Apple Watch Fulfills Promise of All-Day Battery Life in Early Reviews

[laurim]

They were polished stainless steel through the 4th generation, and switched to aluminum for the 5th gen.

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Lol. Ok. Are you a watch collector? Do you know anything about the hobby first hand? Rolexes are actually one of the, if not the most solid "investments" in watches. Hold their value better than most if not all. Especially the stainless steel models. Now no one should be buying watches for "investment" anyway, I certainly don't. I buy and collect them because I enjoy them.

Yes, I edited my post a little. BUT, I'm still correct that watches don't appreciate like that person tried to claim.

No, I don't collect ANY expensive jewelry at all. This AppleWatch will be the closest thing I will own to luxury jewelry and I only want it because it does more than look pretty. I'm not the kind of woman to have expensive things just for show that don't have any real utility. I own zero diamonds and only one real gold necklace that I bought in Venice, so it has memories for me.

So, if Rolexes are mechanically powered, how does our increasingly sedentary lifestyle keep it charged?
or since it only tells time and maybe the date, it doesn't need that much power? Or do you have to manually wind it sometimes? Just curious. I honestly don't know anyone with one to ask.

 

[BlueMoon63]

Yes, I edited my post a little. BUT, I'm still correct that watches don't appreciate like that person tried to claim.

No, I don't collect ANY expensive jewelry at all. This AppleWatch will be the closest thing I will own to luxury jewelry and I only want it because it does more than look pretty. I'm not the kind of woman to have expensive things just for show that don't have any real utility. I own zero diamonds and only one real gold necklace that I bought in Venice, so it has memories for me.

You live in Minnesota so you have class... period! I work in downtown Mpls but work from home 99% of the time. The Apple Watch is a great value to me right now for $650. I wanted the Space Gray SS with space gray link band but I do not believe it is worth $1100... just my opinion. As a watch alone, I would pay $350-$400 for the SS watch... with or without a band. First gen Apple Watch... love it. Will work as a watch hopefully for 10 years or so... about the same life as my Seiko Kinetic watches of the previous 3.

It's just not for most people here and will sell only 10-20 million in 12 months but not to most here.

 

[chris975d]

Yes, I edited my post a little. BUT, I'm still correct that watches don't appreciate like that person tried to claim.



No, I don't collect ANY expensive jewelry at all. This AppleWatch will be the closest thing I will own to luxury jewelry and I only want it because it does more than look pretty. I'm not the kind of woman to have expensive things just for show that don't have any real utility. I own zero diamonds and only one real gold necklace that I bought in Venice, so it has memories for me.

Which poster? Me? If so, I can show you all day long at how stainless steel Rolexes have appreciated over the years. Not that it has anything to do with this thread. What other watch mass produced watch manufacturer can sell a watch for $180 in the early '60s and they fetch $10,000 - $30,000 routinely today? Depending on condition and specific version. Talking about the Rolex Submariner here. Or one bought just 10 years ago, that even beat up will fetch more than the original selling price today when sold used.

 

[kdarling]

Ever seen what an old original Apple product goes for at auction? There's a reason I said Gen 1.

It's possible with something super rare like the Apple I, with only a couple of hundred made, and many destroyed upon upgrading to the II.

But that's a heckuva lot different from something like a mass produced watch that is bought in the millions.

 

[bwillwall]

Just finished watching the Verge review. In a nutshell....it's useless and nothing more than a toy.

Even fashion experts dismissed it and the most useful feature.....Apple Pay....which you have on your iPhone 6, so it's a $350 extension to this.

19 likes for this one. #MacRumorsUsers

 

[Traverse]

I think the iPod touches were polished chrome, not SS.

I know, but I can't help remembering how easy they scratched and it makes me fearful for the Apple watch.

They ARE different metals, but I don't want the Watch to end up looking like the iPod touch did.

 

[mentaluproar]

Just finished watching the Verge review. In a nutshell....it's useless and nothing more than a toy.

The entire industry said the same thing about the iPad.

 

[chris975d]

It's possible with something super rare like the Apple I, with only a couple of hundred made, and many destroyed upon upgrading to the II.

But that's a heckuva lot different from something like a mass produced watch that is bought in the millions.

You can look at the selling prices of the Apple I (low numbers, rare) and the first gen iPhone(not low numbers, not rare) to get an example of what you're talking about.

 

[laurim]

Which poster? Me? If so, I can show you all day long at how stainless steel Rolexes have appreciated over the years. Not that it has anything to do with this thread. What other watch mass produced watch manufacturer can sell a watch for $180 in the early '60s and they fetch $10,000 - $30,000 routinely today? Depending on condition and specific version. Talking about the Rolex Submariner here. Or one bought just 10 years ago, that even beat up will fetch more than the original selling price today when sold used.

Did you go back to my post and look at the article I linked to? You might quibble with what they said but they are not the only one to say the vast majority of luxury watches DON'T appreciate in value. You can't really try to compare a 50+ year old antique watch to the AppleWatch. I don't know why people are even bringing up those much more expensive watches unless they are considering whether to buy the Edition version. The tiny number of people buying that one don't care about resale.

 

[chris975d]

Did you go back to my post and look at the article I linked to? You might quibble with what they said but they are not the only one to say the vast majority of luxury watches DON'T appreciate in value. You can't really try to compare a 50+ year old antique watch to the AppleWatch. I don't know why people are even bringing up those much more expensive watches unless they are considering whether to buy the Edition version. The tiny number of people buying that one don't care about resale.

The vast majority, no. But the "vast majority" is made up of relatively cheap watches (relative to the Rolexes, Pateks, etc) at $3000 or so and under. No, those would not be heirloom pieces no matter what. So the "vast majority" is correct.

And people bring up the the expensive watches relative to the Edition because they are competitors, at least in price. I myself considered one...briefly. But I realized it wouldn't displace any of my Rolexes (they are more fun to wear), so I decided against it.

 

[AFDoc]

Just finished watching the Verge review. In a nutshell....it's useless and nothing more than a toy.

Even fashion experts dismissed it and the most useful feature.....Apple Pay....which you have on your iPhone 6, so it's a $350 extension to this.

LoL at you and those that think like you!!! I'm getting it because of what it can do for me NOT what some "tech" person says. Will it track certain health aspects? Yep. Will it show me notifications on my wrist? Yep. Will it do little cutesy things my wife is excited about? Yep........

So don't you worry your little head about others getting the watch..... we're getting it for what it can do for us not others perceptions of what it can't do.

 

[dtich]

All Apple devices start off with great battery life. Then after hundreds of re-chargings and 2-3 years of use, your battery life expectency slips.

I'd hate to spend big bucks on one of these and have crappy battery life after 1-2 years of daily use.

i'm sorry -- all 'apple' devices..??? how about ALL devices with a battery. this is how they ALL work. it's called physics, it's called thermodynamic properties, it's called science. it's not just apple. if anything, apple is pretty great at maximizing battery life through their charging algorithms. ...gawd it's so exhausting dealing with numbnuts that just like to slam apple.

and all this bs about how biased macrumors is, and all the reviewers are fanboys, is totally unfounded and un-supported by the reviews themselves -- did any of you making these comments even read them?? i read them all and there are many, many mentions of less than gushing aspects, some are even overly critical in what can only seem to be an attempt at comedy (?), but they all mention things they like and things they don't and they all seem to have been pretty unbiased in their approach to the reviews. and macrumors' headlines are perfectly justified as basically all the reviewers agreed on those points. so.

gee it would be nice if we could have straight discussions rather than dig through such ridiculous postings all the time....

(i realize a lot of this comment isn't actually in response to the quoted post.. it just worked out that way.)

 

[AFDoc]

The Samsung gear live scores a 6.8 and that's considered to be one of the lowest ranked wear watches. After that it's 6.6 for the LG G watch only because it's a boring design.
The moto 360 scores a 8.1 and the asus zen a 7.9. Factor in the price difference of $100 (minimum) the Apple watch is a flop. But I have no doubt that it will initially sale because it's a Apple product. Apple has a loyal following.

A flop that will sell millions...... Man I wish I could have such flops all the time!!

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people see what they want to see...and then repeat it...blindly...without a shred of first hand knowledge. I love how people take SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION and treat it as gold. Hey, why not try it and form your OWN DAMN OPINION. Seriously. Lazy ass people

What? take personal responsibility for a decision? Nooooooo.....

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Unless you work exclusively off your phone, I really wonder how much actual work you do while at work to be able to drain an iPhone 6+ by the end of your work day

LOL classic catch!!

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Sorry, but that is one hell of a giant thick chunky lump strapped to her wrist.
Do women today really want something that big strapped onto their wrists?

So BIG and heavy, it's even hanging down on her arm.

Looks horrid, way too BIG:

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Ok don't get one... Your non problem solved. You're welcome.

Perhaps unlike you, what with your allowance and all not being raised even though you graduated from the 10th grade with mostly As and Bs, some of us can actually afford a $500 or $1000 toy. In fact, maybe I have a $35,000 toy in my driveway too, only used on weekends in nice weather. And really, an iPhone is mostly a toy for most people as they actually use it. Who is to say a "toy" is not worth its price? Only someone who can't afford it. Why do you care what I pay for my toys? (OK, hypothetical, since I don't plan to by an Apple Watch at the moment, but if I wanted one I'd buy it and not care that much about it being more than a Pebble or costing nearly what a base iPhone costs).

Sooooo I see you're trying to use logic in your argument...... don't do that it confuses most on MR.

My worry is what it says about you.

If I saw you wearing THAT watch I'd think positive things, nice to talk to.

If I saw you with the Apple watch, I'd probably instantly think. God I bet she's an utter pain, needing to keep updated on her social media every few seconds, can't stand to have any nice quiet time.

Perhaps wrongly, but that's the initial impression.

So you're telling us you're a judgmental jerk? Cool thanks!

I have no doubt that the Apple watch will sale; it's a Apple product. It's been 5 years since Apple came out with something totally different and not a rehash of a Steve Jobs idea. People that love Apple have money to throw at a half baked product with the word Apple on it.
And that brings me to my use of the word "flop". It won't flop in sales (at least for the first 6 months); it will flop because it's a complicated expensive mess with battery life that you will have to nurse throughout the day. Just wait until you see the forums fill with disappointed customers. That's what I mean by flop.
Just because McDonalds sales the most hamburgers doesn't make them the best tasting hamburger. That's the Apple watch, millions served but the experience is crap.

You tried one out? SO you know all you said is true right? No. You listened to what others said about a product instead of trying on for yourself..... Don't be that person.

 

[cdm283813]

what do YOU consider a flop? reviews or sales numbers? Because last time I checked, Apple had BILLION of DOLLARS, not good or bad reviews..I love how you think you know Apples profit margin and profitability percentages. Its already a success because it 1) spike interest in Apple 2) created another niche industry in app development 3) created a resurgence in competition in the smart watch market. They upped the ante

so...explain again how you think its a flop?

I have no doubt that the Apple watch will sale; it's a Apple product. It's been 5 years since Apple came out with something totally different and not a rehash of a Steve Jobs idea. People that love Apple have money to throw at a half baked product with the word Apple on it.
And that brings me to my use of the word "flop". It won't flop in sales (at least for the first 6 months); it will flop because it's a complicated expensive mess with battery life that you will have to nurse throughout the day. Just wait until you see the forums fill with disappointed customers. That's what I mean by flop.
Just because McDonalds sales the most hamburgers doesn't make them the best tasting hamburger. That's the Apple watch, millions served but the experience is crap.

 

[Gameboy70]

Sorry, but that is one hell of a giant thick chunky lump strapped to her wrist.
Do women today really want something that big strapped onto their wrists?

So BIG and heavy, it's even hanging down on her arm.

Looks horrid, way too BIG:

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Joanna probably didn't have the luxury of choosing which size review unit she got. I doubt that Apple sent any reviewer a 38mm.

 

[dtich]

I have no doubt that the Apple watch will sale; it's a Apple product. It's been 5 years since Apple came out with something totally different and not a rehash of a Steve Jobs idea. People that love Apple have money to throw at a half baked product with the word Apple on it.
And that brings me to my use of the word "flop". It won't flop in sales (at least for the first 6 months); it will flop because it's a complicated expensive mess with battery life that you will have to nurse throughout the day. Just wait until you see the forums fill with disappointed customers. That's what I mean by flop.
Just because McDonalds sales the most hamburgers doesn't make them the best tasting hamburger. That's the Apple watch, millions served but the experience is crap.

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT??? these are not bad reviews. these are generally superlative reviews. the verge guy should perhaps have taken a bit less of his week to film his epic video review and spent that time learning to use the ****** watch. he said too many notifications, and also said too many options for turning notifications off! lol. well my friend, you done tripped right over the answer to all you problems. a little less steven spielberg video reviewing, a little more.. reviewing.... and the woman in the shower was just trying to be funny. that wasn't a serious review at all. so. thanks for all the entertainment. but. not. in general, these reviews were balanced, noting both good and bad things, and intelligent. and in general they were superlative. it means comments of character of the highest level. it means they think it's probably a game-changer. maybe not for everyone, but what is for everyone. and maybe there are many things to be bettered in v2.. well, yeah. that's how things work. they get as good as they can for launch. they launch. they take their punches. and then they get better. don't tell me you were born yesterday and don't understand this about the tech world. sheesh. buncha children.

 

[brig2221]

What exactly do you think you'll be doing actively on your watch all day that will kill it?

Exactly, and what are you doing on your phone to kill an iPhone 6+'battery in less than a day. Matters not tome what it is, only that every single thing I've ever heard about a 6+ is that it cannot be killed in a day.

That said, even if you do kill a 6+ legitimately in a day, why would that matter as to how you would use an Apple Watch?

 

[iZac]

The battery is replaceable like a traditional watch.

Unfortunately it's not going to be $5 and 5 minutes at the local watch repair shop though.

That polished stainless steel....

I know it's "advanced" and "hardened," but all I can think about is the old iPod touches!

Watching the Verge video review you can already see how funky the thing got after a week of use. I'm not sure if its scuffing or smudging, but that polished case isn't going to age well.

[SARCASM] I cant wait until we get Apple watch cases! [/SARCASM]

 

[Keirasplace]

Apple battery lifespans are listed in the single digit times. Seriously.




So less than 9 hours for many things, and 1.5 to 2.5 hours to charge it.

And Apple is the only source for batteries and replacements.

I'm not feeling the utility of this, especially if the battery life is like car MPG ratings. The thought of having to charge it multiple times in the day kinda bonks...

Right... And how the hell long does you phone last if you use it constantly , especially with the screen on; yet, somehow most people's phones "surprisingly" don't run out by the of the day. Please tell this little tidbit of info please. I'll be waiting for this with baited breadth.

BTW, I'm betting they'll be non Apple batteries for this thing as soon it launches.

Right now, It costs me $30 bucks to get someone else put a new battery in my Iphone (disassemble it and replace the battery, yes, a NON Apple battery, since the very first phone and all subsequent phone). Opening this up looks simpler and the batteries are much smaller. So, I'd be surprised if it costs more than $15-20 for me to get it replaced.

Considering the battery in this should last at least 2 years if your average day finishes with 20-30%. How is spending less than $20 dollars every 2 years going to put you in the poor house?

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Unfortunately it's not going to be $5 and 5 minutes at the local watch repair shop though.
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So what? Its not a $5 watch, so why should I care if its $15-20 once every year (or two years) (I only costs me $30 dollars to get someone else replace my Iphone battery). There 5 stores in my city that does it, and at least a hundred freelancer that advertising that they do it within a 20 mile radius...

If you need to replace it after one year, you used it A LOT, so I'm guessing you won't mind paying that money.

 

[BlueMoon63]

... it will flop because it's a complicated expensive mess with battery life that you will have to nurse throughout the day.

Quote:
"After more than a week of daily use, Apple Watch has more than alleviated any concerns I had about getting through a day on a single charge. I noted the remaining charge when I went to bed each night. It was usually still in the 30s or 40s. Once it was still over 50 percent charged. Once, it was down to 27. And one day -- last Thursday -- it was all the way down to 5 percent. But that day was an exception -- I used the watch for an extraordinary amount of testing, nothing at all resembling typical usage. I'm surprised the watch had any remaining charge at all that day. I never once charged the watch other than while I slept."

 

[Robstevo]

I think I through up a little bit when I saw murdoch on that video.

Horrible human being.

Good news about the battery life, although I;m gonna wait until it's 3 days, Charging the phone, laptop, tablet and watch....to much of a pain.

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also kind of interesting multple reviews have said and shown the interface as being too complicated...I mean constantly zooming around to find an app and try and make it big enough to touch...what a horrible method.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

It seems like the exact same maintenance as an iPhone to me. Except it charges much faster.

My 6+ runs for DAYS, nearly a week. Actually I think actually runs for a week. I use it every day. and spend a lot of time surfing, and reading iBooks.

Sounds like my iPhone lasts a lot longer than the Apple Watch.

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IF? As in, you are just guessing?

'Heavy users' are going to be disappointed, I predict... Having to charge it multiple times is not going to go over well.

 

[Keirasplace]

I think I through up a little bit when I saw murdoch on that video.

Horrible human being.

Good news about the battery life, although I;m gonna wait until it's 3 days, Charging the phone, laptop, tablet and watch....to much of a pain.

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also kind of interesting multple reviews have said and shown the interface as being too complicated...I mean constantly zooming around to find an app and try and make it big enough to touch...what a horrible method.

You won't get 3 days unless you :
- Wait till battery tech improves a lot (4-5 years!)
- Buy a watch 40-100% bigger watch with a more efficient SOC and screen (2-3 years)
- Wait till SOC and screen tech improves A LOT (5-6 years).
- Wait for both battery tech and SOC and screen efficiency improve, most probably solution without increasing the device size (3-4 years).

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Right... And how the hell long does you phone last if you use it constantly , especially with the screen on; yet, somehow most people's phones "surprisingly" don't run out by the of the day. Please tell this little tidbit of info please. I'll be waiting for this with baited breadth.

BTW, I'm betting they'll be non Apple batteries for this thing as soon it launches.

Right now, It costs me $30 bucks to get someone else put a new battery in my Iphone (disassemble it and replace the battery, yes, a NON Apple battery, since the very first phone and all subsequent phone). Opening this up looks simpler and the batteries are much smaller. So, I'd be surprised if it costs more than $15-20 for me to get it replaced.

Considering the battery in this should last at least 2 years if your average day finishes with 20-30%. How is spending less than $20 dollars every 2 years going to put you in the poor house?

When I hooked our server up to push emails to my iPhone, the battery lasted about two days. When I realized that those emails included ALL spam and junk emails due to a bug (feature) of Exchange, I disconnected that, and the battery life practically tripled.

I charge my 6+ about ever week or so.

Sure, I *could* charge it more often, but why.

The thought of having an Apple Watch that I would have to carry a charge puck for, or a separate external battery to 'jump start' it, and keep it running through the day sounds obnoxious...

I'd rather not have something that was such high maintenance.

Now, with the 'New Apple' that is apparently coming, how will they take it if they open your Apple Watch for maintenance, and find a third party battery in it. Has iFixit done a tear down of the Apple Watch yet? I predict the Apple Watch to be the least repairable device Apple has ever made. Why would it be easy to open and service it?

Consider, charging the Apple Watch twice, which is generous, a week and you have the Watch being charged 104 times, and probably more, in a year. Let's say 110 cycles a year. That's a lot of time charging.

I'm just concerned that it looks like a typical first generation product. Under engineered, and under powered.

I could be wrong, but I have a pebble sitting on my desk that needed to be charged more than once a day. It was given to me, rather than being thrown out. I don't think I want to try it. It sounds like it'll spend far to much time on the charger than on my wrist.

But anyway...

If you want an Apple Watch, then by all means buy one. Enjoy it or not.

On some level, I'm envious (It's the Mickey face, dammit, there I said it) but I have too many devices that use the Ant+ protocol for their sensors, and the Apple Watch doesn't do Ant+.

*SIGH*

I will have to 'roll my own' I guess. Will have to learn Monkey C...

 

[Keirasplace]

Consider, charging the Apple Watch twice, which is generous, a week and you have the Watch being charged 104 times, and probably more, in a year. Let's say 110 cycles a year. That's a lot of time charging.


On some level, I'm envious (It's the Mickey face, dammit, there I said it) but I have too many devices that use the Ant+ protocol for their sensors, and the Apple Watch doesn't do Ant+.
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Wow, you sure have an active imagination bud! Unless your obsessed with your watch (or a reviewer), it would easily last the day; the whole point of dozens of reviews, which you seemingly all skipped!

As for under-engineered, you must be kidding. Don't think you have a inkling about engineering or you wouldn't say something so preposterous.

BTW, 110 times is not a lot at all. Battery can go to 70% of initial charge in up to 400-500 full charge cycles. If they're not fully charged (charging at 20-30% average like many reviewers) this can go to about 800-1000 charge cycles (this is standard for all batteries). Apple said the battery is made to last on average 3 years if recharged each day : about 1000 charge cycles to get to 70%.