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It was going to be my first Apple Watch. Maybe the Series 8 will be? ;)
Skip series 8!

Really, there will always be new things coming in new versions, just jump on when you are ready to ride and don’t worry about waiting for the perfect version. It’s never perfect for long.
 
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when/if Apple gets reliable Blood glucose monitoring, that might make this device actually worth it. I'd likely get one then. maybe Apple Watch 12 ? :cool:
 
These articles are always full of so much unreliable intel and we need to take all the rumors with a grain of salt. However, the old man rant I do have about Apple Watch (as a fitness enthusiast) is that it is well documented that the heart rate monitor cannot handle big spikes or jumps in heart rate while exercising/working out, most notably while running. I have read and found countless threads commenting on how the Apple Watch cannot pick up a heart rate reading while running even at low intensities (in some cases a brisk walk) or doing high-intensity workouts. Many believe the Apple Watch (all series models) cannot handle the 'arm swinging motion' while running and working out as it appears to significantly reduce heart rate tracking and accuracy (even if the watch is snug on your wrist)....or maybe, more interesting, the heart rate monitor degrades over time (not sure if I buy that, but some people believe it does, maybe after 5 years of use!?). I say all of this as Apple has not addressed this basic issue, which plagues Apple Watch starting with the brand new Series 7 all the way back to Series 1. I, therefore, cannot and won't regard the Apple Watch as a reliable fitness or health device (I have a Series 4). It seems Garmin, Coros, Suunto, FitBit do NOT have this issue from the research I've done (which has been quite a bit). I guess in conclusion the Apple Watch is what it should always be marketed as....a 'smart' watch, NOT a fitness or health watch/wearable, but Apple definitely tries to label it as a fantastic fitness and health wearable. My old man on his porch rant is done for the day for whatever the hell it is worth! ?
 
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I’m still holding my breath for a classic round.

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Anyone interested in an even larger watch face?
I was really concerned about the shift to 38–40 for my S4 and then from 40–41mm for my S7. It's not awful, but I really hope they don't keep drifting up in sizes like they have with the phones. As a guy with slender wrists, I don't want an oversized-looking and obtrusive watch on my wrist (it's the only product Apple makes that ideally would be thinner, though at present I don't want to sacrifice battery life to do it!) and I imagine a lot of women feel the same, especially since Apple is one of the few making a smaller-sized watch.

In other words, if they make a larger watch face, make it the larger model, don't keep boosting the smaller one up as well.
 
I will only upgrade my next apple watch when they improve the battery to charge only once a week at most.
 
So never…

In our dreams maybe. I’d love that to happen, but I think it’s 100% impossible with lithium ion batteries. There will have to be a huge technology breakthrough for a week of battery life with the Apple Watch. It consumes too much power for that. Im thinking 2-3 days is about the most we can expect for a while.
 
hmmm - looking at the direction the iPhones, the iPads, and not the Watches have been going, all I see in the foreseeable future, is PERHAPS 2-3 days. We want small, fast, and long battery lifes - pick two!
 
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In our dreams maybe. I’d love that to happen, but I think it’s 100% impossible with lithium ion batteries. There will have to be a huge technology breakthrough for a week of battery life with the Apple Watch. It consumes too much power for that. Im thinking 2-3 days is about the most we can expect for a while.
Turning off the AOD on my S7 comes out to almost two full days with regular usage (notifications + around 100 minutes of fitness tracking a day.) I'm totally happy with that as if I forget to charge it I've got wiggle room to get through the next day no problem.

I definitely think 4-5+ days of regular usage would need to be the next threshold to reach, otherwise there's too much variance in what people use it for and charging that I think most people would still just charge it every day. But at a fundamental level, it's a smartwatch, emphasis on the smart. We're likely decades away from being able to have this sophisticated device on your wrist where you only need to charge it every so often, and I think likely most people would rather have more power, more sensors, more capabilities rather than prioritizing battery life over every other choice. I'd also like it to get a bit more unobtrusive on my wrist and if the tradeoff is keeping the same battery life with more efficient parts, I'd definitely take it (the Watch is thicker now than when it first released.)
 
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My $300 Oura Ring provides sleep and health data that my Apple Watch 7 doesn't yet. I'd really like to see Oura and Apple-Watch link together for optimum data collection. My Oura with its iPhone app, for instance, tracks body temperature variation from my normal. I can, for instance, look back on my data to identify exactly when I had my last cold (I don't think it was covid - but not sure) along with its intensity and duration (degree of temperature variation from from my norm). The sleep tracking (the reason I bought it) tells me at any given time, exactly how much sleep I've had for a given 24 hour period, and includes such information as efficiency, restfulness, REM sleep, Deep sleep, Latency, Timing, and the like. The Oura also tracks calories burned (with walking equivalency), blood oxygen, heart rate throughout the day, heart rate variability .. all this can be tracked to any point in time. I'm sure Apple and Oura have talked about joining up to some degree. I'd really like to see it happen.

P.S. This down-to-earth article is truly appreciated. No hype - just good data.
 
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My $300 Oura Ring provides sleep and health data that my Apple Watch 7 doesn't yet. I'd really like to see Oura and Apple-Watch link together for optimum data collection. My Oura with its iPhone app, for instance, tracks body temperature variation from my normal. I can, for instance, look back on my data to identify exactly when I had my last cold (body temperature increase) along with its intensity and duration. Women use it for period tracking. The sleep tracking (the reason I bought it) tells me at any given time, exactly how much sleep I've had for a given 24 hour period, and includes such information as efficiency, restfulness, REM sleep, Deep sleep, Latency, Timing, and the like. The Oura also tracks calories burned (with walking equivalency), blood oxygen, heart rate throughout the day, heart rate variability .. all this at any point in time. I'm sure Apple and Oura have talked about joining up to some degree. I'd really like to see it happen.
I'd be shocked if they actually collaborated. If anything, I'd think Apple would consider buying them. I don't see that happening though.

I'd honestly just love to see Apple finally introduce recovery and rest into their fitness platform, as most other platforms have now done. I count sleep as being part of that.
 
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