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looks like the sandpaper works

(i mean, isn't that what it's designed to do?)

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also, the green stuff that he called steel wool.. that will scratch it too.
he got the bobo version but actual scotch brite will scratch the glass.
 
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This should be no surprise whatsoever as it is the exact same glass as the current iPhone. My phone has done fine with no screen protector and I have to think that the pocket is a much worse place than the wrist for sand paper like grit to cause damage.

The screen will be fine...

Yup, I have the iPhone 4, which has...what... the original version 1 Gorilla Glass? Not a single mark on it in all of these years.
 
Because it's lighter (ideal for the Sport) and less expensive (ideal for the Sport.)

Also "fail" is a verb. The word you're looking for is "failure" and even that is pushing it. The Sport is a failure because you can't scratch it with sandpaper? And why shouldn't they buy sapphire plants, exactly? That would have made it cheaper and, who knows, made it more readily available, so maybe it could have gone into the sport (making it somewhat heavier in the process, though.) GT Advance's screening of the pooch was their own fault.

But grasp at whatever allows you to diss on an Apple product for being an Apple product. There are probably about as many anti-fanboys as there are fanboys on this site. (Yeah yeah yeah, "I've bought Apple since the Apple II was out! Steve Jobs NEVER something something!")

I'm definitely looking to use the word FAIL. Fail is also a noun btw... Also, if you care to find the info, please let me know how much lighter/heavier the watch would be with both options. If you are "active" and wearing a sport watch, I doubt the extra weight of sapphire has anything to do with reality. What, a couple grams? Please.
 
If it's the same material as the iPhone 6, it will scratch up under normal use pretty quickly. Screen protector would be a must.

Based on your professional knowledge on this matter, do you think the iPhone 6 has harder glass than the iPhone 4? I have an iPhone 4 which I "use normally" and it doesn't have a single blemish on it. Maybe I'm not normal?
 
ok how is this at all bad?????? scraping sandpaper on your watch is akin to running your watch through on a concrete floor
not a common scenario at all.

It's sand that's the issue, not sandpaper. Sand is everywhere. It ends up in your pockets and scratches your iPhone.
 
Most are going to buy a new one every year so just buy the non sapphire one. These are not real timepieces like a Rolex or a Tag that come with sapphire crystal that do not depreciate. You will not be wearing gen 1 Apple watch in 5 years.
 
I'm sure even the simplest of utter simpletons would have worked out that STEEL wool would have STEEL in it... evidently not. If he can't even get THAT right, the chances of these components being genuine is rather dubious, if we're relying on his ability to discern things properly. :D

even then, modern abrasive pads have replaced steel wool and sandpaper has (moreorless) replaced metal grinding wheels.

sandpaper isn't made of what people think of as sand.
 
I would really like to see a new set of tests designed specifically for wearables. I can understand the coin/key/knife tests with phones, but how often are you going to be carrying your watch in your pocket with any of those things? And if there is a knife coming at your wrist you have a lot more to worry about than your watch getting scratched...

I would prefer to see how the glass and casing options hold up against door knobs, car door handles, those stupid metal buttons on the side of your jean pockets, etc.

While I am more likely to come in contact with sandpaper with my watch rather than my phone, I tend to keep my wrists away from sharp or abrasive surfaces.
 
Um, I've bashed my watch against concrete walls/pillars by mistake when I've brushed against them in garages etc. So yeah, actually it can be a common scenario.

I'm glad I ordered the SS model.

Umm....
None of your scenarios REMOTELY equate to scraping your watch with sandpaper. More like impact tests, which he mentioned... due to the flexibility, Ion-X glass excel at. I guess I don't get your point.
 
I always watch these frantically-scrape-the-key-on-the-screen videos and the devices always come out unscathed. Then I get them and my keys always end up scratching the screens. Could that be because these screens are lab clean and my screens have been pitted through normal use or have invisible dirt on them? These videos just seem to be of so little use.
 
Pardon the pun, but this is just scratching the surface. Wait until people with the stainless steel versions start complaining that their watches are getting scuffed and small scratches on the band. :rolleyes:

Many have never bought a high end timepiece but at first you try to play it safe and are really careful with it but after the first accidental bang into a door frame which produces your first battle scar you just stop caring. It adds to the character and history of the watch.
 
Umm....
None of your scenarios REMOTELY equate to scraping your watch with sandpaper. More like impact tests, which he mentioned... due to the flexibility, Ion-X glass excel at. I guess I don't get your point.

I don't believe for a second the Sport model will survive a scrape along a concrete wall.
 

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Based on your professional knowledge on this matter, do you think the iPhone 6 has harder glass than the iPhone 4? I have an iPhone 4 which I "use normally" and it doesn't have a single blemish on it. Maybe I'm not normal?

You are not the average person then.

The average person will most definitely get scratches on their phone and not be very careful with their phone.

I have have an iPhone 6 that is kept in an Apple Leather Case and managed to get a couple of small scratches here and there. I then attempted to go caseless and bam shattered screen.

2 months now and it is scratches thus far but no doubt there will be tiny scratches eventually.
 
I don't run around rubbing my wrists against sandpaper.

I'm not a clumsy dipwad who falls into concrete walls.

I bought AppleCare.

I'm not worried. I've been carrying my iPhone 6 Plus in my front pocket for six months now and it's fine too, because again... I'm not a clumsy dipwad.
 
No idea why Apple doesn't use sapphire on all watches. Kinda lame to me. Another reason this watch is a fail for me. Maybe they shouldn't buy sapphire plants going forward?

Heck, they should just make all of them gold too.
 
Doesn't sand paper have some tiny diamond-like crystals mixed in it.

Literal sandpaper would contain tiny specks of quartz, which has a hardness of 7 on the Mohs scale. Glass is 5.5, which is why sandpaper should scratch glass, although other minerals are used. Sapphire is a form of corundum, which has a 9 on the hardness scale. Diamond is 10, the hardest darn thing out there.

Sorry, those geology classes are expensive and I gotta use them somewhere. :)
 
I wish people realized that Watergate was the name of the hotel that the robbery took place in under Nixon's watch, and an event that had nothing to do with water at all.

Maybe then we'd gate less -gate this and -gate that stuff.

Edit: Yeah Yeah I get it, Watergate is synonymous with scandal.

Sadly, I bet most people have no idea what Watergate was even about. Or what impeachment really means. It's historygate at its worst.
 
I'm no expert, is a concrete wall as strong as the sandpaper he used? Would it scratch if I bump my wrist against a wall? I see that as more likely to happen.

Depending on the angle of attack a brick wall can scratch a sapphire watch crystal, so I assume it's going to be able to scratch the glass on the Sport as well. All this is part of the experience of wearing a watch, it teaches you to be careful with walls.

The point of using sapphire is the aggregation of all the unavoidable lesser scratching events over time. For what it is, the Sport will be fine without sapphire. It's not meant to last for decades.
 
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