I went ahead and pulled the trigger on 38 blk ss from best buy. it says oct 13. I'd like to have it by Oct 8 which is my marathon but if its not here its no big deal. i really like the pure platinum band from nike. but I work outside and seeing in how good of shape my series 0 blk ss watch is I can't take a chance on the nike watch ion glass even though its cheaper w/apple care. So I also ordered that nike band from apple. It looks like both should be in around the same time.