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What a horrible piece of advice. A dog needs more than daily walks--it needs love, attention, to be fed, watered, groomed, de-fleaed, given room to run, vet check-ups, and let's not forget that those walks include scooping up dog poop (don't have to do that with the watch). The dog should also be trained. Few dogs come well trained and it takes time and effort and patience to make sure they don't pull, growl, bark all night, get into fights with other dogs, etc.

A dog, in short, is far more of an investment than a gadget.

I'm now imagining people buying dogs, keeping them locked up all day except when taken out for walks because the dog was just gotten to motivate the owner to take those daily walks/runs, not because the owner wanted to give that dog a good life. And when the owner realizes that unlike a gadget the dog demands upwards of ten years of time, money, attention? That's a dog who will end up abandoned or in the pound.

If all someone is after is a motivator to exercise, than better they should be addicted to another gadget. As healthy as you think a dog is, it's irresponsible to advise people to get one for that reason alone. A gadget can't be harmed by a neglectful, selfish person who wants it only for one purpose. A dog can be.

Bee in your bonnet much?

His advice was sound. Dog is man's best friend. Far better to get one of those living, friendly creatures than to obsess over a cold, inanimate piece of metal and glass.
 
Right and still multiple people felt you were making elitist jabs at people that live in lower income areas. Because at the end of the day what was your main point of your entire post then?
to tell the dude who i quoted, that his generalizations are quite silly! and you felt the same way about it!

anyway. apple watch has not made me healthier. it has made more more aware that i should probably work out more though
 
Bee in your bonnet much?
Yes, I do have one hell of a bee in my bonnet and a well earned one at that. I've worked with abandoned pets. I've seen how horribly people can neglect and treat these animalls. And unless you've seen the same, then you don't get to be dismissive.

His advice was UNsound. All a person needs to do to be healthier and happier is get a dog? Oh, yeah, great advice...What could go wrong? It's not like there's any chance that dog is going to chew shoes, destroy furniture, maybe not be housebroken, bark all night, jump on people, bite, be difficult to train, temperamental or anything like that, right? Any of those things that would make a person take the back, abuse or abandon the dog...none of those things will happen. :rolleyes:

Yeah. Right. Getting a dog is easier and more effective than buying a new gadget...NOT.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for people adopting dogs. But not in place of a gadget. I've SEEN what happens to dogs when people use them in place of gadgets. And if you haven't seen it, then you should. Everyone who is a dog or cat lover should see it before giving out such advice, however well intentioned.
 
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Less than four months after the Apple Watch launched, many early adopters are finding that the wrist-worn device has motivated them to make healthy lifestyle changes. From walking and exercising more often to making healthier choices and playing more sports, market research firm Wristly found that many Apple Watch buyers are taking full advantage of the wearable's health and fitness features.

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Greater than 75% of survey participants among Wristly's panel of nearly 1000 Apple Watch buyers indicated that they "Strongly Agree" or "Agree" that they have been standing more since receiving the Apple Watch. Similarly, 67% of participants agreed that they walk more, 59% agreed they make better health choices and 57% said they exercise more often with the Apple Watch.

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Early adopters are generally satisfied with the Apple Watch's health and fitness features, especially those included stock on the device. An aggregate 89% of survey participants were either "Very Satisfied" or "Satisfied" with the built-in Activity app, while around 80% were satisfied with the heart rate sensor and hourly standup reminders and just over 75% were satisfied with the Workout app.

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Jim Dalrymple of The Loop echoed similar sentiments in his Apple Watch review in June, in which he shared his personal story about losing 40 pounds using HealthKit and Apple Watch. After ten months of exercising, weight lifting and healthier eating decisions, Dalrymple lost four pant sizes and two shirt sizes, and the Apple Watch kept him motivated to reach his goals:Making healthy lifestyle changes requires consistency, and Wristly found that many early adopters are still wearing the Apple Watch regularly. 86% of survey participants said they are still wearing the Apple Watch on a daily basis, while 12.3% wear it on most days, 1.3% go several days without wearing one and three respondents reported that they no longer wear the Apple Watch.

While the Apple Watch is certainly not the only wearable device motivating people to get in shape, the Move, Exercise and Stand rings, workout summaries, achievement badges, progress updates, personalized feedback and its other health and fitness features appear to have challenged early adopters in ways they did not expect.

Wristly is the largest independent Apple Watch research platform with an opt-in panel of around 1000 Apple Watch buyers. The research firm recently found the Apple Watch to have a 97% customer satisfaction rate, a number that Apple CEO Tim Cook cited during the company's recent third quarter earnings results conference call.

Article Link: Apple Watch Leading to Healthy Lifestyle Changes Among Early Adopters
 
My wife bought me an apple watch and it has dramatically changed my life.

When I'm in business meetings I am so much more focused on the people and topics in front of me. I set my apple watch to only alert me to the most pressing messages I receive. In the past I alway used to glance at my phone pointlessly, to the point of anxiety.

I'm trying to lose weight and the activity monitor has motivated me to do more.

When I'm feeling stressed I check my heart rate on the watch and I make sure to calm down if needed.

The one that's surprised me is "hey Siri" reminders to my calendar. Those are a lot of fun and very helpful if I'm having a catch with my son and don't want to pull out my phone/nor forget something.

I'm saying this and the apps that exist are not tremendous so far so I expect them to get much better.

The simple part for me too is it's fun! I grew up on Stark Trek and taking a phone call through my watch is a lot of fun.

I expect the watch faces and apps to much improve.

I'm very happy based on how I personally utilize the watch.
 
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The solution.. Come on.. So all the lard arses need to do is drop 400 bucks, and hey presto.. The weight will come flying off.. Id wager that a treadmill is a better fitness solution than so something you strap on your wrist everyday of the week..

Why the mean spiritedness on what someone needs to kickstart being active? Most people work 10+ hours a day, raise a family, have hardly anytime for themselves. Whatever it takes (and the watch is a subtle motivator) is a good thing when we're talking about standing up enough, exercising enough, drinking enough, who cares how someone motivates themselves to do that? It's great more people are doing this is the point.
 
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seems that people who don't own an Apple Watch are the ones contending the study. meanwhile, there are also active users/owners that are validating the results. I don't know who to believe!
 
I find the watch useful in several ways, not just in prompting me to get up and exercise. The other day I was out on my deck, wearing the watch, of course, and the iPhone was in the house. Because it was a hot day and I had the A/C running, I also had the doors and windows closed, so would not have heard the phone ringing. When a call came in, I was delighted to be alerted to it by the watch; in the past I would have missed that call altogether and only found out about it when next picking up the iPhone.
 
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Why the mean spiritedness on what someone needs to kickstart being active? Most people work 10+ hours a day, raise a family, have hardly anytime for themselves. Whatever it takes (and the watch is a subtle motivator) is a good thing when we're talking about standing up enough, exercising enough, drinking enough, who cares how someone motivates themselves to do that? It's great more people are doing this is the point.
Read what I was replying to.. Someone wrote the watch was a better exercise solution than a treadmill.. Jeez..
 
Human nature is to also get defensive and sarcastic when uneducated (e.g., not understanding what "nature" means in "human nature").

Last I looked, "human nature" and "tendency" go together. Even if I were to accept that following fads or being fat and lazy when food is plentiful are fundamental to human nature, those are tendencies - nature vs. nurture; the age-old question of whether humans have the will to do other than their "base natures" might dictate. Whether free will truly exists is hardly a settled issue, one that will not be decided here.

Even if I accepted that we all follow a herd, there's a huge amount of evidence to support the notion that there is more than one herd. The world seems a whole lot more complex than "black and white" or "0 or 1." So when someone suggests the world is all black or all white...
 
Read what I was replying to.. Someone wrote the watch was a better exercise solution than a treadmill.. Jeez..

I believe the point they were trying to make is that the watch motivates you to use the treadmill. If you have a treadmill but you aren't using it, the treadmill isn't a good exercise solution. The watch, on the other hand, can motivate you to start exercising, whether it is by taking more walks, or dusting off that treadmill you haven't been using. In that sense, you could say the watch is more useful than a treadmill for exercise.
 
Well, I just got the Apple Watch market survey email. Pretty detailed survey, actually. I'm sorry to disappoint some of the haters - I just skewed the results even more positively. I have nothing bad to say about my Apple Watch. :cool:
 
Last I looked, "human nature" and "tendency" go together. Even if I were to accept that following fads or being fat and lazy when food is plentiful are fundamental to human nature, those are tendencies - nature vs. nurture; the age-old question of whether humans have the will to do other than their "base natures" might dictate. Whether free will truly exists is hardly a settled issue, one that will not be decided here.

Even if I accepted that we all follow a herd, there's a huge amount of evidence to support the notion that there is more than one herd. The world seems a whole lot more complex than "black and white" or "0 or 1." So when someone suggests the world is all black or all white...

Free will exists.

Happy to put your mind at rest.
 
Last I looked, "human nature" and "tendency" go together.

Now you're just contradicting yourself. Obviously you didn't look that up on Wikipedia before you posted "One size fits all, everyone is the same." which clearly showed that you thought that "human nature"/"tendency" must apply to "all"/"everyone".

Summary: "most" does not equal "all"
 
When a call came in, I was delighted to be alerted to it by the watch; in the past I would have missed that call altogether and only found out about it when next picking up the iPhone.

This. I've even taken calls while my phone is charging two floors above me. Love it. :)
 
Sounds like a sales pitch to me.

The bloody watch doesn't do anything, the wearer does.

If it takes buying an Apple Watch to wake up the owner to eating healthy and exercising... that's a very poor reflection of the person who's wrist it's on.

Long before Apple Watch was even a prototype I was taught proper life skills and practices by my athletic parents. It's well known, and has been for many years, that personal responsibility and putting forth the effort to do the right things results in a life well lived and enjoyed. :D


My tracking gear? SUUNTO

Um good for you?

You're saying not being healthy is a poor reflection of the person, but then you imply that you're healthy thanks to your parents. Is the solution for unhealthy people to go back in time and get better parents?
 
it's truly sad that Americans need an electronic device on their wrist to be healthy
America is the only country where people have electronic devices on their wrists to help them improve their health? :rolleyes: I'm pretty sure that all these wrist-worn electronic devices (AW included) are available in many different countries; also that not all who wear such (Americans included) are unhealthy before adopting them. Some, I'm sure, are in good shape and find such devices useful for fine-tuning their routine. Which is to say, you can't take from this report, or even from the examples offered here by users of the Apple Watch or other such devices that us sad, poor Americans need such to get healthy and can't do it any other way.

Now, you could say it's sad that most jobs in our modern world involve sitting at a desk and having to drive or take transit to work (i.e. sitting some more). That they don't require more activity and I'd certainly agree. But it'd be a bit difficult to get everyone back to farming land and/or hunting for dinner like our always active predecessors. Electronic devices to remind us to move about seem like a more realistic solution to keeping us healthy, don't you agree?

Which is all to say: I don't think the use of an electronic device to keep us moderns healthy is in anyway a comment on how pathetic we are, much as you'd like it to be. You wouldn't moan about a person who had a little alarm on his/her wrist watch to remind them to take a pill, would you? Yet that is an electronic device they NEED to keep them healthy. So why are these wrist-worn fitness devices "sad" indicators of our poor health? I don't any of them any "sadder" than other artificial reminder humans have created to help them wake up or take medicine or do any other things to keep them fit.
 
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Then there's the rested calorie miscalculation. I weigh 270 and am 6'2" so my resting calories is pretty high, but it's not 3800 calories a day like the watch claims. At that rate I could eat two whole pizzas a day and still lose weight.

That would depend upon your age and activity rate. If you were a moderately active 25 year old, your basal metabolic rate would be about what you cited. See http://www.healthstatus.com/perl/calculator.cgi
 
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I don't think the Apple Watch will make the slightest difference to the health or fitness of people.

These things will be thrown in the drawer after the honeymoon wears off. It's like joining a gym. At first, you plunge in and try to be good. As time goes on and life sets in, you go less and less, until you realise that your membership isn't worth it, so you cancel it.

I've never seen Jonathan Ive as fat as he is these days. That's ironic as he is the designer of the Apple Watch, a supposed health device. He's not exactly a walking advertisement for it.

That's not the watches fault it's the wearer. The watch is simply another motivator to get people active and it works. These people chose to spend their money on a product and the fact that they are getting something positive out of the purchase is great.

Why are you people trying to dumb down and or minimize people's real life positive experiences?
 
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