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Wait a second...

Who is the boss here ?

I'm all for tech getting people healthy and all, but its not for me...

I reckon i can do better.

"If Apple Watch says stand, I stand. I still don’t know why." There's ya problem.
 
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Wait a second... A piece of technology is *telling us* what do to ?

Who is the boss here ? Don't let that little weenie tell you want to do..

So when your car oil light comes on 'telling you' to your oil is low and you need to out more in - the car is the 'boss' ?

Okay. Keep twisting things to make your point.... sigh....
 
But the nice thing about the Apple Watch is that you can go to the convenience store and buy potato chips and a coke with it.
Funny you should mention that. Last week my watch pinged me to walk around a bit.

So I marched to the snack machines to buy cookies, fruit snacks and a coke - all thanks to ApplePay on my wrist. While leaving the machines, it cheerfully congratulated me on walking around a bit! If only it knew. :oops:

In the old days, I'd run out of change after the cookies and that would be that. Now I can feast all day.
 
I love the fitness angle of it but it's horribly flawed.

For example, I've used it on "other" workout to cut the grass (in blazing heat) and after 30 minutes descend into my frigid man cave with a cold one and watch a movie. At the end of the movie I look at my watch and it's like "****, I forgot to end the workout.", end it, watch the moving calorie ring fly around a few times, and find I have burned 1600 calories and gotten credit for 3 hours of exercise -- all while reclining in a man chair. Hell, I even missed a stand activity during that time.

So of course I got loads of achievements and records that I'll never break legitimately. I tried to not save the workout but it still credited the exercise and calorie burns.

Then there's the rested calorie miscalculation. I weigh 270 and am 6'2" so my resting calories is pretty high, but it's not 3800 calories a day like the watch claims. At that rate I could eat two whole pizzas a day and still lose weight.
 
...For example, I've used it on "other" workout to cut the grass (in blazing heat) and after 30 minutes descend into my frigid man cave with a cold one and watch a movie. At the end of the movie I look at my watch and it's like "****, I forgot to end the workout.", end it, watch the moving calorie ring fly around a few times, and find I have burned 1600 calories and gotten credit for 3 hours of exercise -- all while reclining in a man chair.
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I've forgotten to end a workout too, but mine stops counting. Maybe because my heart rate slows? Not sure.

So... what sort of movie are you watching? ;)
 
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I've forgotten to end a workout too, but mine stops counting. Maybe because my heart rate slows? Not sure.

So... what sort of movie are you watching? ;)

Ha. I wondered about that. I looked at my recorded heart rate over that time in the health app and it dropped to normal (50-60 bps). Interesting that yours stops counting. Maybe there's something about me that makes me a freak of nature or something! :)
 
So when your car oil light comes on 'telling you' to your oil is low and you need to out more in - the car is the 'boss' ?

Okay. Keep twisting things to make your point.... sigh....


its not universal in this case, its specific circumstances
 
I hate to admit it, but I'm currently wearing an Apple Watch on my left wrist and I just purchased a Fitbit Charge HR to track my sleep at night.

It's only been two days since I started wearing the Fitbit, but I've got to say, I'm pretty impressed. It's heart rate monitor is great and it's sleep tracking (within the app) is amazingly informative. The dedicated app puts Health Kit to shame.

One thing to note: In order to get your data into Health Kit, you have to cheat with another app. Fitbit doesn't want to play nice with Apple.

Cool. Thanks for the info.
 
Not really, but if you doing it after 1 PM it can affect your sleep, because there's still will be caffeine in your body when you'll go to bad.

It all depends on how caffeine affects your body too.

If my wife has coffee at dinner, she can't sleep at night. If I have a coffee at 10pm, I can be sound asleep at 11pm. Coffee also doesn't make me feel more awake in the morning. I'm one of those people who can get up at 6am, I feel alert. I never drink coffee - usually orange juice.
 
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It all depends on how caffeine affects your body too.

If my wife has coffee at dinner, she can't sleep at night. If I have a coffee at 10pm, I can be sound asleep at 11pm. Coffee also doesn't make me feel more awake in the morning. I'm one of those people who can get up at 6am, I feel alert. I never drink coffee - usually orange juice.

I would avoid juice, they all have enormous amount of processed sugar and can cause diabetes, even if you have slim body. Even fresh 100% is not good for you because it doesn't have natural fibres, only pure natural sugar which is not healthy at all. You can watch this movie.
 
It all depends on how caffeine affects your body too.

If my wife has coffee at dinner, she can't sleep at night. If I have a coffee at 10pm, I can be sound asleep at 11pm. Coffee also doesn't make me feel more awake in the morning. I'm one of those people who can get up at 6am, I feel alert. I never drink coffee - usually orange juice.
I'm with you (except for the OJ... that'll send my blood sugar to the moon, and I'd probably have to mainline insulin to get it back down).

Of course, I love generalized statements about people. It's almost like we're a herd of cattle when we're talked about this way.
 
I've forgotten to end a workout too, but mine stops counting. Maybe because my heart rate slows? Not sure.

Which workout were you using? The problem that was described happens only with the Other workout. It happens because Other is supposed to be used for things like weight lifting and yoga where you spend a lot of time not moving.
 
Most Apple Watch purchasers also live in affluent or upper town ZIP Codes with a lot more greenery and walking paths and trails than someone who can't afford a Apple Watch living in less affluent ZIP codes with far less land devoted to increasing public health.

Where on earth are you getting your info from?
 
This seems true for me. I bought it a few minutes after it was released and have had it since May. Getting it did coincide with weather getting nicer and me having holiday and generally exercising more so I supposed I would have improved my health anyway. But the notifications to stand up are actually activating me and reminding me not to be lazy very often so I do believe the watch has a significant effect on my health related behaviour. As for the exercise goals I rarely meet them since I usually take of my watch when I exercise but they do remind me that I should exercise.

What the watch does great is notify you of all these small things. I look forward to more advanced intelligence notifying me of other important aspects of my life and helping me be the me I want to be.
 
I'm pretty sure it's because few people have a perfectly stable weight. I'm also pretty sure I didn't blame my watch for my weight gain. I'm dumbfounded by your interpretation.
My response was of course meant to be absurd, just as absurd as the statement I responded to. The point was that people are blaming the watch for everything, from weight gain to a drop in sexual libido. These people need to take a course in logic and common sense and stop irrationally hating something just because it doesn't fulfill their needs. But that will ever happen. Some people just enjoy being absurd and obstinate.
 
Frosty just loves to jump into Apple Watch threads to pan the watch because... well, because. He's certainly entitled to his opinions, but I think that he doth protest too much. It's as if he can't accept the fact that some of us AW owners really are happy with our purchases, gen 1 limitations notwithstanding.

Indeed. While everyone is "entitled" to an opinion, and opinion without substance or that isn't based upon common sense or reasonable data is completely worthless and does nothing other then to indicate the lack of credibility of the opinion. Mr. Frost is an expert at doing this and seems to enjoy provoking people. I have been banned in the past for refuting his statements. Too bad he isn't banned for inciting and provoking the members with his absurdities. My favorite was his claim that using apple pay on the watch is uncomfortable and painful.
 
I like trying to fill all of my rings daily . Especially the stand goal . Still need to work on the excercise goal on days I don't go to the gym. It has made me more conscious of getting up and moving!!
 
I lost more than 8 pounds since I got my Apple Watch, thank you Apple!

Sometimes the level of PR BS is impressive...
 
Which workout were you using? The problem that was described happens only with the Other workout. It happens because Other is supposed to be used for things like weight lifting and yoga where you spend a lot of time not moving.
Cant remember exactly. Either other or outdoor walk. Like the other guy I was mowing the lawn.
 
Me before and after the Apple Watch:

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Nice work!
But, you're not wearing the watch?!
 
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I can definitely attest to this. Tracking your HR, calories burned, standing and exercise time is a great motivator to push yourself a little bit more each day. It really opened my eyes to how often I sat for prolonged periods of time and how some days were just not very active. If that last, stubborn 10-15 lbs comes off thanks to the Watch it will have more than paid for itself.

The Watch has its fair share of bugs and frustrations, but it's really a world of difference to read about it and to actually use one for a couple of weeks. If you're on the fence, get one and return it within 14 days if you're not satisfied. I think a lot of the griping has come from people who aren't very active and don't meet the minimal fitness benchmarks set by the Activity app and don't want to. If you don't lead an active lifestyle the Apple Watch may in fact be a pass for you. Besides telling the time and getting texts, calls and Facebook messages on it, fitness tracking has been the biggest use for me.
 
My default recommendation is to get yourself a dog - that's much better for your health, fitness and your happiness than becoming addicted to yet another electronic gadget
What a horrible piece of advice. A dog needs more than daily walks--it needs love, attention, to be fed, watered, groomed, de-fleaed, given room to run, vet check-ups, and let's not forget that those walks include scooping up dog poop (don't have to do that with the watch). The dog should also be trained. Few dogs come well trained and it takes time and effort and patience to make sure they don't pull, growl, bark all night, get into fights with other dogs, etc.

A dog, in short, is far more of an investment than a gadget.

I'm now imagining people buying dogs, keeping them locked up all day except when taken out for walks because the dog was just gotten to motivate the owner to take those daily walks/runs, not because the owner wanted to give that dog a good life. And when the owner realizes that unlike a gadget the dog demands upwards of ten years of time, money, attention? That's a dog who will end up abandoned or in the pound.

If all someone is after is a motivator to exercise, than better they should be addicted to another gadget. As healthy as you think a dog is, it's irresponsible to advise people to get one for that reason alone. A gadget can't be harmed by a neglectful, selfish person who wants it only for one purpose. A dog can be.
 
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