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If the watch was pre-ordered 1M times just in US and only y Sat. I can imagine a total of 3M weekend pre-orders worldwide which is probably all smart watches sold to date by all other OEMs combined.
 
I'm not following your logic.

How can it be more smartwatches than anyone else... and still be small?

Fine... how many smartwatches should Apple have sold on the first day?

I get it. Apple sold 10 million iPhone 6 the first weekend. So by comparison... 1 million smartwatches is a lower number.

But you can't exactly compare sales of a smartphone to a smartwatch.

You can... but it doesn't really say much.

I find that comment hysterical. When you consider how few people wear a watch, nevermind a smartwatch..... and how many more Androids are out there than iPhones, yet no-one buys Android watches... I'd say that 1 million just in the US is phenomenal!!! Consider how many Android watches are on the market, and Apple just outsold all of their sales from last year, combined, in one day (you can include that crap pebble in there too).

This may have actually caught Apple off guard a little bit. Tim Cook is a genius at supply chain, so don't be surprised if he has a plan for getting these pre-orders out the door a lot faster than the current expected delivery date. Scalpers will be selling them at cost, or giving them away as x-mas presents.
 
The iPod blew people away? Seems to me that's some revisionist history there. Heck, look at comments on this forum after it was announced. Certainly not mind blown.
 
I was thinking something like iPad numbers. So around 500k.

I thought iPad, too. So, around 3 million in the first quarter. Considering how shipping dates have slipped, it might still work out that way.

various people said:
A million in a day is incredible.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well known is this:

Pre-orders do not equal official sales.

Apple will announce pre-orders of course. But they cannot count them as sales and revenue until they're actually shipped. Even if they had 10 million preorders, it doesn't help their immediate profit reports if they can only deliver 3 million in the quarter.

With shipping times slipping towards the end of June, this puts Apple is in a bit of a quandary with respect to reporting sales numbers for the April / May / June quarter. Watch for news of Apple pushing the factories even harder to deliver before July.

The article also said Edition sales weren't counted, as the number was too small. Well, yeah, maybe. Or maybe people who spend $17k+ on a watch are smart enough not to allow a sales tracking firm access to their inbox.

I have not seen anyone mention Elmer-DeWitt's article in Fortune about Apple Watch sales distribution.

He quotes various forum polls where 3% of respondents claim to have bought the Gold Edition. That would be a lot of people.
 
Sure, and what Apple announced was Light Years ahead of that. 1000 songs in your pocket, compared to the CD with 12, or the MP3 player with 24. Not 50, not 100. 1000. They blew people away.

cd player -> ipod

is not the same path as

iphone -> monitoring blood sugar levels and detecting early signs of cancer

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i think your expectations are just a tad too high.. technology moves pretty fast.. not that fast though.
 
Well done for having CPU that fails to make such a simple connection. Your turn.

Well if you have to be an abusive childish Jerk about it.

Apple Watch Received Estimated 1 Million Pre-Orders in U.S. on April 10 = And its just sad.

Doesn't make sense buddy. It can be interpreted in a number of ways.

Sad because people bought a watch and that upsets you?
Sad because you don't like that fact that ANYONE buys a smartwatch at all.
Sad because you think that number is low?
Sad because you think that number is high?
Sad because you think you are being clever and sarcastic?
 
With a limit of two per customer, you could cut the number sold in half—if everyone ordered two. Realistically, it's unlikely that more than 15% of customers had the discretionary income to buy two just to return one.

There was no such limit of two per customer. I have 3 on order.
Discretionary income is not necessarily a factor for all - I used a credit card.
 
Untrue. They already tried that with a number of products, including the Apple III, Pippin, Cube, Xserve, iPod-Hi-Fi and others. Apple did NOT sell a large # of them, not anywhere near 1M units. I don't know anyone who actually purchased any one of those products, deluded fan-boy/girl or not.

My Dad bought an iPod Hi-Fi. It was a great product, slightly ahead of its time.
 
OH EM GEE! I was making a point about being blown away by something we couldn't have imagined. Apple used to be good at that. Now all I hear are excuses about what's possible and it's a start. You guys really need to listen to yourselves the way you make excuses for a mediocre product.

"You guys" hmmmm. "Mediocre" because it doesn't live up to your quite and rather impossible expectations of what a device like this should be? Or simply because it doesn't live up to your realistic expectations, in which case, those are *your* criteria and to declare it's a mediocre product for those reasons is a tad trollish.
 
Agreed!

I'm not following your logic.

How can it be more smartwatches than anyone else... and still be small?

Fine... how many smartwatches should Apple have sold on the first day?

I get it. Apple sold 10 million iPhone 6 the first weekend. So by comparison... 1 million smartwatches is a lower number.

But you can't exactly compare sales of a smartphone to a smartwatch.

You can... but it doesn't really say much.

I would say if they blew through their initial stock in less than a weekend, that it was more than expected. If they are selling every watch that they can make then it's hard to say they didn't sell enough.

I backed Pebble Time and upgraded to the Pebble Time Steel. I think that will also be a great smart watch and I'm getting my wife the Apple Watch. However Pebble managed to sell nearly 100,000 units in 30 days. So compare that to Apple's millions of watches in a weekend and you can see the scale of things.
 
Jesus.. you guys are absolutely impossible, and so literal. The point was, the watch doesnt' do anything spectacular. When it was announced there wasn't a single "HOLY ****!" moment in the presentation the way there has been with other Apple presentations. As an absolute gadget geek, I wasn't interested, and I was bummed out by that. Everyone here assumes that because you're not in favor of something that you're a hater and that you root for something to fail.. for god knows what reason, but that isn't the case. While I personally haven't desired a digital watch at all, I was excited to see what Apple came up with because they're USUALLY very good at making me go "Oh wow, that is amazing and I could really use that." That hasn't happened. And yes, I'm just one person, maybe it isn't for me. But I also have a lot of friends just like me, who are also gadget geeks, and were excited but also let down by what the Apple watch is. I've seen a LOT of very good arguments against he product on this forum, elsewhere and in reviews from people who have actually used it. At this point, I think it's very doubtful that I might pick one up and then somehow be surprised by what it actually does that I hadn't considered or was unable to picture before.

Around here you're either a frothing at the mouth fanboy, or a troll, I guess. Opinions aren't welcome.. unless they're the same opinion everyone else shares.

Enjoy your watches, I know you will. I'll be holding out for the Apple I used to know and love, as I'm sure somewhere deep down, they've still got it in them.

"You guys" hmmmm. "Mediocre" because it doesn't live up to your quite and rather impossible expectations of what a device like this should be? Or simply because it doesn't live up to your realistic expectations, in which case, those are *your* criteria and to declare it's a mediocre product for those reasons is a tad trollish.
 
I have no idea why folk keep saying this. As far as I can tell, the lightning connector is at one end of the cable, the USB-C connector goes at the other.

The phone itself (and all other iDevices) will have a USB-C.
You will either need an USB-C to USB or USB-C to USB-C to interconnect and charge.

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You honestly think that someone who is able to pay 17K for a damn watch cares about its resale value?

Yep, unless is bought with drug or bad money.

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The people who buy this type of watch are the same people who buy cars (plural) that depreciate even more the day after they drive them off the auto dealership lot. Even a non-gold-plated Tesla depreciates more after 2 years.

A car is a car. 1/2 in 3 years, fully drivable.
iPad 1st Gen fetches $50. 90% depreciation.
 
^^ I bet more people have smart phones stolen than Rolex Watches. I wear my Rolex and Breitling watches too and more people likely know what an iPhone is vs the watch.

In general your right, but I work in a country and region where if someone finds out you have a watch like that, you would be ill advised to even walk on the streets. All depends on your environment.

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You can use a stolen Rolex. You cannot use a stolen Apple Watch (if the owner has set it up so that it cannot be used).

That's my hope, hopefully the local scum bags see it the same way. :)
 
$170.00??? This is wrong.

The intrinsic value of the gold is worth a lot more than that at current gold prices.

There really isn't that much gold in the watch. If you melt it, you would recover maybe $1200. Sales tax on the watch alone is $1300.

Profits are insane! :eek: $9,000 to $15,000 per Edition!
Good for Apple, it is no Rolex.
 
There really isn't that much gold in the watch. If you melt it, you would recover maybe $1200. Sales tax on the watch alone is $1300.

Profits are insane! :eek: $9,000 to $15,000 per Edition!
Good for Apple, it is no Rolex.

I'm sorry but how do you know this?

Have you actually dismantled an Apple Watch Edition and measured the amount of gold in it? Where are you getting these numbers?

Also, since when does this math actually work? You can't take $1200 off the price of the watch and claim that was remains is profit. You are ignoring development costs, build costs, putting in place the infrastructure to produce, retail costs, staff costs, the actual watch electronics, the high end straps with additional gold content.

You are making your point starting with some arbitrary amount of gold you claim is in it, ignoring any and all costs that allowed Apple to get to this point, including 3 years of R&D, and then claiming insane profits.
 
iPhone sold 270k units on its release day.

iPad sold 300k units on its release day.

1mil units is "Soft demand" my ass.

I think demand for the watch is as high as it's going to go, right now. When the iphone was released Apple didn't have the weight it does now. iPad sales are declining. Watch sales will start on that same trend soon.

You won't be any less of a person because of it though so don't worry.
 
Nice comments about the watch...

CNBC's Jim Cramer said Monday the nearly 1 million pre-orders estimated for the Apple Watch point to long-run success for the tech giant.

"This is now a 2016 phenomenon because by that time, everyone will know that you have to have this device. People under 25 have never had this device. Suddenly, they're going to wear it because it's part of their ecosystem," Cramer said in an interview on CNBC's "Squawk on the Street."
 
My only thought is that Apple didn't have nearly the amount of watches I thought they might have if shipping dates are already that pushed back and the sales numbers are 1 million (or upt o 2 million worldwide) if we are to believe these #s.
 
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