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Apple Watch series 5 - what can we expect and when?
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I’d like to see stainless steel without lte… I know it’s never going to happen.
Can’t say I agree with this. In terms of the watch, you can never have enough battery life, and even though Apple rates the watch at 18 hours, it can be extended past that with the right setting adjustments. Either way, I would say the number one request for the Apple Watch over anything else I have ever read, would definitely be more battery life, given that it’s such a small battery to begin with in the watch.
If iPhone can charge the watch's small battery like Samsung phones can, then it would be useful for a lot of people.
I have over 50% left at the end of the day.
[doublepost=1550984206][/doublepost]I want faster CPU. It takes forever to load anything. I want my watch speed to keep up with the speed of the phone.
It will be an incremental update at most. Pretty happy with my 4. Maybe in two years we could see something major.
With the Series 4, this is one area that is not lacking, is with faster load times, less lag and more fluid opening/closing third-party applications. A faster processor is actually the last thing that I would be requesting for the Series 5, especially given how much it’s improved over the last three generations.
well, Siri on my AW4 is laggy sometimes. On the phone Siri is never laggy. This is only one example.
and it takes forever to load a website when I click on a link from my email.
To be fair I never press website links on my watch, but everything else is butter smooth - Siri might be a hair more responsive on my iPhone, but it’s not hindering my use of it. On my S2 prior to upgrading everything was slow and gave me enough waiting times that I just didn’t use any of the features any more
I think perhaps, this may be a hint as to an "upgrade" worthy of tempting new buyers, and some upgrade folk. Internal Sleep Tracking? Hardware based?
https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/26/repo...Sf3KfsyNkDum6PpqNYiMNy4gxctxP4h420hGxY1PPQRtg
https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/26/repo...Sf3KfsyNkDum6PpqNYiMNy4gxctxP4h420hGxY1PPQRtg
This might be one of those features where Apple says Apple Watch 5 can do it but the software won't be available until 2020. Now if they are talking speed in order for the "app" to collect data, then they may limit it to Apple Watch 4 and 5. However, it's to early to make that call yet. It's pretty obvious this is a feature people want but they don't know what to do with the results. And that's where Apple will have the most work. They'll have to sell people on the reporting data aspect. I personally stopped using sleep monitoring applications on the watch because they all have one major issue, memory leaks. No one is perfect but a lot of them push the limit of reporting time and collect, collect, collect and at the end of the day some give you a nice report with all the data, others filter it so much it is as if nothing was really collected. This is why I really feel whatever Apple does will be specifically application based but also based on the speed of the device to allow collection/reporting to be much better then what is currently being offered.
Front page article already posted:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...king-features-to-apple-watch-by-2020.2171315/
Regardless, quite a few members have made a good point, do you really want to wear your Apple Watch while sleeping? I know I don’t, as I generally find that not to be necessarily comfortable, unless I really wanted to track my sleep if I was concerned about irregularity and/or consistency, then I probably already would have invested in another wearable of some sort, being sleep monitoring really isn’t anything new, unless Apple has a specific or unique way of how they will implement their sleep tracking, which is rumored in 2022 to debut.
So, if the sleep tracking is going to be added then Apple will need to really step up the battery life to cope with really active folks who are going to burn the power on that and can't just set the watch aside every few hours in the day when they need to be wearing it to catch up.
OMG though, I just had a thought.... .what if the airpower delays were because Apple is launching an Airpower MATTRESS!!!
OMG though, I just had a thought.... .what if the airpower delays were because Apple is launching an Airpower MATTRESS!!!
Hahahaha, that’s a good one.So, if the sleep tracking is going to be added then Apple will need to really step up the battery life to cope with really active folks who are going to burn the power on that and can't just set the watch aside every few hours in the day when they need to be wearing it to catch up.
OMG though, I just had a thought.... .what if the airpower delays were because Apple is launching an Airpower MATTRESS!!!
Sleep tracking is something that I use and value. And I’ve learnt a lot from using sleep tracking. For a health and fitness device to be of any real value then surely it must be able to monitor an activity that takes up around one third of a persons day. OK, maybe some of you can get away with just 2 hours sleep I find the Apple Watch so comfortable that during sleep I don’t notice it’s there.
Sleep is something that’s still not yet fully understood but it’s certainly virtual for peoples health. My mother died of a sudden heart attack while she was sleeping. There was no warning, she was fit and healthy for her age. Never smoked and never drank to excess. My GP was concerned that it might in some way be hereditary and has been monitoring my heart condition, blood pressure etc. So far I seem to be fine. Although out of interest I did get an elevated heart rate warning about 6 months ago form my watch whilst I was in deep sleep. My GP took an interest but for the time being put it down to a one off, possibly a bad dream. But because of personal history I do feel more comfortable wearing my Watch during sleep.
If an New Apple Watch came out with some significant improvement in sleep tracking I’d buy it in an instant.
I find the Apple Watch so comfortable that during sleep I don’t notice it’s there.Sleep is something that’s still not yet fully understood but it’s certainly virtual for peoples health. My mother died of a sudden heart attack while she was sleeping. There was no warning, she was fit and healthy for her age. Never smoked and never drank to excess. My GP was concerned that it might in some way be hereditary and has been monitoring my heart condition, blood pressure etc. So far I seem to be fine. Although out of interest I did get an elevated heart rate warning about 6 months ago form my watch whilst I was in deep sleep. My GP took an interest but for the time being put it down to a one off, possibly a bad dream. But because of personal history I do feel more comfortable wearing my Watch during sleep.
If an New Apple Watch came out with some significant improvement in sleep tracking I’d buy it in an instant.
I have a hard time seeing how they be able to add significant enough battery life to implement sleep tracking. I’d be interested in it, but I just don’t see it happening.
If we’re talking about 2-3 battery life, that might be more annoying than helpful. I exercise an hour or more every day, which means I’d end up having it die on me (I’d think).
If we’re talking about 2-3 battery life, that might be more annoying than helpful. I exercise an hour or more every day, which means I’d end up having it die on me (I’d think).
Sleep monitoring is definitely coming, as specifically rumored by Bloomberg with a recent article listed below. It’s all down to the efficiency of the processor, that’s exactly where the battery life is managed, every year, the processor becomes more efficient, allowing for far more extended battery life past the 18 hour rating that Apple even has it listed with setting tweaks. It’s very possible the Apple Watch can achieve sleep monitoring, and if the rumor proves to be true by 2020, that’s _two_generation Apple Watches away, anything can happen by then.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/02/26/apple-testing-sleep-tracking-feature-apple-watch/amp/
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It obviously depends on your day and how you use your watch. But after a full day and night of sleep tracking I have between 45-50% of battery life left in the morning.
I then charge in the morning whilst I’m having a shower, getting my daughter ready for school & getting ready for work. With another hour-ish of charging it’ll be fully charged, or within a few percent of being charged.
So for me I don’t see the issue. But of course a little extra battery life would be better as my Watch would only need a boost on the charger in the morning.
I also have a feeling that if Apple implemented their own sleep tracking they’d find a way of making very battery efficient. Certainly compared to third party offerings.
I honestly don't understand the "concern" about battery life for sleep tracking. I use a couple of different sleep tracking apps, and charge my watch in the mornings, and it's rarely down far at all, usually >60% battery life left. Unless Apple would implement some "battery chewing" algorithm in their "tracking" section, it shouldn't affect battery life much at all. It's already out there, and being used by 3rd parties, so explain how Apple redundantly including this in the watch would affect the battery more than the 3rd party apps?
I think, as others said, it depends on your usage patterns. If you’re using the watch for an hour or more of exercising each day, you use much more battery, especially if you’re using GPS. Also, if you’re wanting accurate resting heart rate readings and such, it’s beneficial to not take the watch off while awake.
Yeah, in fairness, if I'm going to do an activity that involves GPS, then the Fenix 5+ comes out, and generally also when I am doing an activity that would result in a Training Effect score, or recovery time, things that Apple just hasn't figured out yet. I'm a data hound, and the metrics of the Garmin simply cannot be beat with an Apple Watch, but I still like the AW for everyday wear.
I expect we will hear more about glucose monitoring in 2020. I don’t necessarily think it’s going to be ready during that year, but I think the rumors will start to flourish specifically about this feature, which will likely be groundbreaking on many different levels.
Never had a lag problem with an app on my S4 and Siri is instant. If I raise my wrist and ask Siri to switch on the driveway light halfway down the road, she sends the command instantly and the light comes on right away.
My ‘wish list’:
Hardware:
- Two physical buttons on the left side. Swiping while sweaty and wet isn’t fun.
- 4+ days of battery life, even if that means going into a minimal mode with maybe monochrome time on the display
- ANT+ - I would like to use my AW with things like the Peloton bike. The HRM is REALLY good.
- 10 hours of GPS mode (skiing, hiking, etc.)
Software:
- Ability to put complications to sleep during a certain time. I sleep with my watches for the sleep metrics. HR is important to me. However, notifications and all the refreshing of the complications could be turned off for almost half the day for me.
- More data fields in core exercise/activities. Combine more battery life with running/cycling/etc metrics and Apple could take a bite out of Garmin market share. With the AW you can get a lot of these metrics but having them in a centralized location (Activity app). An example would be HR zones by activity. THe Zones app offers this but with Garmin you can see your HR zone (even customize them by activity) while you are exercising, after you finish the activity in the Garmin app and even ON the watch in the Activity History.
- Clean up/organize the Health app. It seems like things are never in the same place. I know some days all don’t apply but even accounting for that it lacks consistency
- Activity history ON THE WATCH (with popular metrics)
[doublepost=1554915600][/doublepost]Random tip.. if you go on a long car ride and you are driving.. put your AW in Theater mode as steering makes the AW face come on a lot.
Hardware:
- Two physical buttons on the left side. Swiping while sweaty and wet isn’t fun.
- 4+ days of battery life, even if that means going into a minimal mode with maybe monochrome time on the display
- ANT+ - I would like to use my AW with things like the Peloton bike. The HRM is REALLY good.
- 10 hours of GPS mode (skiing, hiking, etc.)
Software:
- Ability to put complications to sleep during a certain time. I sleep with my watches for the sleep metrics. HR is important to me. However, notifications and all the refreshing of the complications could be turned off for almost half the day for me.
- More data fields in core exercise/activities. Combine more battery life with running/cycling/etc metrics and Apple could take a bite out of Garmin market share. With the AW you can get a lot of these metrics but having them in a centralized location (Activity app). An example would be HR zones by activity. THe Zones app offers this but with Garmin you can see your HR zone (even customize them by activity) while you are exercising, after you finish the activity in the Garmin app and even ON the watch in the Activity History.
- Clean up/organize the Health app. It seems like things are never in the same place. I know some days all don’t apply but even accounting for that it lacks consistency
- Activity history ON THE WATCH (with popular metrics)
[doublepost=1554915600][/doublepost]Random tip.. if you go on a long car ride and you are driving.. put your AW in Theater mode as steering makes the AW face come on a lot.