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If I worked in an Apple Store then you are exactly the sort I customer I would want to see coming through the door. For my own purchases I am very very much against annual upgrades, especially with the Watch. :)

I know I remember your posts in the iPhone upgrade threads. :D

I didn't upgrade my iPad Pro this year!
 
They don’t.

Me too. Why suffer the stress of an Apple Store when you can order online? That’s my thinking anyway.

Now that is good to hear! If you remember them, I’ve done something right
Yeah i hate going town period. Online is such a good way via apple. Their return policy when needed is top draw as well and very easy. They send everything you need and just go down to my local drop off point and it’s sorted. Can’t remember last time i went into an apple store maybe a year ago.
 
Yeah i hate going town period. Online is such a good way via apple. Their return policy when needed is top draw as well and very easy. They send everything you need and just go down to my local drop off point and it’s sorted. Can’t remember last time i went into an apple store maybe a year ago.
The last time I went in to one was when my wife's AW S2 died about this time last year. The staff were great but looking around and the store is like an out of control circus. Teens hanging around in groups playing on all the iPhones and iPads, small children diving on the bean bags and screaming the place down, and a 5 person deep queue around the Genius bar!! An absolute nightmare lol. I've only ever bought one device direct from Apple and that was online, my S5 AW.
 
Yeah i hate going town period. Online is such a good way via apple. Their return policy when needed is top draw as well and very easy. They send everything you need and just go down to my local drop off point and it’s sorted. Can’t remember last time i went into an apple store maybe a year ago.

Agreed. The only time I go to the Apple Store is if I do an in-store pickup. I only do that if it's faster that getting something shipped to my home.
 
I could see Apple having a watchface store exclusively for the 6 and models after that....just to tempt people to upgrade if the new hardware isn’t that significantly upgraded.
 
I wish they had an upgrade program like the iPhone does.

It’s one of those products that doesn’t have a huge demand for annual upgrades much like the iPad so I can’t see that being worth while for Apple. Although annual upgrades on the iPhone is a minority of users, it’s must be significant enough to warrant the leasing program.
 
Hello all,

I am a series 1 owner and I am ready to jump and get a new watch. Contemplating on just getting the series 5 but should I jump? I am a bit worried in regards to these battery issues. My Series one I use it constantly - limited on how it is- still use it a lot. Do you believe the series 6 would be such a dramatic change from series 5?

Who cares what anyone "believes" at this point? It's all rumor and guesswork. No one knows except Apple, and Apple ain't talking.

If you're ready to jump, then jump! Coming from a Series 0, I'm here to tell you that the Series 5 is amazing. If you don't mind waiting six months (or more... we don't know what delays this virus situation might impose) then you can wait and see, and maybe score a Series 5 at a big discount if the new model is not compelling to you. Although there are some attractive deals right now...
 
Did Apple say the processor is more efficient? Don't the S4 and S5 have an identical processor?
I needed to prove I'm not crazy LOL as I was sure I'd read the S5 had a more efficient processor.

This is where that thought came from - S5 Wikipedia page (not saying this stuff is true - just - this is why I thought the processor was more efficient):

"It includes an always-on display with energy-saving LTPO OLED screen and low-power screen driver capable of refresh rates as low as once per second. Additional new features include International Emergency Calling enabling emergency calls in over 150 countries, a more energy-efficient S5 processor, improved ambient light sensor, doubling of storage to 32 GB, and the addition of a magnetometer, enabling a compass function."
 
It’s one of those products that doesn’t have a huge demand for annual upgrades much like the iPad so I can’t see that being worth while for Apple. Although annual upgrades on the iPhone is a minority of users, it’s must be significant enough to warrant the leasing program.

Your first sentence I would totally disagree with. We wouldn’t know that there’s ‘not a demand for annual upgrades for the Apple Watch’, because it’s never been offered before. What if it was? That probably would change the aspect in terms of consumers how they ration their money. There is a huge demand for the Apple Watch, And an upgrade plan probably would be suitable for those who do consider having the latest model, (As the wearables sector growth has been substantial over the last 18 months from Apple.) The problem is, how does Apple create an upgrade plan for an Apple Watch for an ‘accessory’ to the iPhone. The iPhone is a ‘core product’ that sees mandatory usage on a daily basis, where as the Apple Watch Certainly has the demand, but doesn’t require to be upgraded when it’s still a superfluous tech item, as the iPhone is a crucial piece of technology to every day usage.
 
My girl and I both have Apple Watches, and one gets to upgrade. I have an S4 now, and she upgraded her S3 to S5, so it's my turn now :p I'm happy with my S4's battery. I charge it every evening when watching tv or playing on the Playstation and it always has 30+% left. Just hope the S6 can sport the batterylife with an always on display...
 
Your first sentence I would totally disagree with. We wouldn’t know that there’s ‘not a demand for annual upgrades for the Apple Watch’, because it’s never been offered before. What if it was? That probably would change the aspect in terms of consumers how they ration their money. There is a huge demand for the Apple Watch, And an upgrade plan probably would be suitable for those who do consider having the latest model, (As the wearables sector growth has been substantial over the last 18 months from Apple.) The problem is, how does Apple create an upgrade plan for an Apple Watch for an ‘accessory’ to the iPhone. The iPhone is a ‘core product’ that sees mandatory usage on a daily basis, where as the Apple Watch Certainly has the demand, but doesn’t require to be upgraded when it’s still a superfluous tech item, as the iPhone is a crucial piece of technology to every day usage.
I'm commenting really from personal experience as we all do as Apple doesn't give away figures for the Watch. I know a lot of people now who have gotten an AW, but not anybody personally that upgrades every year. It feels like one of those devices that is kept longer like iPads as there is little reason to change them so often. They certainly look much the same year on year. The problem with the watch is its not a device locked in to a contract like a phone so is more suited to Apples 24 month interest free finance plan they are currently marketing I would say.
 
Just a question. Is the Apple Watch that big of an influence in your life that warrants a yearly upgrade cycle? When I see people upgrade almost yearly, especially SS, makes me scratch my head. Are you on Tim’s holiday card mailer? hey it’s your money, but just curious.
 
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Just a question. Is the Apple Watch that big of an influence in your life that warrants a yearly upgrade cycle? When I see people upgrade almost yearly, especially SS, makes me scratch my head. Are you on Tim’s holiday card mailer? hey it’s your money, but just curious.

I like new things. It makes me happy. I have the money to do so. It's one of the few things I spoil myself on: tech. So I enjoy it and look forward to it.
 
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It seems a lot of people are talking about the battery life on the proposed Series 6 watch, concerned over sleep tracking. I have a series 4, and have been using a 3rd party sleep tracker since I got the watch, without much of a dent in battery tracking at all. However, I did have, and have subsequently sold a Garmin Fenix 6 Pro that had SpO2 (Blood Oxygen) monitoring, and I can say that it takes a tremendous hit on battery life. Without that turned on, I could get 5 days at most out of the watch, and by simply turning that feature off, I would get almost 10 days. I would be more concerned about the apparent inclusion of the SpO2 monitoring than sleep tracking at this point. Unless it will only monitor very intermittently. The SpO2 monitoring came in real handy for me when I had a bout with pneumonia earlier this year, and could see where my oxygen content was.
 
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It‘s very simple, actually, I think. Every new Watch generation has 1-2 „tentpole“ new feature(s) and the upgrade question/decision basically only depends on how important that/these new feature(s) is/are to you personally.

AW2: much faster (much more usable) than S0 + brighter screen (better visibility in bright daylight).
AW3: cellular.
AW4: redesign with larger screen (smaller bezels) + ECG.
AW5: always on display.
AW6: ??

The Series 3 and 5 were particulary polarizing as cellular function as well as the AOD were game-changers for some people, for other people they didn‘t matter at all.
 
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My girl and I both have Apple Watches, and one gets to upgrade. I have an S4 now, and she upgraded her S3 to S5, so it's my turn now :p I'm happy with my S4's battery. I charge it every evening when watching tv or playing on the Playstation and it always has 30+% left. Just hope the S6 can sport the batterylife with an always on display...

When I went from S4 to S5 the battery life was horrendous at first. Thank goodness they sorted that out. Now I don't notice any difference from what my S4 was like for holding a charge. The always on display is great.
 
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AW5 is my first, and so far loving it. With the right features added to 6, I'd upgrade in a second. As I had feared I have not worn any of my traditional watches once since getting the AW. Battery life alone won't get me to switch as I easily make it through the day, but sleep tracking, blood pressure or some other cool feature would do it.
 
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