400 range...I like them as time pieces and for the style, so buying an Apple watch is a no brainer for me considering it does so much more than a normal watch.
 
apple tends to create sea changes for how people use devices, but i don't think people are expecting to have to constantly charge a watch when they currently never do.

They may have been better off naming it something other than "watch" to avoid the comparisons. In any event, the only thing that this device shares with any watch that came before it is the name and timekeeping.

Most commenters have forgotten the fact that the target audience for this device are people that probably don't wear a watch anyway (I.E. <30 yrs crowd). There isn't going to be some huge shock to people that have never worn a watch and/or have a thirst for new technology.
 
If you sit and fiddle with your watch for 5 hours in a day, you need to take it off your wrist and beat the #$#% out of yourself with it because you have no life.

So now people that want to use their watch for more than 5 hours a day have no life?

Wow, the excuses people come up with here for substandard battery life is amazing. Anything for Apple. :apple:
 
So, you're thinking people will take the watch off the wrists when they're at their desks to charge it?

Geez, people sure do have to be understanding with this product, don't they? Sounds like quite a bother for $350, to be honest.

Yes. I'm saying that some people will do that. I remember having to obsessively charge my iPhones up through the 3GS every time I was in a large city on business because the endless tower searching would DRAIN the battery. It got better with the 4 and was no longer a huge issue.

I don't see why not, with watch bands that are easy to remove, a person might not just top off their watch battery IF they start seeing that it won't last them though the day.

That's IF. I really do think that for most humans, the battery life for daily use will be fine.
 
Battery life is a deal breaker for many people, yet i don't understand what people will be doing on their watch during "Extensive use".. It's a watch supposed to mirror notifications, make certain tasks easier, it's not a phone replacement, not a media hub or a gaming console. Under moderate use it should last longer than just one day.
 
5 hours of heavy usage sounds phenomenal to me. iPhone and Android rarely see that much screen on time with the exception of iPhone 6 Plus and ONEPLUS One. The moto360 I have gets a couple hours of screen on time at best.
 
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