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Most women (I am one) have a purse. The only other independent option, is a twice as big gear watch that would look like a techno-monstrosity with any dress; so. When not having a regular purse, a women would have a clutch to carry their phones.

But, there are other options too.

Blue tooth LE has a decent range (more than 100m in theory) (that's why bluetooth speakers exist after all). So, if your phone is within that range, it can be paired with bluetooth with it.

But even if your phone is not in bluetooth range, if the watch is on the same WIFI network, your watch can be paired with it.... This was confirmed at the march event...
http://bgr.com/2015/03/16/apple-watch-release-specs-android-wear/

With WIFI extenders, you could thus cover a very wide area where your phone is also in, without needing the phone nearby. An hotel with WIFI for example would fit the bill.

But am I going to be able to get my watch on the hotel wi-fi network? I usually stay at Hilton properties and they require an authentication where I enter my last name and room number to secure wi-fi access for a device. How easy will it be to add wi-fi credentials to the watch? If Apple makes it so that any passwords you store in your phone automatically propagate to the watch, that would be nice. (though that wouldn't help with the type of login system used by Hilton and other hotel chains).

I didn't know the bit about pairing if both watch and phone are on same wi-fi network. I thought it had to be by Bluetooth. That would make it more useful around the house....or even at work, where I'm in a large building that is on wi-fi. Theoretically I could then leave my phone at my desk much of the day and just rely on the watch.

If this is possible, then it should also be technically possible for the watch to contact the phone if the watch is on ANY wi-fi network. For instance if I go to an event where there is public wi-fi, I should be able to leave my phone in the car with an LTE connection and have the watch be able to be in contact with it, even if it is on a wi-fi network. Apple may not have this enabled, but why wouldn't it be theoretically possible? If it were, then the watch would be even more functional.
 
How sadly uninformed you must be. Or maybe a little envy?

No envy here, just that I got older now, got married and had a 1 year old kid. So I invested a large amount of my money last year on building a new large house in the suburbs. Just a change in priorities.

I have a few nice watches sitting in my bedroom drawer now cause I just don't like putting on a big heavy watch anymore, it just feels like a chore. I don't even wear gold jewelry anymore either. I don't know, to me watches and jewelry on a guy just seems so 90's these days.
 
But am I going to be able to get my watch on the hotel wi-fi network? I usually stay at Hilton properties and they require an authentication where I enter my last name and room number to secure wi-fi access for a device. How easy will it be to add wi-fi credentials to the watch? If Apple makes it so that any passwords you store in your phone automatically propagate to the watch, that would be nice. (though that wouldn't help with the type of login system used by Hilton and other hotel chains).

I didn't know the bit about pairing if both watch and phone are on same wi-fi network. I thought it had to be by Bluetooth. That would make it more useful around the house....or even at work, where I'm in a large building that is on wi-fi. Theoretically I could then leave my phone at my desk much of the day and just rely on the watch.

If this is possible, then it should also be technically possible for the watch to contact the phone if the watch is on ANY wi-fi network. For instance if I go to an event where there is public wi-fi, I should be able to leave my phone in the car with an LTE connection and have the watch be able to be in contact with it, even if it is on a wi-fi network. Apple may not have this enabled, but why wouldn't it be theoretically possible? If it were, then the watch would be even more functional.

Right now, it has to be on the same network, probably because discoverability is way more complex is it is on a routed network. If the phone was remote, the automatic setup could become complex. Maybe it could be done by having Apple being the intermediary in setting up the connection (the watch if it can't find the phone would connect to the Apple cloud, same thing with the phone).

Even at work, you'd have to insure your phone on one WIFI network is seen on other WIFI nets in the buildings. If they're bridged, they should be. If they're routed, it depends on how the watch discovers the phone and vice-versa.

But, eventually I think they'll be able to have to watch connect to your phone that is on any remote WIFI network. In some areas, like SFO, there are WIFI networks everywhere. So, potentially you wouldn't need to have your phone with you even without a cell connection.

Also, the new standard of bluetooth is routable (4.1), which means they could also do the same with your phone connecting with bluetooth and your phone connecting to the remote router with WIFI. Staying on bluetooth instead of using WIFI is better for the battery.
 
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You don't think Apple carefully plants stories in magazines and online? That's page 2 in the Apple playbook after "be ridiculously secret until it's time to say something". They've been doing that since forever, it just hasn't been in the fashion world.

"Plant" is the wrong verb. Pitch is more accurate. To suggest Apple plants it means it wrote the store and then demanded its inclusion. These magazines may be full of ads but they are not catalogs like Sky. What Apple is doing with the Apple Watch is no different that what any other savvy companies does -- provide samples and story angles to target magazines. From there it's up to the story editors to decide if its something they want to include in an issue.

But let be clear here. If this watch was a clunker no amount of positive story angles or influence could get it on the cover -- maybe at the back with lone blurb -- "for the Apple obsessed from $345 this spring."
 
No envy here, just that I got older now, got married and had a 1 year old kid. So I invested a large amount of my money last year on building a new large house in the suburbs. Just a change in priorities.

I have a few nice watches sitting in my bedroom drawer now cause I just don't like putting on a big heavy watch anymore, it just feels like a chore. I don't even wear gold jewelry anymore either. I don't know, to me watches and jewelry on a guy just seems so 90's these days.

To each his own.

I would not be so presumptuous as to comment on someone else's taste and lifestyle choices. I would be pleased to find others sharing the same philosophy.
 
I wear an Omega, and most people have no clue about their heritage or that it was the original watch worn in space or during the moon landing. If I were merely trying to show off, I'd buy a Rolex.

I wear an Omega, because I believe it to be a very cool watch, my grandfather used to own a watch repair shop, and I find it amazing that a device with no electronics can tell time so well.

So I don't buy your premise that the ONLY reason people buy a nice timepiece is to show off. There is plenty of bling watches out there I could have purchased if that were my goal.

I do drive a Benz, but not an S-Class. But I've been driven in an S-Class, and I can assure you, it's not about the status. You're talking about a car that has features in it that ordinary cars will have in it ten years from now. The model I was driven in had tiny cameras in it that looked for bumps in the road, so that it could modify its own suspension to brace for potholes in the road. It was an engineering masterpiece. So again, I don't buy your statement that the only reason people buy them is to show off. That's more Bentley and Rolls territory.

I'm not even going to address your sexism regarding women and technology (for instance, my wife has a Ph.D and is successful in her job but she can't operate my home theater receiver). I mean, there was a time when computers were seen as nerdy, and it was people like Wozniak playing with printed circuits in their garage. But those days are long gone. Women buy just as many smart phones and laptops today as men.

Wow, I just read your comment about Walmart shirts. Do you just inhabit a world made totally of stereotypes of your own creation? Hate to burst your bubble, but the world is not so black and white. And if you buy your shirts at Walmart, you are probably not Apple's target audience for the most part.
I don't go to Walmart because the people who shop there just are nasty, I always feel like I'm gonna get robbed the moment I pull in the parking lot.

Cars these days are all the same, trust me I work at a car company. The big differentials these days are styling, price, and name brand. You can get a Ford all hooked up with the latest technologies similar to a Benz, put people will still pay the extra premium for the Benz just based on the name. If people just wanted the best car, I bet you the Hyundai Equus is probably just as good or better than a Benz but of course people want the Benz name and I agree with them. If I was gonna pay 100k on a car, I WANT people to know that I can afford such a car instead of getting that Hyundai Benz knockoff.

And yes, the majority of women don't like tech stuff other than having an iphone. I see it everyday at the gym, the guys all have their bluetooth headsets on for music or talking and the girl got the phone stuck to the ear. Same when I'm driving, I use my car's bluetooth connection to talk and the women I see on the road have the phone placed on their ear. Seriously, I don't think I ever even seen a women use a bluetooth head piece yet, I'm sure they exist somewhere out in the wild, I just never saw it.
 
I am very interested in seeing how the Apple Watch pans out over the next few years. I'm a watch guy and have been since I was a boy so this is definitely of interest to me, however, I won't be buying the first generation or the second or potentially the third. From what I have seen so far I just don't "get it" as to why an Apple Watch is something I will want/use.

Having said that I can honestly say I didn't understand the iPod when it was announced or the iPad when it was announced so clearly I am not the one to be predicting how a product will succeed.
 
Ah, then I better remove my wedding band. I don't want to look too dated. Obviously you know what's best. :p

I hate wearing my wedding band too to be honest, my wife don't even care if I have it on or off, but I still wear it at work just so that they don't think I'm some sort of giggolo.
 
The  Watch is not for everyone. Neither is the iPhone, nor any given Apple product, for that matter.

They're way too smart to succumb to clever Apple marketing; way too smart and committed to spending the least for the most; way too smart to enter "the walled garden."

But the  Watch is destined to disrupt at least several industries. Can't wait to get mne.

One of the few smart comments. Thanks.
 
Looks absolutely ridiculous on her. I doubt she would choose it as an accessory on her own. Apple is in fantasy land with this marketing.
 
But I thought that all Apple-haters think people buy Apple phones for the shiny Apple logo? This makes them fashion accessories.

Sure seems like a lot of ads DO show phones as fashion accessories as well:

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And thus, you notice the screen is off.

and I'm not an apple hater by far. I was just saying why it would make sense as to why they should have screen off in an ad.

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You're right and he knows it. They aren't marketed as fashion accessories. But there's a reason no ads show the watch with the screen off. It's advertising. Advertising shows products in their best light. It would be stupid to show the watch with the screen dark. It's an ad, not a white paper.

I know that, I was just giving credence as to why there is a case for not have the screen on.
 
Billions of women who do not want and/or can not afford an Watch. The 6 million people who read this magazine are totally in the Watch's target audience.

Well aware of that - and has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making or the one I was replying to.
 
Do any of the fashion articles note where you discreetly tuck your iPhone so that it stays within range of the watch so that the watch is fully functional? I'm not sure that dress has a pocket capable of holding an iPhone 6 Plus.

It's a fashion magazine. I would argue most watches are worn as fashionable accessories now.

Don't you think if this ad were telling of a real situation, this woman would give a flying **** about a fully functional watch??

She's wearing it to make a statement. A statement you obviously can't perceive.
 
I hate wearing my wedding band too to be honest, my wife don't even care if I have it on or off, but I still wear it at work just so that they don't think I'm some sort of giggolo.

Why are you so concerned what people will think of you? That's the problem with much of this world, they are so concerned about how they look in other people's eyes. I will never give anyone that much credit to where they should make me feel uneasy if I want to wear select jewelry, and in this case the AppleWatch.
 
So I belong to a very large fashion forum where (mostly) women discuss designer clothes, jewelry, hand bags and more. There has been zero interest in the apple watch. Mostly people who buy designer stuff expect things to last for years and may justify buying a purse for $10k because they can pass it down to their daughters or it tends to hold its value or something. Apple watches don't fit into that scenario. So sure Apple can go after that market but Apple needs more than 'here is this watch that will last you 2-3 years'.
 
So I belong to a very large fashion forum where (mostly) women discuss designer clothes, jewelry, hand bags and more. There has been zero interest in the apple watch. Mostly people who buy designer stuff expect things to last for years and may justify buying a purse for $10k because they can pass it down to their daughters or it tends to hold its value or something. Apple watches don't fit into that scenario. So sure Apple can go after that market but Apple needs more than 'here is this watch that will last you 2-3 years'.

And I know someone who works at Vogue and says the opposite... Which one of us is right?... Who knows... Anecdotes mean NOTHING.

Also, your 10K watch is not doing the same thing as this, and never will, so your argument is kind of non sequitur.
 
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Seriously? You do realize the word "Sexy" doesn't have to pertain to male or female body parts becoming aroused resulting in intercourse.

Nice sports cars are sexy, nice looking shoes can have sex appeal. Oh why am I even bothering explaining this to someone who posts such nonsense? :rolleyes:

Well, yes. But I do feel that the word itself is so incredibly overused and the actual meaning of the word does refer to sex. My issue lies with the word and how it's used, but that topic doesn't belong here.

But you're right, discussing etymologi on Macrumors is obviously not the right place.

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You don't have sex with every sexy thing. :confused: Cars are sexy too. Do you want to have sex with them? :p

I simply don't call cars sexy. Nevertheless, I'm well aware that some refer to cars or other objects as sexy, but anyway, that discussion doesn't belong here.
 
Why are you so concerned what people will think of you? That's the problem with much of this world, they are so concerned about how they look in other people's eyes. I will never give anyone that much credit to where they should make me feel uneasy if I want to wear select jewelry, and in this case the AppleWatch.

That's because in the business world at a large corporation, your looks and clothing DO MATTER. With the money they pay me, I can't be coming in looking like a hobo or a hipster. If I want to move up further up in the company, I have to look the part. Personally, I could care less of what others think when I'm not at work, however, when I'm at work, I'm not gonna throw out high paying advancement opportunities over my dressing. Its all about the Benjamins.
 
So, I am guessing the market Apple is going for rail thin, coked up models?
Because that is the only ads I have seen so far.

Like all adverts showing thin models, it is aimed at women who would like to be that thin, and at men who would like their wife or girlfriend to be that thin.
 
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