THey sold 150million iphone in 2014? 70+million Q1 2015 , 10-15million is modest .
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Apple Watch Received Estimated 1 Million Pre-Orders in U.S. on April 10
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THey sold 150million iphone in 2014? 70+million Q1 2015 , 10-15million is modest .
Thank goodness I'm at the other end of the age scale then and near retirement. Why is society so facile now? I know each generation says the same but this present one really has little substance.
Is the latest gadget all that can be aspired too?
The iPhone is a tried and true product. The watch is a new product and previous attempts at a watch have failed spectacularly.
apple is also an entirely different company than they were when the first iphone came out and considering it goes with the iphone they have established an enormously large market base for the watch.
what would you call modest in apples world?
btw what is the least selling apple product/model?
Well like u said, every thing depreciate. Including your RS5 my RS4 etc. but yet we still buy them, the AW is no defferent. Every body has a different life style. U may not have a use for the AW but many others do, including myself. All those watches that u currently own, are nice wearable time pieces. I have a few my self. the thing about the AW is its from a whole defferent era.
Unlike traditional time peice, it does a whole lot more than just tell the time. And look good doing it at the same time. For all the benefits that the AW will bring to most people lifestyle. I don't think the prices is outrageous at all. All my watches compared to the apple watch are more expensive. And they only do two things look good and tell the time.
As for the AW eidtion, you are paying for luxury material. Because it does the same thing as the other AW's. People pay good money for luxury everyday. Cars, houses, yachts etc. just the way it is in the world of fashion and luxury lifestyles. As for the life span of the AW, I could see it lasting 5-6 years easily. Some people still have iPhone 3G & 3GS and the first iPad.
Out dated maybe, but they still work fine. People throw money away everyday by there choices that they make with it in most people opinion. See people in Vargas before, betting 2-300,000 before like it nothing. It's just the way it is in the world, if u have the money and something makes sense for u to purchase it. Then by all means do it, as long as you are happy with it that's what matters the most.
In the end the AW will have many benefits for many people. And for some not so, but it's all good anyways.
If you like the product go ahead and buy it. Its just that you are buying into a brand and the product itself is nothing special. There have been several studies done (you can look it up) where if you give people the same cake to taste, one being cheap, the other being expensive, they actually enjoy the more expensive cake more. The crazy thing is that its not just psychological, its also physiological that one cake was better than the other. So you and countless others might actually love everything about the watch, but the watch itself is not special in any way.Well, you've figured it all out it appears, everyone's criteria that is. God, is that you?
My earlier comments stand (regarding the judgments), and setting aside the asinine comment about mediocrity (at least as it relates to the technology in the device), one wonders why people feel so compelled to share their "astute insights" regarding mediocre devices with others who might not share their views. Nothing better to do with one's time, perhaps go kick some puppies would be a better use of it?
300-500k launch weekend sales... like the iPad. The first iPad sold 300k during the first weekend. So I think the watch should be able to sell 500k.
Well, you are a naysayer of something you have not yet tried out - what can I say but "noted". We are all entitled to our opinion, it's just surprising how many guys are "glass is half empty" on stuff like this. Surely there must be some motivation to post negatively. If I am negative about something I rarely come to a fan site and post about it - so what is the motivation on these forums?
I met a taxi driver in Atlanta who told me he gets paid $5.00 per post to post negative comments - he sets up tons of fake Google accounts and sets up on lots of forums. I laughed when I heard it from him, but it's true! I sometimes wonder if the negative posts here are coming from my Taxi driver haha.
You have it backward. If you're ever buying any and you look up the reviews online, look at the negative reviews. They are the only honest reviews.
I really wouldn't call those honest review, what I want to see is some one put the watch to the test. By using it for all the things that it is capable of doing. This I have yet to see, a true review. Which is more likely to happen when the watch get out in the wild. April 24 etc.
if they actually have 2million base of which 9000 people bought then the 1milion number works out if they assume they have 2million of a 222million potential nation wide buying group. which is a believable number I guess.
Apple watch a misstep, I don't think so. I would buy one just to control my Apple TV alone.
What kind of person opts-in to this???
the kind that does it accidentally or unknowingly
Well no.. not really. They were bought mechanisms really in originally.
Oh and every barks on about Rolex being Swiss Precision etc. Rolex was originally a British import company. Rolex were Just as much about marketing as Apple.
Anyone that buys a Rolex at any price point is a sucker.... and has no taste at all.
OK Judas1
Such honesty out there, so willing to share openly with all of us on this forum. I should be grateful that they are warning me about how useless the Apple Watch is, and how they don't like it and won't buy it. So Honest and So Open Minded!
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Yep, and I would buy it for the heart rate monitoring and fitness measurements alone. Good Comment.
And apparently it will do a lot more, so it's a bonus, and it's fun to think about all the cool stuff to come. I'm Stoked and want to play with my new Apple toy!
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1 - No and nor does Rolex - 60% mark up on those. About 90% on the steel ones.
2 - Yes probably for a few generations - the strap connections are very thin and will allow the watch to become progressively smaller over generations
3 - They are backward compatible with an adaptor. I use a few still.
4 - People that don't understand Lightning never will. It's incredible adaptable and programmable - USB C could have been the solution. But it was 3 years away and we'd not have had phones as thin with the chunky 30 pin. Lightning is not going anywhere for 5 years at least. I suspect Blueooth 4.2 - 5 and other wireless tech will take over in the future.
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Er... no. Samsung have hundreds of paid Schills. Many of them frequent here. Easy to spot. Normally very short, abusive responses. Less than 2 sentances and very little actual comment. And they post hundreds of them.
Also you have to remember the psychology of people. They will MOSTLY only bother commenting about something when they have something to complain about.
Tripadvisor is a prime example of all this. A few bad reviews can destroy a hotel and there are often negative reviews posted by other local hotels. It's insane thinking. Just makes people think that the entire city is a *****hole full of arrogant hotel owners. It's the internet. Believe nothing.
Exactly how I feel.
I would get a SS watch with linked or Milanese loop and pay the price for it be a dumb watch and nothing else. (But we know it does more than just a dumb watch so the price is cheap
I think there will be a lot more people who feel that way than many think. A different strap changes the look considerably too. I think a lot of people buy fashion watches in this price range and this is something different, yet not radical looking.
The SS link is nice, it has a hefty feel to it. The Edition in rose gold with either the Red Modern Buckle or the Rose Gray Modern Buckle has a certain elegance and uniqueness to it. It also looks good with the white sport band. I really tried to keep my wife away from those.
It is amazing to see the effort people are going to just to try and help people not buy a product or repeat endlessly why they aren't buying it. Lol
Yet Apple continues to make products that us "Suckers" keep buying and loving it. The craftsmanship is second to none for related companies. People keep buying Apple products and keep succeeding and the suckers are paying the price. Pun intended. I love the products. All of them. I'm successful because of the products. I'm the most successful sucker.
my life and my career is successful because of Apple Products. I wouldn't buy any other brand. Every one of us has things in our house or home or garage that are guilty pleasures. Anyone who says they don't is lying.
My gawd, the effort people are going to just to say why they won't buy the watch is laughable. Don't buy it. Move along.
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I think there will be a lot more people who feel that way than many think. A different strap changes the look considerably too. I think a lot of people buy fashion watches in this price range and this is something different, yet not radical looking.
The SS link is nice, it has a hefty feel to it. The Edition in rose gold with either the Red Modern Buckle or the Rose Gray Modern Buckle has a certain elegance and uniqueness to it. It also looks good with the white sport band. I really tried to keep my wife away from those.
Don't you understand? The people here are trying to help you by saying you are a sucker or idiot and why it isn't worth it. They are only trying to help you.
that's why they are here all day. They only want to help you.
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A product is only as good as the desire for someone to buy it. Rolex can charge whatever they want if people buy it. Apple can charge whatever they want if people keep buying. They charge the most for everything and they still sell more than anyone as the most successful tech company in the world with insane profits and market cap. Cream always rises to the top.
Rolex could go the way of pocket watch (or any nice mechanical piece for that matter), where the market won't expand in the very future and then decline and becomes a niche player in a very limited market place.
I mean that could happen if existing watch wearer and new generation prefer Apple Watch over traditional mechanical watches that just tell time, for their wrist, and don't find watch collecting a worthy hobby anymore.
Just saying it could happen. To myself I am holding off buying another Rolex until I have given Apple Watch enough chance to determine for myself if a Smart Watch (with little collector value) is going to occupy my wrist 100% of the time, and if I would still have an appetite wearing a piece of traditional watch for any occasion going forward.
The fitness/health tracking aspect may be the game changer.
IMO, a smartwatch isn't going to have collector value like a traditional watch. And why not still wear the traditional watch for special occasions? An Apple watch doesn't have to completely replace everything you currently own, especially if you like traditional mechanical watches. I don't see a Rolex owner giving up on owning and wearing a Rolex in favor of a smartwatch. If anything, I'd own both.
"health tracking and steps" etc.
Power of data collection is formidable and addictive.
When I takes off the Apple Watch and put on the Rolex, I lose the data for the duration.
At some point it is a decision what's "worth more"? The data? Or wearing a Rolex?
I considered a Citizen Eco Drive diving watch that included a depth meter and was good down to 200 meters. No I would never dive that deep. It's a margin of safety. The Citizen costs about $700 list or about $500 street. For that money I would get a watch that never needs charging because it runs off light. I would get a watch I might wear a few times a year for diving or swimming. For a little less, I chose the black aluminum Apple watch. I can pay for my coffee in the morning by waving my wrist at the card reader. I get notifications and can see what they are without digging for my phone. This thing might just allow me to bury my phone in my backpack and all I ever use is my bluetooth earbud for talking and my Apple sport watch for viewing notifications, texts, etc.
There is no right answer to whether the Rolex or the Citizen is worth more. It depends on usage, hence my decision to go with the lower end Apple watch. I'm risking less up front investment but I really do expect to be delighted just as I have been with most other Apple products I've owned. Notable exceptions are Time Capsule and Airport Extreme but the reason wasn't about quality, it was about my preferences. I also went to the local jeweler to look at Rolex watches, new and used, not that I seriously considered them as an option. I just wanted to get an idea how they look and feel. When I tried the Apple watch on at the Apple store last Friday, I didn't get the sense it was "cheap" or "plasticky" compared to either the Citizen or the Rolex. Will it be a collector's item? I don't care. I care if it works for me now and I expect it will work for me now and work well.
There is no right answer to whether the Rolex or the Citizen is worth more. It depends on usage, hence my decision to go with the lower end Apple watch. I'm risking less up front investment but I really do expect to be delighted just as I have been with most other Apple products I've owned. Notable exceptions are Time Capsule and Airport Extreme but the reason wasn't about quality, it was about my preferences. I also went to the local jeweler to look at Rolex watches, new and used, not that I seriously considered them as an option. I just wanted to get an idea how they look and feel. When I tried the Apple watch on at the Apple store last Friday, I didn't get the sense it was "cheap" or "plasticky" compared to either the Citizen or the Rolex. Will it be a collector's item? I don't care. I care if it works for me now and I expect it will work for me now and work well.