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Your math is way off. It's a complicated calculation due to the curved corners, but just to prove how small the difference is, these would be the measurements not accounting for the curved corners:

Series 8
30.58 mm x 37.37 mm = 1143 sq mm

Ultra
30.83 mm x 37.75 mm = 1164 sq mm

As you can see, the Ultra screen is only about a quarter of a millimeter wider and less than half a millimeter taller.

If the Ultra screen was 4.6 millimeters wider or taller, the difference would be VERY noticeable... even greater than the difference between the 41 mm and the 45 mm watches. But if you look at real photos of the 45 mm next to the Ultra, there is no perceivable difference in screen size, only in bezel size.

If you need more proof that your calculation is wrong, consider the following:
1) A 10x10 square has an area of 10 * 10 = 100
2) An 11x11 square has an area of 11 * 11 = 122
3) The square root of 22 (122 - 100) is 4.7, but the 11x11 square is not 4.7 larger than the 10x10 square in either direction.

If you wanted to assume a square shape, and use square root to estimate the difference in width, you would need to do:
sqrt(1164) - sqrt(1143) = 0.309 mm difference
Great point. I wonder if the Ultra screen is actually smaller due to more curved corners?
 
Bring standalone Apple Watch with NO dependency on iPhone or any other device. Add camera and Safari to read QR codes. Then I am sold.
This. Been waiting since series 3. For my purposes, there’s been zero substantial improvements since series 3, only marketing bulletpoints.

Until it’s standalone, it’s just cumbersome expensive fluff. I’m a highly active, healthy person in better condition than 98% of the people in this country. I do in fact climb mountains. A stupid watch hanging off an appendage has zero to do with my health and fitness state. “Health” benefits of a watch are marketing to stupid people who actually are stupid enough to believe that giving Apple $800 will make them magic mountain climbers while they sit on the couch munching Cheetos and watching Apple TV 🤣

Want a clue? Go to a real gym. How many of the humans in maximum top shape are wearing a fitness watch? Gee, zero. What does that mean? Then take a look at the ones wearing a "fitness" watch. Yup. It's almost as though wearing a fitness watch is the *cause* of being unhealthy, fat, and out of shape.
 
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I had to laugh.

Extreme temperatures as low as -4? In many parts of the USA, that's a fairly common winter Monday.
Temperature spec is actually -20 to 55 deg Celsius so it is either freeze or burn you wrist
I had to laugh.

Extreme temperatures as low as -4? In many parts of the USA, that's a fairly common winter Monday.
In sensible units -20 to 55 Celsius it is going to freeze or burn your wrist however it will still work if it is not on your wrist over this temperature range.
 
To me this thing looks massive. I can't imagine wearing it on my wrist.
I want to see one in person to compare to the 8 size.
 
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The bezel is way too wide on Ultra. The display area on Ultra, according to Apple specs is 1164 sq mm vs 1143 sq mm on a regular Watch 8: basically the same size just ultra has bigger bezels. Shame
Thank you! This comment opened my eyes. I already ordered Ultra but this might cause me to cancel the order, even though the Ultra could still be better of the two for me. Maybe next year?
 
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You dont have to guess why it has a massive black border around the screen! They chop the screen bezel up the next 2 years with the Ultra 2 and 3 while they already could have done it with the Ultra 1
 


Apple on Wednesday unveiled the new Apple Watch Ultra, a larger, more advanced smartwatch aimed at athletes, explorers, and swimmers. The Apple Watch Ultra shares the same features as the new Apple Watch Series 8, but there is a whole lot more to the watch than meets the eye. Here are just some of the more notable differences that are worth highlighting.

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Operating Temperatures Are Extreme

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iPhones can get so hot or so cold that they can become non-functional, but the Apple Watch Ultra is very unlikely to, even in the harshest of climes. Apple says the watch has been designed to accommodate the most extreme environments in outdoor exploration, with an on-wrist operating temperature from –4° to 131° F (–20° to 55° C).

Larger Display, More Complications

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Apple has created a new Wayfinder watch face that's been designed especially for the larger Apple Watch Ultra display. It includes a compass built into the dial, and has space for up to eight complications on screen at the same time. The Wayfinder watch face can also be customized for mountain, ocean, or trail expeditions.

Customizable Action Button

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Where previous Apple Watch models have had just two physical controls, Apple Watch Ultra has a third on the left side of the screen called the Action button, which is colored in "international orange" and can serve a range of functions.

As it's customizable, what the Action button does is up to the user, so one push can let you track race segments during a workout, find a way out when using Backtrack, drop a Compass Waypoint, or start up a dive computer, depending on your needs.

Brighter Screen

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Under the flat sapphire front crystal is a Retina display that is not only the biggest yet on an Apple Watch, but it can also output contents at up to 2,000 nits, which is two times brighter than any other Apple Watch display.

Night Mode

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To optimize for evening conditions when using the Wayfinder watch face, a turn of the Digital Crown engages Night Mode, which turns the interface red and removes retina-altering blue light from the display to ease strain on your eyes in the dark.

Emergency Siren

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If you ever become lost, injured, or have some other emergency situation and want to draw attention to your location, Apple Watch Ultra includes an 86-decibel siren that can be enabled by holding the Action button.

Apple says the siren uses a unique sound signature that incorporates two distinct alternating patterns, which can repeat for several hours. The first pattern suggests distress, while the second mimics the universally recognized SOS pattern, and the siren can be heard up to 600 feet or 180 meters away.

Best-in-Class GPS Positioning

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Apple Watch Ultra uses a precision dual-frequency GPS that integrates both L1 and the latest frequency, L5. Apple says that in combination with new custom positioning algorithms, this provides users with the most accurate GPS of any smartwatch on the market, and should help trail runners and other athletes who often find themselves in amongst dense trees or high buildings.

Redesigned Compass App

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In watchOS 9, the Compass has been redesigned for Apple Watch Ultra and now has three different views. The app displays a new hybrid view that simultaneously shows both an analog compass dial and a digital view, while turning the Digital Crown reveals an additional view that includes latitude, longitude, elevation, and incline, as well as an orienteering view showing Compass Waypoints and Backtrack.

Waypoint Marking and Backtrack

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In the Compass app, you can press the Action button or tap the Compass Waypoint icon to drop a waypoint and mark the location you are in. Waypoints can be edited by tapping the icon, and the Compass Waypoint complication updates automatically in real time showing both the direction of the waypoint as well as its approximate distance.

Meanwhile, with the help of GPS, a new Backtrack function creates a path showing you where you've been, like a breadcrumb trail, which you can use if you get lost or disoriented and want to retrace your steps.

Water Temperature Sensor and Depth Gauge

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Apple Watch Ultra is certified to EN 13319, which is an internationally recognized standard for dive accessories, including depth gauges. The Apple Watch Ultra even incorporates a depth gauge into a new Depth app, which can display time, current depth down to 40 meters, water temperature, duration under water, and max depth reached.

When underwater, the Apple Watch Ultra automatically opens the Depth app, making it quick and easy to get critical information without needing to open it manually. Alternatively, you can assign the Depth app to the Action button to launch it when needed.

Availability

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The Apple Watch Ultra costs $799 and was made available for pre-order after Wednesday's "Far out" event. It comes in a silver titanium casing and is available with three different bands: Trail, Alpine, and Ocean. The Apple Watch Ultra will begin shipping to customers on Friday, September 23.

Article Link: Apple Watch Ultra: 10 New and Noteworthy Features
Nice and all but my 3 years old Garmin has 130 hours of battery life - this has 36. - I switched away from Apple after having 4 different versions of watches ( top model each year) simply because the battery sucks ( ohh yes and also that it do not automatically track bicycle as Garmin do.
And it took way to many clicks to get to start recording activity.
And health app vs Garmin app is a joke.

TBH I would love to get Apple Watch again since I loved the things I miss now, like Siri and answering sms or calls. But that vs battery life - not a hard choice for me.
 
Some of the features seem to be useful for non-extreme uses.
For example, a jogger might like the emergency siren as a safety device ; a feature that would have been useful in all models.
 
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Warning!! Unpopular opinion ahead: That thing is so un-Apple like and hideous. It looks like a knockoff of an Apple Watch.
I think yes and no.

In a sense yes, because the product is leaning into the category of what looks like a sports technical product. But on the other hand, that IS what it is trying to both bill itself as and become. It fits into those categories of extreme sports watches made by Garmin and others.
 
I'm not that into swimming, diving, mountain climbing or other sports but I would like to start hiking sometime (I often go for 4 miles walks along Brighton Seafront, but dream of hiking the Appalachian Trail one day!)
I love the look of this watch and the flat screen so I've pre-ordered and can't wait to replace my S6, the only thing that confused me is the straps... I wound up going for the orange Alpine one, I just hope that clasp doesn't slip out easily.
 
I actually like the look and was considering replacing my series 5 but I have absolutely no need for cellular and it’s corresponding monthly cell cost on a watch so it’ll probably be a pass for me.
 
I'm not that into swimming, diving, mountain climbing or other sports but I would like to start hiking sometime (I often go for 4 miles walks along Brighton Seafront, but dream of hiking the Appalachian Trail one day!)
I love the look of this watch and the flat screen so I've pre-ordered and can't wait to replace my S6, the only thing that confused me is the straps... I wound up going for the orange Alpine one, I just hope that clasp doesn't slip out easily.
I think I’m actually going to KEEP my S6 going and allow myself to swap between watches depending on use case. I might put on the S6 at night, for sleep tracking and then Ultra when workout or activity or interest dicTate’s. At this point a solid S6 is only worth about 110$ on the secondary market and mine lasts 2 days on a charge still.

I really like the “track back” feature for hiking on the ultra, but wonder why they wouldn’t just offer it on the regular watches. It seems like for outdoors hiking sometimes off trail this would be a great feature. Even for ON trail, the ability to put WAYPOINTS and track back mapping is pretty cool.
 
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I think I’m actually going to KEEP my S6 going and allow myself to swap between watches depending on use case. I might put on the S6 at night, for sleep tracking and then Ultra when workout or activity or interest dicTate’s. At this point a solid S6 is only worth about 110$ on the secondary market and mine lasts 2 days on a charge still.

I really like the “track back” feature for hiking on the ultra, but wonder why they wouldn’t just offer it on the regular watches. It seems like for outdoors hiking sometimes off trail this would be a great feature. Even for ON trail, the ability to put WAYPOINTS and track back mapping is pretty cool.
I sold my S6 for £150 as I needed to pay the upfront cost for the Ultra... I thought about doing a trade-in with EE when I ordered the Ultra but they only offered me £20 for my S6 (perfect condition) 🤣
 
I sold my S6 for £150 as I needed to pay the upfront cost for the Ultra... I thought about doing a trade-in with EE when I ordered the Ultra but they only offered me £20 for my S6 (perfect condition) 🤣
210 euros for my Apple Watch series 7 steele, less than a year. 🤣🤣
 
I actually like the look and was considering replacing my series 5 but I have absolutely no need for cellular and it’s corresponding monthly cell cost on a watch so it’ll probably be a pass for me.

You need not activate a cellular plan; you just lose the ability to get mail/messages/etc. away from wifi.
 
I know I’m not the audience for this watch but still, if it was designed to look a bit better, I’d probably manage to convince myself to buy it. 😳

My wallet is thankful for that.
 
Extreme temperatures as low as -4? In many parts of the USA, that's a fairly common winter Monday.
That's not just "the temperature outside", that's temperature on your wrist. How much time do you spend walking around in -4°F temperatures while wearing a short sleeved t-shirt? If you're wearing, say, a jacket that's keeping your wrist covered and thus above -4°F, then there won't be a problem.
 
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