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I'm predicting that the Apple Watch will become our phones in 5+ years and cell phones will become our PCs. You connect BT Headphones to the Apple Watch, you can make and receive calls. Replying to Texts/Tweets can be done via Siri: 'Hey Siri, read me my twitter feed' 'Reply to the_donYou Suck #MAGA'

If you need to look something up, or entertain yourself on a larger screen, you take out your 'cell phone' which is now just a LTE connected iOS device with a larger screen (i.e. iPad with LTE). The concept of a dedicated 'cellular phone' will disappear as more devices become LTE enabled.

This would be a post-pc word. Your daily interaction with technology is seamless. The problem is, a lot of this technology is still a few years away at the earliest. Such as the battery technology. You're going to need an Apple Watch that lasts a lot longer than 1 hour talk time for it to replace your phone. This is the baby steps towards abandoning the concept of a 'cell phone'. This is where I think Apple is 'thinking differently'


This. I want to tether my iPod touch off the watch. The days of lugging giant bricks around in our pockets all the time are numbered.
 
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One hour of battery life?

Ugh.

But gotta start somewhere.
It does suck that’s it only 1 hour, but how many of us have had more than a 5 minute convo from our watch so far? (Obviously cellular will change that)
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This. I want to tether my iPod touch off the watch. The days of lugging giant bricks around in our pockets all the time are numbered.
Are they really? Most of what I do on my phone would be impossible on my watch.
 
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This is exactly what I do. I learned from my old Garmin Vivosmart that having an alarm clock on your wrist works better than one on your nightstand - so I like to sleep with it on. And given that my Series 1 will last just shy of two days between charges, it's not particularly problematic if I forget to charge it (like if I get to work and immediately am dealing with fire after fire).

This is a great idea! I might have to try this.

As for the article...

This is actually encouraging to see the numbers. I'm seriously considering upgrading my watch and going with the LTE model. The talk time doesn't matter at all. It's nice to have a way to take a quick call or make an emergency call while out.

I can go run a few miles with just my watch or hit the beach without worrying about my phone. I think the use case for LTE is really limited but I happen to fit the niche. If you don't, that's cool. Your watch will be cheaper. It doesn't mean it's a dumb or useless feature.

This makes me really happy I skipped the Series 2. The watch is definitely not a device I'll be upgrading regularly and this seems like to good time to grab one. My current is a used model I picked up shortly after they came out and the longer I use it and the more they update the OS the more I like it.
 
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Oh, hmmm... So it's not that the iPhone is still running the apps like the first year the Watch came out. It's that the data being fed to the Watch by the iPhone is less draining than the data coming from LTE. I got that before. But it specifically said that for workouts the battery lasts longer when near an iPhone -- which made me wonder if the Workout app runs on the phone when it's nearby? I dunno. I'm confused.

More details would be needed to get to the answer with respect to "workouts"

Both the iPhone AND the Apple Watch can make sensor measurements for workouts.

Does the data collected need to be (or is it) sent anywhere?

I'd rather pass on this one - I don't know
 
I'm predicting that the Apple Watch will become our phones in 5+ years and cell phones will become our PCs. You connect BT Headphones to the Apple Watch, you can make and receive calls. Replying to Texts/Tweets can be done via Siri: 'Hey Siri, read me my twitter feed' 'Reply to the_donYou Suck #MAGA'

If you need to look something up, or entertain yourself on a larger screen, you take out your 'cell phone' which is now just a LTE connected iOS device with a larger screen (i.e. iPad with LTE). The concept of a dedicated 'cellular phone' will disappear as more devices become LTE enabled.

This would be a post-pc word. Your daily interaction with technology is seamless. The problem is, a lot of this technology is still a few years away at the earliest. Such as the battery technology. You're going to need an Apple Watch that lasts a lot longer than 1 hour talk time for it to replace your phone. This is the baby steps towards abandoning the concept of a 'cell phone'. This is where I think Apple is 'thinking differently'
This is so off it's not even funny. Well in my opinion anyway. Have you SEEN the way people in our culture walk around staring at their cell phones like zombies? Nobody wants to give that up to "hear" their twitter feed or just wait until they're near an iPad. It just won't work like that. And the market decides the tech we get.

What's more likely is that augmented reality will be the paradigm shift we've been waiting our entire lives for. Through glasses or contact lenses or whatever, you will see your content whenever you want in a fantastic new way. We are starting small with ar on iPhone as a "building from the ground up" kinda thing to set up a good foundation for content and get everybody used to it. But apple will undoubtedly release something you wear that let's you literally see the world through augumented reality. See your driving directions. See information about people. Browse the web through a graphic on your eyes that can be the equivalent to a movie screen. Any size you want
 
Nobody wants to know if you have to pay more to have LTE services on your Apple Watch?

Do you use the same phone number as your iPhone?

Can it have it's own separate phone number?

What if my cell provider does not yet support "Apple Watch LTE"?


These are better questions than complaining about 1 hour talk time I think.
 
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Is it hate or agenda?
It's telling it like it is not like you want it to be. Avoid using the watch and you'll get the 18 hours. Use the features that make it useful and that will rapidly dwindle to not even lasting the day, particularly once the battery approaches a year old and has been through a few hundred recharge cycles.
Going away for the weekend, or even overnight? Don't forget all those cables and plugs.
 
Want to know that too.
Is it just because you can show-off the fact you own the cellular one...? That would be cheap...

Not to show off, but it designates and indicates that you have a cellular device on your wrist perhaps?

It's new tech, so until people get used to it, maybe the red dot serves that purpose?
 
The next watch will have a bigger screen and therefore will have...
Unlikely. The larger size is already big for most wrists. Make it bigger still and it'll be like having an iPod strapped to your wrist. It's not going to happen.
The long term, big blocker is figuring out how to squeeze enough energy in a small battery and that's an industry wide problem that applies to everything portable from electric cars, through laptops down to phones and watches. Weight for weight batteries store about 2% of the energy stored in petrol/gasoline. Solve that and all sorts of things become possible.
 
you can see who really hates apple by the titles of these articles.
forbes: "APPLE WATCH ONLY LASTS 1 HOUR!"
macrumors: "APPLE WATCH LASTS 18 HOURS!"
I don't know about that. Both headlines put together still sound awful. I will stick to my Apple watch series 2 which will last 18 hours as well and really last these 18 hours. Using cellular will diminish these 18 hours fast on the series. Two five minute calls kill 1/6th of your battery life. Not very enticing. IPhone 8 Plus looks nice though.
 
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1 hour of talk time? What's the point? You talk to someone and then have to take off your watch and wait around 2 hours to get it back to full charge.
It’s not meant for talking all the time, who would do that anyway, it’s meant as a safety measure for example you are out running/cycling and you need to make an emergency call.
 
It’s not meant for talking all the time, who would do that anyway, it’s meant as a safety measure for example you are out running/cycling and you need to make an emergency call.

Or if you're out on a paddle board in the middle of a lake, and you see some guy running off with the clothes and iPhone you left over by that tree on the shore.
 
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Disclaimer: I am a huge critic of the Apple Watch.

The Apple marketing team need to revisit primary school. In 99.99999999% of the worlds populations minds, "all-day" equals 24 hours.

It's still nothing more than an over-glorified fitness watch. Plus the last thing I want when I go running is somebody calling me or checking my messages!

One of the best things about going running is getting away from anyone that would like to get hold of me. I don't take my phone. I just have my TomTom Runner which is wonderful. It has a purpose and that's what matters. The Apple Watch is just trying too hard. They should have released the Nike+ version, and marketed it as a Sports / Health fitness watch, but it was always seen by Apple as a "do-everything" device. It's also still seriously fugly, but I guess that particular view is subjective. (I do want to add my TomTom Runner is seriously fugly too but I'm no fashionista when I go running...)
 
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Apple should implement activity-tracking-only mode to improve the battery life to couple of days to kill Fitbit watch.
 
I am a fan of Apple products and own an iPhone, Macbook Pro and iPad but I sold my Apple watch less than 6 months after using it and it certainly wasn't because of the lack of cellular.

To me, a watch is a watch, I am not desperate enough to need to see my notifications instantly and the screen was far too small to do anything meaningful on it so I ended up getting out my iPhone just as much as I did before.

I realise there is a market for this but personally I just don't see the point of it.

My regular watch tells me the time and the battery lasts years.

My phone then gives me the notifications.
 
18 hours of battery life is not bad for the new Apple Watch Series 3. I definitely need to upgrade from my Apple Watch Series 1. It still works and its taken quite a beating but Siri and grabbing info from the phone is ludicrous. I like the features it can do but IMO it definitely needs LTE. So I have to ask if anyone knows “Why is there a red dot besides it being an indicator for the watch being an LTE model?” The red crown is seriously messing with me right now and I’m already thinking of modding the watch to put on my older crown. So back to battery life. Apple should consider making the next models “Automatic”. You just need several miniature components to make it work: a weight connected to an oscillator which winds a spring which is then connected to an electromagnet that spins which is then connected to a power inverter leading to the battery. This way, with every swing of your arm, it recharges the battery in the Apple Watch. I know that the Series 3 is going to be an improvement in any case so thanks Apple.
 
good job on the e-sim. It's a better step.

However, without wireless charging from some distance, it's a pass for me. After bashing Qi style charging, funny how Apple adopted it. LAME!
 
1hr LTE calling makes it kind of useless. Must be the tiny battery and old 14nm node process. This is where Samsung has the advantage with its own fab and 10nm process. Next Galaxy Gear S4 with 7nm will really hit the sweet spot for battery life.
 
you can see who really hates apple by the titles of these articles.
forbes: "APPLE WATCH ONLY LASTS 1 HOUR!"
macrumors: "APPLE WATCH LASTS 18 HOURS!"

I was reading the wired live blog during the event, those guys were hilarious in their snarkiness and put downs. At first I was annoyed but it was funny as heck so I had to laugh.
 
This is so off it's not even funny. Well in my opinion anyway. Have you SEEN the way people in our culture walk around staring at their cell phones like zombies? Nobody wants to give that up to "hear" their twitter feed or just wait until they're near an iPad. It just won't work like that. And the market decides the tech we get.

What's more likely is that augmented reality will be the paradigm shift we've been waiting our entire lives for. Through glasses or contact lenses or whatever, you will see your content whenever you want in a fantastic new way. We are starting small with ar on iPhone as a "building from the ground up" kinda thing to set up a good foundation for content and get everybody used to it. But apple will undoubtedly release something you wear that let's you literally see the world through augumented reality. See your driving directions. See information about people. Browse the web through a graphic on your eyes that can be the equivalent to a movie screen. Any size you want

I don't disagree. What people are overlooking is how the Apple Watch having the same phone number as your iPhone is a game changer. You now essentially have two cellular phones. Granted, the Apple Watch is a pretty crappy phone right now, but it will get better. What's to stop Apple in the future from releasing the AR Glasses with cellular technology embed? The idea of a dedicated cellular phone is going to die in the future, ushered in by wearables. That's my point and yours as well: wearables are the future, but we're not quite there yet. I think the iPhone X will be evolved and refined, but I think we're reaching the end of how far the concept of a dedicated cellular phone can go. A few more years of refinement, but beyond the better battery + better display + faster can a dedicated cell phone really take us?

This is why I think Apple is 'Thinking Differently'... Samsung and LG and others are looking to make cell phones bendable and crazy new form factors for the phone itself. Apple is thinking 'Nah... wearables are the future, and cellphones that you wear' and this is a baby step towards that future.
 
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Apple, I'll be impressed when you have a 1 week battery life. Apple Watch 3 battery life doesn't seem like a massive step up from the first generation - they both last about a day with light usage, and I will need to charge them up each night. #musttryharder
 
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