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The other thing, and again, I'm not an attorney, but it was important that they showed use of the patents (I thought any patent you had was enforceable, using it or not), and the watches they've put into the market didn't exist until late 2023.
You only need to show use of the patent to get the ITC to issue an import ban. Otherwise, use is not required to enforce a patent in court.
 
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Dumb thing to toot that horn about. If they disable it via software, which is highly likely. You lost!

I didn't buy it for Sp02. In all honestly - I used it just once to test it and then I can't really see myself needing again. I bought one of the fingertip sensors when I had Covid and I'll put money on the fact it's more accurate than Apple Watch Sp02.
 
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Nice that you can make fun of how others spend their money. As far as the lawsuit, who cares. I'll love my watch with our without the sensor. Patent disputes in technology are not always cut and dry, and that's what the courts are for. Anyone's opinions on what is going to happen going forward or who is right or wrong is simply that, an opinion. Let the courts play it out and the chips fall where they may.
 
No, Apple will not disable this feature on existing watches, there is no legal requirement to do so
And I think they will remove the app from being a native app and make it something you have to install to get around the ban.
 
And I think they will remove the app from being a native app and make it something you have to install to get around the ban.
Again, the ban is affecting NEW sales, not for existing watches that have been sold.
Plus, it only applies to Apple online and retail and not other resellers until they run out of inventory.
To “get around” the ban Apple will disable SpO2 for new watches it sells.
 
Again, the ban is affecting NEW sales, not for existing watches that have been sold.
Plus, it only applies to Apple online and retail and not other resellers until they run out of inventory.
To “get around” the ban Apple will disable SpO2 for new watches it sells.
Right but if new watches don't have the app it meets the requirements to bring the hardware into the US. There is nothing stopping Apple turn it on after sale is made.
 
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This has really damaged Apples momentum in wearables and has been a PR fiasco. Mr. Cook really looks like he is flailing and has lost control of the situation.

They don't have much time to get things back on track. And no Mr. Cook... a crippled wearable is not an option if Apple wants to be a leader. Amazing that they have moved forward with this plan to cripple a major product of theirs.

There are MANY more health parameters/measures that will be incorporated in wearables in the future and Apple either is in the game or they are not.

Ball is in your court Apple.
No one outside of tech sites even know this is going on.
 
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Right but if new watches don't have the app it meets the requirements to bring the hardware into the US. There is nothing stopping Apple turn it on after sale is made.
I am not sure about that. Selling a device without a certain feature and then later turn that feature on sounds fishy, but, Apple can certainly enable that feature once the patent issue is resolved.
 
'Masimo said it previously released a study showing that the Apple Watch's blood oxygen sensing feature "missed over 90% of potentially life-threatening events," while touting the effectiveness of its own Masimo W1 health watch.'

So, if the premise is that the Apple Watch uses Masimo's patent(s), then what does it say about the Masimo W1 health watch?
 
This assumes, of course, that Masimo is being reasonable in its ask. The device my doctor uses can be bought on Amazon for $12. The rumor I heard was that Masimo is asking $100/watch.
Why do you CARE? Apple can afford that and then some... And not blink an eye... Pay the developers their due! WHY do you side with billionaires and share holders in a situation like this?
 
Doesn’t this report that Masimo touts prove that Apple did NOT copy Masimo’s IP? I mean if Apple copied it, wouldn’t the results be the same between the Apple Watch and the Masimo W1?
Masimo said it previously released a study showing that the Apple Watch's blood oxygen sensing feature "missed over 90% of potentially life-threatening events," while touting the effectiveness of its own Masimo W1 health watch.

Article Link: Apple Watch Sales Ban Reinstated in U.S. Effective Tomorrow
 
Doesn’t this report that Masimo touts prove that Apple did NOT copy Masimo’s IP? I mean if Apple copied it, wouldn’t the results be the same between the Apple Watch and the Masimo W1?

No. Apple copied Masimo's hardware. Doesn't mean the algorithms are the same.

Everybody licenses ARM technologies, but it doesn't mean everyone's implementation performs the same.
 
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