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No wonder. I see plenty of Watches in the wild, typically worn by non-techie people (and many seniors).

Another strong signal is the collapse of the Swiss watch sector (as predicted in a funky way by Jony Ive).

Critical mass is piling up, the Apple Watch is set to explode into mainstream next year.
 
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[QUOTE="djcerla, post: 23140798, member: 957351"]No wonder. I see plenty ofWatches in the wild, typically worn by non-techie people (and many seniors).

Another strong signal is the collapse of the Swiss watch sector (as predicted in a funky way by Jony Ive).

Critical mass is piling up, the Apple Watch is set to explode into mainstream next year.[/QUOTE]

This. I see far too many in the wild for it to be a flop.
 
So they can fall further behind? No thanks
Other companies aren't getting ahead of the iPad and some companies are giving up on tablets altogether. They did a 18 month refresh cycle for the 9.7" iPad and it didn't make a difference, the Air 2 is still competitive with tablets today.
It makes sense with the Watch because it is a watch and is not like a phone in terms of when it is upgraded - the high price and lack of functionality also play a role in this. Outdating a watch with a newer model may annoy many consumers.
However they would fall further behind with iPhone if they changed to that upgrade cycle due to the competition.
 
Sounds like a solution in search of a problem. Do you need a smart cup to know if you drink enough water too?

If you have read anything about sport watches its a very common thing and very popular to have onboard a so called sport watch. Its not at all a solution in search of a problem. The problem is apple is laking in a so called sport watch.
 
Wow. How did you manage that one?

My Apple Watch had been collecting dust for months. I was getting close to the end of the Apple Care coverage, so I decided to fire it up and prep it for sale. It was bricked. I talked to tech support and ran through their troubleshooting, no luck. They told me to go to the Apple Store to get it replaced. I went to the Apple Store, and was told that they would have to ship it out for repair. I got cranky because, "why did tech support tell me to drive all the way out to the Apple Store just to have you ship it out for repair, I could have done that myself..." Genius bar guy talks to his manager who approves giving me a brand new watch. This already has me happy, brand new in box == better resale price. Turns out they had no 42mm Stainless Steel watches in stock, so they offered to either order/ship a new one to me, or give me a refund. I tried not to look too enthusiastic as I opted for the refund.
 
And these are based on speculation.

Tim Cook has never revealed sales figures, supposedly for competitive reasons.

We all know the real reason.

These "speculations" are based on sales figures from large retailers like Target, Best Buy, Walmart, Amazon and many others. They're generally accurate to the true sales numbers.
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Wasn't iOS 10 + watchOS 3 able to track your run without taking the iPhone with you?

Current watch already can. Having your phone along with GPS makes it more accurate in that it can track actual distance traveled but even without it along the results are almost identical.

Those complaining about lack of GPS have never experimented with the watch without it and believe they need it without any real evidence.
 
I've tried and tried but just don't get enough value wearing one to use it/charge it every day. Was excited with WatchOS 3, but that novelty wore off quickly and I'm back to only wearing it occasionally again.
 
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As an Apple Watch owner, even I am a little skeptical of these numbers. UBS isn't reporting how they came to these figures, and they certainly didn't come from Apple as Tim buried those numbers in the "accessories" bin right next to charging docks and headphones a year ago. My guess is they polled certain retailers and then extrapolated the figured from there with a best guess formula. In other words, it's a complete crap shoot full of wishful thinking in an attempt to further inflate AAPL price before next week's post-Q3 call short sell.
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These "speculations" are based on sales figures from large retailers like Target, Best Buy, Walmart, Amazon and many others. They're generally accurate to the true sales numbers.
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Current watch already can. Having your phone along with GPS makes it more accurate in that it can track actual distance traveled but even without it along the results are almost identical.

Those complaining about lack of GPS have never experimented with the watch without it and believe they need it without any real evidence.

Unpublished sales figures, and no, they aren't always accurate because they are largely speculation as it isn't like any of these retailers fax UBS an exact inventory sheet quarterly.
 
And these are based on speculation.

Tim Cook has never revealed sales figures, supposedly for competitive reasons.

We all know the real reason.

Your entire statement is based on speculation.

Tim said that he wouldn't be releasing Watch figures for competitive reasons months before the first watch ever shipped.

If the real reason they aren't releasing sales figures is due to poor sales as you're implying (and hoping for some irrational reason), then Tim must be a clairvoyant.
 
Many reasons, but probably the biggest one is for tracking your runs without having to lug a phone around.


yeah, i have a Garmin GPS watch since 2008.Excellent piece.. I am amazed it still works as i have put a few thousand km on it . Tracks ,speed distance , heartrate etc.. plug it into computer software and get satellite images of where you ran ,elevation , windpseed direction,.. i could go on and on ..

Most serious runners , bikers, etc.. do not use an apple watch for training. There are sooo many other options that are better its almost a joke when comparing at this point .

Apple will get there eventually if people keep buying.
 
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My Apple Watch had been collecting dust for months. I was getting close to the end of the Apple Care coverage, so I decided to fire it up and prep it for sale. It was bricked. I talked to tech support and ran through their troubleshooting, no luck. They told me to go to the Apple Store to get it replaced. I went to the Apple Store, and was told that they would have to ship it out for repair. I got cranky because, "why did tech support tell me to drive all the way out to the Apple Store just to have you ship it out for repair, I could have done that myself..." Genius bar guy talks to his manager who approves giving me a brand new watch. This already has me happy, brand new in box == better resale price. Turns out they had no 42mm Stainless Steel watches in stock, so they offered to either order/ship a new one to me, or give me a refund. I tried not to look too enthusiastic as I opted for the refund.
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Hah, very interesting. Thanks for sharing. At the very least, you have to be happy with Apple taking care of you. I am very interested in the Apple Watch but realize it isn't for everyone. For me, the first model didn't quite have enough features for me to purchase but I am hoping the second one (hopefully in September) will.
 
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I absolutely love my Apple watch. It's so handy at the most random occasions; many of them you wouldn't even think of until you own one. For example - pumping gas and leaving your phone in the car.

What I want is a big bump in the hardware specs. I don't care about having dedicated GPS or cellular. Make the watch more snappy. That's how you're going to make me happy.
 
I workout. I just don't need some device to tell me that i ran. I know this on my own. Route recording? How is that benefiting your health?

It's not to tell you that you ran, it's to track your performance. The average jogger having a bit of exercise wouldn't need to track, but anyone who runs competitively or who is tracking their progress so they can increase their distance, reduce their times and generally monitor their performance absolutely needs a way to track the data.

I'm not sure if you genuinely don't understand it or are trying to get a reaction. It's not some kind of strange conspiracy, it's pretty common for runners and cyclists. I wish I had something more accurate in my running days, I had to just stick to a route that had been carefully measured and use a stopwatch, trying not to cut any corners or deviate from the course. Obviously my monitoring wasn't that accurate, but it was the best I could do really. Now with GPS data built into tiny devices you can make great use of the information, share it with your coach and make sure you are making good progress. I used to run with a guy who did a similar training distance to me but he was much slower, yet in a race he always beat me. Years later we realised he was basically running uphill for half his training route, mine was all at sea level.
 
I see some every day, I hardly ever see anyone actually using them tho - and smart watches as a whole are pretty dismal right now, as if the fad has worn off within those 2 years it was a thing.
 
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Finding an AppleWatch in the wild used to be like spotting a Sasquatch. Now, I see AppleWatches everywhere.

I was shooting a press event for a jewellery chain when one after the other, every single reporter coming in was wearing an AppleWatch. I had mentioned to the CEO earlier how they'd have a big hit if they sold AppleWatch bracelets and he dismissed the idea saying that he hasn't seen many people who owned them. It was pretty funny then how as he went to put on a $40,000 watch on each reporter, every single one was wearing an AppleWatch and we'd look at each other and I'd give him a smirk.

It's now becoming apparent to me that the AppleWatch will reach a critical mass once the second generation is released. When people start noticing them everywhere, this thing is going to catch on fire just like white earbuds did with the iPod.
 
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