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So let’s say I really want the SS watch but don’t want to activate a data plan on it, the battery will only last 14 hours? I would get the non-cellular watch but it only comes in aluminum
If you don't have an active data plan, it means you're using BT which should give you ~18 hours of battery life. What the article is saying is that you can get 18 hours of battery life on the LTE model, as long as 4 hours of which are using LTE and the remainder is via a BT connection. Since you won't be using LTE, you should be getting ~18 hours.
 
This is already possible because of battery breakthroughs.

I'm predicting that the Apple Watch will become our phones in 5+ years and cell phones will become our PCs. You connect BT Headphones to the Apple Watch, you can make and receive calls. Replying to Texts/Tweets can be done via Siri: 'Hey Siri, read me my twitter feed' 'Reply to the_donYou Suck #MAGA'

If you need to look something up, or entertain yourself on a larger screen, you take out your 'cell phone' which is now just a LTE connected iOS device with a larger screen (i.e. iPad with LTE). The concept of a dedicated 'cellular phone' will disappear as more devices become LTE enabled.

This would be a post-pc word. Your daily interaction with technology is seamless. The problem is, a lot of this technology is still a few years away at the earliest. Such as the battery technology. You're going to need an Apple Watch that lasts a lot longer than 1 hour talk time for it to replace your phone. This is the baby steps towards abandoning the concept of a 'cell phone'. This is where I think Apple is 'thinking differently'
 
Why does the Apple Watch series 3 need BT5?! Shiiiiiizzzzz
So it will load content from the iPhone a lot faster. Kinda surprised it doesn’t have it since the iPhone X does (not sure about the 8 because honestly who gives a crap about the 8, lol).
 
So let’s say I really want the SS watch but don’t want to activate a data plan on it, the battery will only last 14 hours? I would get the non-cellular watch but it only comes in aluminum


I hadn't notice that. I am not bothered about LTE but I much prefer the SS.

My Watch S1 lasts barely 10 hours even when doing no workout (can't include WO because I have to recharge it if I want it to last).
 
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Red dot, red dot, red dot, can't stop wondering about that red dot!!!
Why does the crown have a red dot? It freaks me out.
Perhaps its my phobia of Red Back Spiders. :(

Never the less, I might still get one.
The talk time is plenty! Most calls I make are short. And its not like we're on the phone for hours.
Will pop into an Apple Store and give it a trial, when its available. :)
 
Why does it last longer when used for workouts when near an iPhone? What does it use the iPhone for during a workout?


I think that could be because when you use it near an iPhone it will select some other wireless protocol than LTE cellular. For instance, maybe it uses bluetooth or Wifi instead of LTE and that saves energy.

The connectivity of these devices depends in part on some background connectivity - so things like alerts can be transmitted to the watch, even if you are doing something like a workout
 
Come on people did you really think the battery life was going to improve over the other Apple Watch series 2. Especially when they added LTE.
The only way that will happen is with new battery Technology or if you put a bigger battery in it. Then the question is how big to you want your watch to be.
 
Let's forget about LTE talk time for now. It's not that important to be able to have a 90 minute conversation on your Watch (unless I missed something).

What's much more important for us Watch owners (and I've worn my Series 2 every day since late 2016) is how long the battery can handle various notifications and texts over LTE (and maybe occasionally asking Siri to look something up).

That's a much more realistic scenario for a person walking around, wearing the watch, with no phone nearby.
 
Well I can start messing with Snapchat filters on my iPhone 7 and drain the battery in an hour. So like any device, battery life will vary widely based on usage.

An hour of talk time is pretty short, but the watch is way smaller than a phone, so we're not working with much battery here. Most people will not stay on a call too long on the watch (the arm would get tired fast) but instead will be more interested in texts, notifications, etc. using the LTE radio, which is much more power efficient.

And if you're going to invest in a Series 3 and a $10/mo data plan adder (Verizon and AT&T just announced that rate) and actually use the watch like a phone, then you might as well pick up an extra charging puck or two, like you would have cables lying around for your phone.
 
The next watch will have a bigger screen and therefore will have a bigger battery and can them have a FaceTime cam. They’re gonna do it one day.

I’m all for a bigger screen and a bigger battery.

But no FaceTime camera. No. No, no, no, no, no.

Oh, hell no.

No one is going to FaceTime their friends and family with their wrists hanging in the air or have their arm relaxed down by their waist with the camera pointed up their nose to capture 4K video of boogers and hair.

No FaceTime camera.
 
1 hour of talk time? What's the point? You talk to someone and then have to take off your watch and wait around 2 hours to get it back to full charge.


I guess if you want to talk longer than that it could be a problem. It's a limit.

I guess to solve it, you could buy 2 Apple watches, one for each wrist.

I'm getting one for my business line, and the other one for personal calls. :)
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Haha this why I am not convinced about LTE on the watch. 1 hour talk time? On the feature (making phone calls on it) that was advertised? Cue in people moaning and groaning about it in the next few months.

You could carry a 7000 mAh USB "power bank" together with the Apple Watch magnetic induction USB charge cord. Run the cord down your arm and tape it in place. Now you can charge the Apple Watch while it's on your wrist and talk for hours and hours that way. :)
 
That's about my average talk time for an entire month.
1 hour of talk time? What's the point? You talk to someone and then have to take off your watch and wait around 2 hours to get it back to full charge.

Clearly that you dont understand the purpose of the watch. You dont get the Apple Watch to make phone calls. You get the Apple Watch because you need a watch that you can use on daily basis. Workout with. And now, the Apple Watch will make you still be available when your without your massive iPhone 7 pluss or something. You can make small phonecalls(one to 5 mins) and text, and lisent to music without a phone, when you are on a run, or a quick stop at the mall. Thats whats its all about, a good start for a great watch! And then lay it on the wireless charger at night:)
 
Clearly that you dont understand the purpose of the watch. You dont get the Apple Watch to make phone calls. You get the Apple Watch because you need a watch that you can use on daily basis. Workout with. And now, the Apple Watch will make you still be available when your without your massive iPhone 7 pluss or something. You can make small phonecalls(one to 5 mins) and text, and lisent to music without a phone, when you are on a run, or a quick stop at the mall. Thats whats its all about, a good start for a great watch! And then lay it on the wireless charger at night:)


I use mine for Heart Rate and Activity and for lane swimming and even open water swimming and monitoring stocks at a glance and weather and sunrise/sunset times. It's awesome. Best feature? Probably for swimming and counting laps and stroke count automatically simultaneously with heart rate. For open water swims, I love the GPS.

It also surprises me with useful stuff - like Siri, which will be so much better on the new one (Siri has voice now on Apple Watch), and 2FA (2 factor authentication), and lots of iPhone apps that also have Apple Watch apps.

Voice calls with LTE will probably be handy sometimes - on the rare occasions I am not with the iPhone. Nice to have. I think the LTE cell functions are best for running/jogging - no more carrying the iPhone on a 7K run.

Also - will be handy for when you get stuck with a dead iPhone battery - maybe the watch can offer some redundancy for those oh so important phone calls.
 
I take my watch off at work and charge it on my desk for an hour or so. I'm able to sleep with it on and get to work the next day where I charge it again. Not a big deal.

This is exactly what I do. I learned from my old Garmin Vivosmart that having an alarm clock on your wrist works better than one on your nightstand - so I like to sleep with it on. And given that my Series 1 will last just shy of two days between charges, it's not particularly problematic if I forget to charge it (like if I get to work and immediately am dealing with fire after fire).
 
Let's forget about LTE talk time for now. It's not that important to be able to have a 90 minute conversation on your Watch (unless I missed something).

What's much more important for us Watch owners (and I've worn my Series 2 every day since late 2016) is how long the battery can handle various notifications and texts over LTE (and maybe occasionally asking Siri to look something up).

That's a much more realistic scenario for a person walking around, wearing the watch, with no phone nearby.


Agreed - that is the number I'd be most interested in as well.
 
I think that could be because when you use it near an iPhone it will select some other wireless protocol than LTE cellular. For instance, maybe it uses bluetooth or Wifi instead of LTE and that saves energy.

The connectivity of these devices depends in part on some background connectivity - so things like alerts can be transmitted to the watch, even if you are doing something like a workout
Oh, hmmm... So it's not that the iPhone is still running the apps like the first year the Watch came out. It's that the data being fed to the Watch by the iPhone is less draining than the data coming from LTE. I got that before. But it specifically said that for workouts the battery lasts longer when near an iPhone -- which made me wonder if the Workout app runs on the phone when it's nearby? I dunno. I'm confused.
 
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