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As silly as it sounds, Apple could better move into the high-end market simply by quadrupling the price tag for no reason other than to make rich people feel good about needlessly spending a ton of money.

Quadrupling the price doesn't even put it close to "rich people territory". Even a multiplication by 10 puts it only at the very bottom of the high end market.

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So an Apple Watch has been controlling dead maus this whole time?

Yeah and Skrillex too, but they were broken prototypes and no-one noticed.
 
Apple could better move into the high-end market simply by quadrupling the price tag for no reason other than to make rich people feel good about needlessly spending a ton of money.

That's what the gold version is for. ;) :D
 
Waste of Money

STARTING at $350 for a device that is totally dependent on an even more expensive device to function? What bs is this?

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If only the Moto360 had a newer chipset inside, it'd be perfect.
 
Moto 360 looks 1000x better than this, this looks chunky and bulky. Come on apple, you usually have the design of products down?
 
Moto 360 looks 1000x better than this, this looks chunky and bulky. Come on apple, you usually have the design of products down?

Have you seen the Moto in real life shots? It looks like tin-foil put into a watch. I must prefer Apple's take on it, at this point.
 
I was waiting for this watch 2 years. The day after it revealed I bought a rolex submariner instead.
 
Moto 360 looks 1000x better than this, this looks chunky and bulky. Come on apple, you usually have the design of products down?

Its smaller and of much better build, fit and design, says EVERYONE who has seen both in real life.

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STARTING at $350 for a device that is totally dependent on an even more expensive device to function? What bs is this?

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If only the Moto360 had a newer chipset inside, it'd be perfect.

It runs indepedent applications, collects data through various sensors (including heart, accelerator, etc). Data of all kind can sync back and forth between watch apps and phone (so available when not connected). It plays music and displays photos (and probably plays videos too).

It has a better screen, a better soc, a better build than other watches. Apple ARM SOC are more efficient, so it is probable that it would have a better battery life. It has two different imput methods not seen on other watches. People who have actually seen it and handle it said that it feels and looks better and more solid than other watches. It charges in a different way than other watches.

Finally, it does MORE than the moto 360 in a smaller package.

So, where does you FUD comes from exactly. Pullet straight from the air. When this sells 10M+ copies, including 1M of the two more expensive model, will you come here and lament this "failure".

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The orb doesn't hide the fact it looks like a fat, ugly, iPhone 1.

Hopefully version 2, which will promptly be released for the next holiday season, will be better looking and useful.

:confused:

Yeah, and we all know how much the original Iphone was a total failure... :rolleyes:

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Only available you can do this show off in Paris....


i mean the Mac, iPhone, iPad is all fashion to some extent too, but their not marketed as such.

This is the first product yet to be released that Apple IS doing it, and everyone agrees. Which tells me, Apple has clearly flipped its lid, and going in a different direction.. :p

The ride has been fun, but its time to get off.

Man, another drama queen...

Design and fashion ARE part of the same continuum; they always have been. Thinking that they are different is your problem, not Apples.

You do know that a watch is a wearable, that something nicely designed that you wear is by definition, something fashionable. It always has been.

If Apple and the people who buy its phones didn't care how its product looked they'd make something like Samsung phones.

Fashion is about projecting who you are into the world. It is about identity and how you want others to see you. It is something quite hard to do and if Apple does it well, they'll be the first tech firm to do it.
 
Its smaller and of much better build, fit and design, says EVERYONE who has seen both in real life.

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It runs indepedent applications, collects data through various sensors (including heart, accelerator, etc). Data of all kind can sync back and forth between watch apps and phone (so available when not connected). It plays music and displays photos (and probably plays videos too).

It has a better screen, a better soc, a better build than other watches. Apple ARM SOC are more efficient, so it is probable that it would have a better battery life. It has two different imput methods not seen on other watches. People who have actually seen it and handle it said that it feels and looks better and more solid than other watches. It charges in a different way than other watches.

Finally, it does MORE than the moto 360 in a smaller package.

So, where does you FUD comes from exactly. Pullet straight from the air. When this sells 10M+ copies, including 1M of the two more expensive model, will you come here and lament this "failure".

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Yeah, and we all know how much the original Iphone was a total failure... :rolleyes:

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Man, another drama queen...



Design and fashion ARE part of the same continuum; they always have been. Thinking that they are different is your problem, not Apples.



You do know that a watch is a wearable, that something nicely designed that you wear is by definition, something fashionable. It always has been.



If Apple and the people who buy its phones didn't care how its product looked they'd make something like Samsung phones.



Fashion is about projecting who you are into the world. It is about identity and how you want others to see you. It is something quite hard to do and if Apple does it well, they'll be the first tech firm to do it.


I love the apple watch and will buy one but come on... Displaying photos and video is not a feature on this watch.
 
What sort of company doesn't notice software bugs?

A jewelry company.

Is Google a jewelry company, some people are waiting for bug fixes for months to years from them... While Apple is bitched out if they don't solve bugs within 3h...

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I love the apple watch and will buy one but come on... Displaying photos and video is not a feature on this watch.

If you go on the web site, photos seemingly are a feature, photos drain the battery less than playing mp3 and this is also a feature, so that would be logical.

Videos are not there but I don't see why they would prevent you from watching a video if you absolutely want too, the hardware can certainly do it (of course, your battery won't last long if you do that, but it is easy to recharge ;-).
 
Is Google a jewelry company, some people are waiting for bug fixes for months to years from them... While Apple is bitched out if they don't solve bugs within 3h...

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If you go on the web site, photos seemingly are a feature, photos drain the battery less than playing mp3 and this is also a feature, so that would be logical.



Videos are not there but I don't see why they would prevent you from watching a video if you absolutely want too, the hardware can certainly do it (of course, your battery won't last long if you do that, but it is easy to recharge ;-).


I'm saying they aren't really great desirable features.
Having features nobody wants is what Samsung does.
It doesn't work in my opinion in validating one product over another.
 
Don't like the move because when design becomes more important than technology we may see a stand still in technological process. Until now Apple managed to balance the two.

The thing is, smartwatches is an area where you just can't expect miracles at this point. The physical format, the size of the device will always makes its usefulness limited , until some revolutionary technology comes, like 3d holographic screen that can project a higher visual surface than the tiny screen of the watch.

Apple is forced to go into the smartwatch market, because everyone of its competitors does. So how can they differentiate when you can do so little ( at this point in time ) with it technologically ? Design.

Watches are very different from phones, computers, Tv setup boxes, etc.. None of those devices are considered a piece of jewelry. Watches on the other hand have always been considered jewelry first, tech device second.

Personaly I will not buy the Apple Watch. I hate digital watches, I like my watches old-fashioned, and I hate having to worry about the battery everyday. And yet I think Apple did overall a good job on their watch. It's filled with nice little touches on the software side , and from the photos , seems to have quality hardware and design. I think it will sell, for the people who are open to such devices and ready to put up with its limitations.

But I think it's foolish to expect anything but a limited usefulness whether it's from Apple or anyone else. Not until some radical screen and battery technology appears on the market.
 
Have you seen the Moto in real life shots? It looks like tin-foil put into a watch. I must prefer Apple's take on it, at this point.
To be honest the Apple Watch looks a lot different in real life than the renders from the presentation too.
 
Clever use of the sphere to hide how thick the device is.

I guess that's planned to hide it.

They take a sphere, cut off the front, then set the watch back inside the sphere to a point where if you try and look sideways to see the thickness of the watch you can't as the edge of the sphere blocks your view.

A little bit of Auto Cad to work out the angles to hide the thickness of the device from the viewer no matter how hard they try and look.

Clever :)
 
Apple marketing is amazing,



Although I prefer the MOTO 360 face, I think the apple watch will do great


I'm convinced you will think it's too large when you try it on.
It's 46mm with a thin bezel.

In watch terms, that is a territory occupied by the likes of Invictas, Diesel, and other trashy watches, which will populate many landfills.
 
No it isn't.
What is the high-end watch you own?
I bought a Patek Philippe Calatrava and a Breguet watch last year.

Many high-end watch owners wear Rolexes as their beaters.

After owning watches from high-end manufacturers, you realize that Rolex offers something that is of course not high end but it has its own place.

You said exactly what I said. I don't own any high end watches, but friends who do equate Rolex to Bose. The general public perceives Rolex (and Bose) as high end products. But people in the know, true enthusiasts, realize that they are not. But both have their place.
 
You said exactly what I said. I don't own any high end watches, but friends who do equate Rolex to Bose. The general public perceives Rolex (and Bose) as high end products. But people in the know, true enthusiasts, realize that they are not. But both have their place.


No, your analogy is wrong because Bose has no merits.

I am a high end watch owner and I know many who have much better watches than I do.
They don't think of rolex as a worthless brand with no merit.

Rolex is the best at what they do--create robust uncompromising sport watches that will work as long as you live.

Just because it isn't high end or "the best," doesn't mean it is like BOSE (which is crap, or so I hear from audiophiles...)
 
To be honest the Apple Watch looks a lot different in real life than the renders from the presentation too.

Definitely, I agree with you there. For me personally, in actual photos it looks pretty sleek and the promo images are a discredit to it. With the Moto it's the opposite, though - I was actually shocked when I saw the actual photos of it.
 
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