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Apple Watch Series 4 to Feature Redesign, Longer Battery Life and 15% Larger Display
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And this is when I'll finally upgrade my Series 0
I’m in the same boat. I’ve got a series 0 as well and just haven’t been compelled into upgrading to this point. However, a redesign might make it worth the price of admission (and can you imagine the jump in performance?).
Well, yes, but the UI was insisted upon to be black in an attempt to hide the large bezels.
It was not black anyway, regardless of the bezels.
That's like saying my mate stinks, but it's ok as I was forced to put a peg on my nose, and as I have the peg, I can't smell him anyway, so his smell is not an issue.
If he didn't smell, you would not need to be forced to have the peg in the 1st place
Not only that but because they’re OLED they use zero power while showing black so it extends the battery life of the tiny battery.Well, yes, but the UI was insisted upon to be black in an attempt to hide the large bezels.
It was not black anyway, regardless of the bezels.
That's like saying my mate stinks, but it's ok as I was forced to put a peg on my nose, and as I have the peg, I can't smell him anyway, so his smell is not an issue.
If he didn't smell, you would not need to be forced to have the peg in the 1st place
Cook will do a round watch whenever square watch sales drop off. In the meantime, he'll milk the current shape.
No. The first clocks were in square towers, and the first worn clocks were in boxes. A round case was harder to make by hand than square, so it denoted a bit of luxury.
Round cases came from needing to pull clocks out of pockets without catching, from a desire for comfort against skin, as a way to maximize analog clockface space, and because round allows rotating bezels for divers, pilots, special forces.
If displaying data was most important, we'd all be wearing this Samsung watch:
We sure wouldn't be wearing an original Apple Watch with its giant bezels taking up over 50% of the visible frontal case area.
Most importantly, millions of people wouldn't have bought the smaller Apple Watch with its smaller display (so much for the claim that it's all about displaying the most data).
The reality is, people wear watches also as jewelry. Apple itself bent over backwards to tout its watch as being about fashion, with its swappable bands.
And the fact is, round watches outsell other shapes by almost nine to one. Mostly because they look better to most people. Fashion. Tradition. Plus...
On a smartwatch, a square display is so 1990s ancient tech it's not even funny. A round OLED display looks modern, even futuristic. If Apple had been the one to do always-on round, fanboys would've dissed all the lift-to-see square watches as weak tech, and everyone knows it.
TL;DR - I think Apple will sell a ton if they go round.
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On a smartwatch, a round display is so 1970s ancient tech it's not even funny. A rectangular OLED display looks modern, even futuristic.
TL;DR - I think Apple is selling a ton in part because they didn't go round.
See what I did there?
As for Apple Watch not being always-on, that's a technological limitation. Battery life is limited enough as it is; you don't want to make it worse by constantly having the display running.
TL;DR - I think Apple is selling a ton in part because they didn't go round.
See what I did there?
As for Apple Watch not being always-on, that's a technological limitation. Battery life is limited enough as it is; you don't want to make it worse by constantly having the display running.
Apple is selling a ton of watches because they are Apple.
But the claim that a round display is so 1970s made me laugh out loud.
You mean so 1970s like this:
Yeah ... that screams the future right there ...
Yeah, you made no sense at all. Before recently, there were no round smartwatch displays. The only choice in the old days was square. E.g.
That's why round displays were so exciting when they were introduced on smartwatches a mere four years ago, and why so many Apple Watch fan concepts hoped it would be round as well.
Android Wear has had an always-on option since nearly the beginning. Watchfaces are created to have both a rich full display, and a dimmer / thinner power sipping display mode.
Those of us who actually use our watches, appreciate being able to glance at them without having to make overt motions.
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I, at first, didn't like the rectangular shape of the Apple Watch. But since using one with a round face for the watch display, I have got used to all the other functions being on a small computer screen..with a phone thrown in
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Um. I guess it depends on how you define "recently" and "old days", but here's a round smartwatch from 2003.
Yes, I see you found a watch from 1985. Hilarious.
To whom?
You mean fifteen.
Yes. What's your point? You can buy plenty of no-longer-called-Android Wear watches; problem is, most people prefer watchOS or Tizen.
Enjoy!
That's a Microsoft Spot watch. It just had a round case. It did not have an actual round display. Spots only had a 96x128 LCD rectangle in their middle.
When Motorola announced its round OLED display, there was a lot of excitement.
After that, a round Apple Watch was one of the most popular fan concept styles.
No one expected the shape that actually came out.
How about turning the rectangle horizontally and fattening it up into more of a squircle ‘til it meets the bands. (There is an article can’t find it where Johnny Ives speaks of a mechanical watch he admired and called weird, and it’s picture took me there.)
If there is a round model please adopt a capacitive face ring ala iPod.
I still think the crown is a major problem for thinness, since it cannot remain the same size and if shrunk will become as annoying as real crowns.
Thinness is a problem of its own as soon as a battery begins to swell, which brings me to watch owners speaking of slowdown... this battery is really small, is there a way to check battery health like on the iPhone before running out to by a new watch? What if it is being throttled to avoid shutdowns? I want all rechargeable products to have a battery health app.
If there is a round model please adopt a capacitive face ring ala iPod.
I still think the crown is a major problem for thinness, since it cannot remain the same size and if shrunk will become as annoying as real crowns.
Thinness is a problem of its own as soon as a battery begins to swell, which brings me to watch owners speaking of slowdown... this battery is really small, is there a way to check battery health like on the iPhone before running out to by a new watch? What if it is being throttled to avoid shutdowns? I want all rechargeable products to have a battery health app.
Interesting observation just made me think this — the current AW has a ridiculously large bezel. The next update is rumored to have a much larger display, perhaps not edge to edge, but much larger. Given that Huawei and others already have edge to edge round displays, it makes sense that Apple wouldn’t even think about releasing one until they’re able to support edge to edge displays. Currently Apple’s bezels give the same size 42mm round watches a clear advantage in display area. Those bezels then would be unacceptable for a round AW in the marketplace.
So step one is edge to edge on the current square model, then they can offer edge to edge on the round.
What you say makes loads and loads of sense but I do think that we’ll see some sort of significant redesign this year to the Watch case.
People like us love how the Watch looks, but for many people it still looks a bit techy.
I think that the watch this year will be look more like a traditional watch i.e. to appeal to the sort of people who wouldn’t wear an Apple Watch.
Plus 4 years of it looking the same in a product category where redesigns are very common, is unlikely.
Take a look at how many redesigns people like Omega, Rolex etc put out each year of their existing models, for example.
Whatever we all think it’s gong to be super fascinating as to what they do. I think we’re all agreed that at least the screen size and/or case is going to change.
S4 might be when I finally upgrade from S0. Frankly - all i need the watch for is workouts, time and notifications... all of which my S0 still does just fine and after 3yrs the battery with daily use is still good for an entire work day with 30-40% to spare by the time i get home and put it on the nightstand at 7pm. and regarding "waterproof" ... I went swimming with my S0 stainless a few times in Barton Springs in Austin with no issues.... now chlorinated pool water or corrosive salt water I wouldn't do...
I agree about the S0 -- Apple underpromised and overdelivered. They didn't get the certification to advertise it as water resistant, but essentially intended it to be so. I've never had a problem with it surfing in the Pacific.
Not upgrading until the Glucose monitor appears. That is by far the most important upgrade they could make that will benefit millions. They've been "pursuing" this for years. Tim Cook needs to FOCUS on actually being CEO.
The CPU on a mobile device is always "throttled" in a way. This one is just one more factor, that aims in preventing shutdown of the device. The most frequent "throttling" is related to heat.
I think you understand i’m speaking about lithium batteries that are no longer healthy, more specifically, batteries that purportedly are left on the charger all night, still are not charged 100%, and the device feels hot to the touch in the morning. I believe it may relate to the screens that supposedly “pop” off. I’m only going off of what I’ve read here, as I haven’t made the purchase yet.
Not sure why people now want thin and less bezel. Plenty of regular watches with much larger bezels and even thicker than the current AW. And there are regular watches with much larger sizes than the 42mm AW. My 42mm S2 seems big compared to the smaller AW, but it's a bit on the smaller side compared to the typical watches for men.
My wish is for a round face AW.
My wish is for a round face AW.
So, you're going off things you saw online... You do know Apple mostly replaced those watches.
If the screen pops out, your battery is screwed beyond just throttling. Usually happens when the battery is really old or
defective. The popping is way better than not popping and having the battery rip and catch fire.
The watch's battery has pretty poor cooling compared to even the phone, it's exposed to sun, humidity, people took showers with the S0-1 and even swum with them not even rated for water!
Despite all that, the issue of popping the screen due to the swelling battery is relatively rare. The internet does amplify all those things like an echo chamber though. Right now, the SOC in the watch is not a very high performance one, doubt it needs throttling because it's not getting enough power unless the battery is nearly dead anyway (would only happen if the battery is defective from the start or 3-4 years down the road).
Also, if you wait long enough and store the battery empty (or let the device run till its empty), almost every lithium battery will swell. Long term storage requires checking the battery function and possibly topping the battery once in a while.