Apple Watch series 5 - what can we expect and when?

[Akrapovic]

I wear my Watch in bed. I use the alarm on the watch to wake me up. It vibrates but doesn't give an audible alarm. This wakes me up, but not my partner. She sleeps in an extra 2-3 hours after me due to work. The Watch has been amazing for alarms.

Sleep tracking...yeah sure. Sounds fine I guess. I used to use Sleep Cycle on the phone years ago. If the AW could have that built in so it woke me at a good time then I'd use it.

But...I still want more faces. Even if they're Apple designed ones. Weekly releases of Watch Face packs. On the AppStore like stickers. 99p a time. I'd buy them every damn week.

 

[PBz]

I wear my Watch in bed. I use the alarm on the watch to wake me up. It vibrates but doesn't give an audible alarm. This wakes me up, but not my partner. She sleeps in an extra 2-3 hours after me due to work. The Watch has been amazing for alarms.

Sleep tracking...yeah sure. Sounds fine I guess. I used to use Sleep Cycle on the phone years ago. If the AW could have that built in so it woke me at a good time then I'd use it.

But...I still want more faces. Even if they're Apple designed ones. Weekly releases of Watch Face packs. On the AppStore like stickers. 99p a time. I'd buy them every damn week.

A cool one would be ActiFace.. good data but not a flood like some of the Garmin watch faces..

.. yes, I am hairy guy..
.. before the step-hate comes.. did 10 miles on the bike.. no step credit there.

https://imgur.com/a/D4XsRZy

 

[Akrapovic]

A cool one would be ActiFace.. good data but not a flood like some of the Garmin watch faces..

.. yes, I am hairy guy..
.. before the step-hate comes.. did 10 miles on the bike.. no step credit there.

https://imgur.com/a/D4XsRZy

I feel like Apple is a trillion dollar company. They can hire 5 designers to knock out 5 watch faces a week. Sell them as packs. Apple only so there’s no copyright issues. 99p a time. On millions of devices you’d easily make their back.

 

[twisted-pixel]

I would love customer sounds for apps...would help me decide which 'dings' to ignore and which not to.

 

[Toonartist]

Software updates. Fine with the hardware as is.

Would like to see the integration of FirstBeat data that is used on Garmin devices. Things like recovery time, Anaerobic & Aerobic workout scores, more accurate VO2 max, Running dynamics stride length, Vertical Oscillation / Ratio etc.

Also, allow external bluetooth sensors such as Stryd, Speed & Cadence for bikes. Stryd you can use their app but if the device could connect directly, the data could be available to other apps as well.

It would be good if there was an option to allow an always on display. I tend to carry my iPhone when out running so it uses the phone GPS and even after running for 3hrs there is always 50%-60% battery. It would be handy just to switch on when needed.

 

[44267547]

It would be good if there was an option to allow an always on display. I tend to carry my iPhone when out running so it uses the phone GPS and even after running for 3hrs there is always 50%-60% battery. It would be handy just to switch on when needed.

The reason I believe Apple is not allowing for an always on display, is because for three reasons:

1.) Image retention (Or ‘Burn in’) would be likely with the OLED panel.

2.) Battery efficiency. I think the Apple Watch being rated 18 hours is conservative, but I think that rating would drop if it had an always on display, which is likely why Apple is not utilizing that specific option.

3.) With ‘raise to wake’ being so efficient, I would say the majority don’t care about an always on display, simply because of how fluid that feature is.

 

[Toonartist]

The reason I believe Apple is not allowing for an always on display, is because for three reasons:

1.) Image retention (Or ‘Burn in’) would be likely with the OLED panel.

2.) Battery efficiency. I think the Apple Watch being rated 18 hours is conservative, but I think that rating would drop if it had an always on display, which is likely why Apple is not utilizing that specific option.

3.) With ‘raise to wake’ being so efficient, I would say the majority don’t care about an always on display, simply because of how fluid that feature is.

Most likely... for me it would have been a nice have but far from essential.

My main "Would Likes" are all about stats and sensors. FirstBeats being the most important as this would mean I could leave off the Fenix 5 for all but the bikes... and if Apple gave us Speed and Cadence sensors then it would be dropped altogether.

Apples optical HR sensor is way better than the Fenix 5 which has never been reliable enough. I use their HRM Run (with Garmin) which has the extra benefit of the running metrics but if they allowed Stryd sensor connection to AW that would provide those details and I could stop using the heart strap. The AW4 is so close to being the ideal choice, just a few tweaks here and there (software wise).

 

[oeagleo]

Software updates. Fine with the hardware as is.

Would like to see the integration of FirstBeat data that is used on Garmin devices. Things like recovery time, Anaerobic & Aerobic workout scores, more accurate VO2 max, Running dynamics stride length, Vertical Oscillation / Ratio etc.

Also, allow external bluetooth sensors such as Stryd, Speed & Cadence for bikes. Stryd you can use their app but if the device could connect directly, the data could be available to other apps as well.

It would be good if there was an option to allow an always on display. I tend to carry my iPhone when out running so it uses the phone GPS and even after running for 3hrs there is always 50%-60% battery. It would be handy just to switch on when needed.

EXACTLY! These things would make the AW complete, in my opinion. The fact that I can't take "rest" days for fear of breaking my "ring streak", I can't use my bike's speed/cadence sensors, and tracking of the Anaerobic, and Aerobic training effect would be great.

 

[Toonartist]

EXACTLY! These things would make the AW complete, in my opinion. The fact that I can't take "rest" days for fear of breaking my "ring streak", I can't use my bike's speed/cadence sensors, and tracking of the Anaerobic, and Aerobic training effect would be great.

If they had a system that monitored recovery time, the system could take a lower % of your normal Active Calorie goal so that it not only motivates you to do exercise but also to help you not over train. It would be easy enough to do... provide they used Recovery Time.

 

[PaladinGuy]

If they had a system that monitored recovery time, the system could take a lower % of your normal Active Calorie goal so that it not only motivates you to do exercise but also to help you not over train. It would be easy enough to do... provide they used Recovery Time.

This would be awesome, but I’m afraid most Apple Watch users are very unhealthy and are just trying to stand up and walk more. They’re probably not worried about overtraining. They’re worried about obesity and heart attacks, I’d imagine (not to sound rude).

 

[oeagleo]

This would be awesome, but I’m afraid most Apple Watch users are very unhealthy and are just trying to stand up and walk more. They’re probably not worried about overtraining. They’re worried about obesity and heart attacks, I’d imagine (not to sound rude).

True that, I've seen on the Facebook pages some of the activities, and they honestly range from those just starting out, to those who are doing marathons. Possibly an optional, or an included app/activity field that may, or may not show depending on what you want/need? At any rate, the every day activity just for the rings really needs to be looked at. Even the obese need to take it easy for a while sometimes. They can over train or over tax their heart too.

 

[Toonartist]

This would be awesome, but I’m afraid most Apple Watch users are very unhealthy and are just trying to stand up and walk more. They’re probably not worried about overtraining. They’re worried about obesity and heart attacks, I’d imagine (not to sound rude).

I've posted it to "Apple Watch" as a suggestion... FirstBeat, Recovery Time and other metrics along with the way recovery time could work with Active Calories ring... promoting a fitter healthier routine It may get looked at... but then again!

 

[StumpyBloke]

...most Apple Watch users are very unhealthy...

Show me those statistics would you please?

 

[MasterControlOp]

I wear my Watch in bed. I use the alarm on the watch to wake me up. It vibrates but doesn't give an audible alarm. This wakes me up, but not my partner. She sleeps in an extra 2-3 hours after me due to work. The Watch has been amazing for alarms.

Sleep tracking...yeah sure. Sounds fine I guess. I used to use Sleep Cycle on the phone years ago. If the AW could have that built in so it woke me at a good time then I'd use it.

But...I still want more faces. Even if they're Apple designed ones. Weekly releases of Watch Face packs. On the AppStore like stickers. 99p a time. I'd buy them every damn week.

When do you charge it?

 

[Akrapovic]

When do you charge it?

When I’m sitting at my desk at home.

If I go to bed with 100% battery then I tend to wake up with 95%. I’m out at work from 0600-1700. If I don’t do a run during the day I tend to have 70% battery left by the time I’m home. If I do a run I usually have 55% battery once I’m home. I get home and charge it whilst I sit at home. Takes under an hour to charge it back up so it can be done without having a big effect on activity rings. I’ve usually closed all 3 by the time I’m home anyway.

 

[PBz]

The reason I believe Apple is not allowing for an always on display, is because for three reasons:

1.) Image retention (Or ‘Burn in’) would be likely with the OLED panel.

2.) Battery efficiency. I think the Apple Watch being rated 18 hours is conservative, but I think that rating would drop if it had an always on display, which is likely why Apple is not utilizing that specific option.

3.) With ‘raise to wake’ being so efficient, I would say the majority don’t care about an always on display, simply because of how fluid that feature is.

Raise to Wake has gotten really good. I know I have to turn it off when I driving long trips as I can see it come on over and over and over...

 

[The Game 161]

They never seen to be any rumors for the watches like the phones so mainly more of a surprise...

 

[Monkswhiskers]

I've posted it to "Apple Watch" as a suggestion... FirstBeat, Recovery Time and other metrics along with the way recovery time could work with Active Calories ring... promoting a fitter healthier routine It may get looked at... but then again!

This^
I am looking to buy a Garmin 645 because of this, I am reticent as I don't think considering the price that Garmin's gps is that much better (Fenix5, awful!).
Would be great if AW did this, I guess they would have to pay Firstbeat to use it of course, so hey Apple... just buy Firstbeat

 

[44267547]

They never seen to be any rumors for the watches like the phones so mainly more of a surprise...

That’s because there is few components to leak with an Apple Watch versus a product like an iPhone or iPad. Not to mention, there’s only one real major supplier(Quanta Computer) for the Apple Watch, which leaves a lot less room for leaks/rumors considering the suppliers for the iPhone.

 

[technole]

Anything for sleep tracking is probably an instant buy, whether it's better battery or hardware. Remember Apple bought a sleep tracking company and still sell the bed tracker.

I’d like to see stainless steel without lte… I know it’s never going to happen.

There is no point, because it has sapphire crystal and the beginning price for any watch with that is $500+.

 

[Significant1]

The reason I believe Apple is not allowing for an always on display, is because for three reasons:

1.) Image retention (Or ‘Burn in’) would be likely with the OLED panel.

2.) Battery efficiency. I think the Apple Watch being rated 18 hours is conservative, but I think that rating would drop if it had an always on display, which is likely why Apple is not utilizing that specific option.

3.) With ‘raise to wake’ being so efficient, I would say the majority don’t care about an always on display, simply because of how fluid that feature is.

1. It doesn't have to be static
2. If you turn of the display and dial slowly on the crown, you can see the display actually can display very low level of lights and if I am not mistaken Samsung galaxy actually has a form of dim allways on option
3. Raise to wake is just not good enough. If you are doing exercising using your arms, it can be difficult to activate. Also a watch is not just utility, but also jewelry and currently it what people see you are wearing is a black screen.

Having had watches with e-ink, I must say I really miss always-on. Just some kind of manual control, so it can be enabled for the duration of a workout. And I wouldn't mind if it was a layer of e-ink on top of normal, like some other smartwatch does.

 

[Akrapovic]

The phone has the Battery section in the settings where it tells you what apps and features are using your battery. The screen tends to be a very high percentage of that. I don't believe the watch has anything like this does it? So it's hard to know how much additional strain an always-on screen would put on the battery.

I still want faces. This is the low hanging fruit Apple should capitalise on.

 

[PaladinGuy]

Show me those statistics would you please?

Valid question. I should say that the majority of people I know with them are not very healthy/fit.

Overall, I’d wager that it’s safe to say the vast majority of Apple Watch owners are not serious athletes or people tracking advanced fitness metrics. I’m obviously making a guess from observations. I have no data to back that up.

 

[44267547]

Valid question. I should say that the majority of people I know with them are not very healthy/fit.

Overall, I’d wager that it’s safe to say the vast majority of Apple Watch owners are not serious athletes or people tracking advanced fitness metrics. I’m obviously making a guess from observations. I have no data to back that up.

I would agree. Mainly because the Apple Watch really is intended to be for anyone of age, gender, etc. to use the watch, and Apple made it simplistic enough where it’s geared towards be more of a dynamic offering various workout segments for swimming, running, ect. I would say the more ‘serious’ triathlon/long range runners are probably using a Garmin Or Suunto, which is not to say the Apple Watch couldn’t be used for those situations, but the battery life and core statistics seem somewhat more detailed over the Apple Watch.

 

[oeagleo]

I would agree. Mainly because the Apple Watch really is intended to be for anyone of age, gender, etc. to use the watch, and Apple made it simplistic enough where it’s geared towards be more of a dynamic offering various workout segments for swimming, running, ect. I would say the more ‘serious’ triathlon/long range runners are probably using a Garmin Or Suunto, which is not to say the Apple Watch couldn’t be used for those situations, but the battery life and core statistics seem somewhat more detailed over the Apple Watch.

I have both a fenix 5+, and an AW4, and can tell you that the only difference in the metrics is generally the "Firstbeat Technology" stuff, Training effect, recovery time, etc. Mostly, when both activities are imported into something like Runanalyze, most of the same "blanks" are filled in, at least for strength, walking, running, (No cadence metrics, but simple cadence is there), and on a bike ride, not sure, haven't been out yet this year, but I do know the AW won't hook up to my speed and cadence sensors on the bike, nor will it acknowledge the Power part of my PowerCal Chest strap. Otherwise, unless one is a professional athlete (which I'm not), or a complete data junkie (which I am), there's very little difference between the two. I do know that I can take the AW on a "Mall walk" and get accurate HR data, but with the fenix, I have to use the Polar OH1 Optical sensor for accurate HR data. I also can attest that that GPS tracks on the AW are much smoother, than on the Fenix, but I suspect that's due to some internal manipulation going in within the Apple Watch itself. Just what I've found, I like both.