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It should be able to show the ambient air temperature too. Just make it a complication that you can add to any watch face. Being outside in the cold or heat is also dangerous.
 
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Love the SB Titanium as well... Weird to reserve the premium materials for the Ultra - they are not competing at all. Ultra would be way too big and bulky for me - and even as a marathoner, the Ultra is hugely overkill
Exactly.

Someone there had a 7 and 1/4” wrist like mine and put it on to video. Huge. That’s before I even address my 19 Apple Watch bands. All 44/45mm ones. Some sport some solo. I’ll pass and order and Edleberry instead 😀.

I am crossing my fingers that next year we see Apple Watch Edition Ti back again.
 
I don't dive but my guess is this is going to be hugely popular in the diving community - even if the prosumer level.

Its functionality means it'll be limited to the recreational market. It doesn't seem to have many of the features that are essential for technical or professional diving, or even more advanced recreational diving. For example, even many recreational divers will breathe different gasses than air (21% oxygen), including different gasses on the same dive, to allow them to dive deeper or longer, but the Ultra doesn't seem to support that.
 
Why would anyone buy the Watch 8 steel case 45mm when you can get a 49mm Ultra for just $50 more?
Well, I did just that because the 45 mm case is borderline too large on my wrist as it is. An even larger case is a non-starter. People with small wrists are left out of this one--unless they REALLY need the features involved and are willing to deal with the size and bulk of the Ultra.

I don't dive and rarely ski any more, much less climb deserted mountains just for fun. No use for the Ultra features.
 
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The Ultra is not going to be worn by people in professional business or formal settings. It's bulky and has orange on it, will look ridiculous with a Milanese loop, etc. The stainless steel Apple Watch can handle those formal settings but slap on a sport band and you can still go running with it.
That is utter nonsense and is based on taste. But of course it is not aimed at business settings at all. Watch the presentation to see to who is the target…
 
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I was impressed with the Scuba features the most, the water features is what got me to upgrade from S0 to S3 in the first place when that came out, and here we are years later with now the extreme stuff. I may consider getting one before going out to Maui again, even if the S6 would be daily driver.
 
The Ultra is not going to be worn by people in professional business or formal settings. It's bulky and has orange on it, will look ridiculous with a Milanese loop, etc. The stainless steel Apple Watch can handle those formal settings but slap on a sport band and you can still go running with it.
I guess I should stop wearing my red sport band in professional and other formal settings.
 
I guess I should stop wearing my red sport band in professional and other formal settings.

I wear Hermes bands regularly but I love mixing up sport bands especially when it may rain that day or we'll be outside all day kind of stuff.

I recall Nancy Pelosi wore the pride sport band during a house press conference with a solid color dress, which I'd consider is more formal. Still love that band the most of all the pride ones.
 
I'm keen to learn more about the dive functionality of this, i.e. what level of existing dive watch it competes with, e.g. does it support Nitrox, multi-gas, deco-dives, logging, post-dive analysis etc. I'm pretty sure there won't be air integration, which is a shame and I really hope Apple hasn't locked-it down into some kind of 'super-safe' mode with massive conservatism and mandatory lock-out if you blow your safety stop by 10 secs etc. I guess all the info's probably out there already, I've just not got round to finding it yet.
I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like the dive software is being written by Apple. Apple is just providing the sensors and APIs, and it's a third party making the dive software: Oceanic+. It would be very cool in my opinion if we eventually have competing dive apps to keep updates and innovation flowing.

Edit: according to the web page for the app, Oceanic+ will support air and nitrox, but no technical gases. This is a great fit for my use as a recreational diver diving on nitrox. I'll be using this as a backup computer to my Suunto Eon Steel. Also, the diving complications look pretty nice, showing surface interval and no-fly times, plus other things.
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I'm keen to learn more about the dive functionality of this, i.e. what level of existing dive watch it competes with, e.g. does it support Nitrox, multi-gas, deco-dives, logging, post-dive analysis etc. I'm pretty sure there won't be air integration, which is a shame and I really hope Apple hasn't locked-it down into some kind of 'super-safe' mode with massive conservatism and mandatory lock-out if you blow your safety stop by 10 secs etc. I guess all the info's probably out there already, I've just not got round to finding it yet.
There are several videos from Oceanic on the dive functionality. No air integration as expected, but I’m sure would be on their radar. Nitrox: yes, Deco: yes, Trimix/SCR/CCR: no.

It’s meant as a strictly recreational computer (not technical) which is probably 95+% of the scuba market.

I’m an assistant instructor trainer for scuba diving. I ordered the Ultra to replace my Garmin Descent MK2i which is a mac daddy of dive computers. Why? I have another air integrated computer that I’ll use for specific dives that call for it. 90+% of the time I’m diving with students who’s air consumption is greater than mine so I rarely look at my pressure, but constantly monitoring theirs.

I love the Garmin, but it’s still Garmin in an Apple ecosystem. I dive 2-3 times a month, but will use the other features of the Watch daily.

I think this will move the dive computer market to separate the hardware and software. Apple / Samsung make the hardware and dive gear manufacturers produce the software (with a subscription). Dive manufacturers no longer have to R&D hardware and software. They can concentrate on software, and let Apple/Samsung/Garmin deal with the hardware, who frankly are much better at it.
 
I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like the dive software is being written by Apple. Apple is just providing the sensors and APIs, and it's a third party making the dive software: Oceanic+. It would be very cool in my opinion if we eventually have competing dive apps to keep updates and innovation flowing.
You are correct and I think we’ll see competing apps from Mares, Suunto, AquaLung, etc . . . . Eventually. . . After they catch their breath from getting left behind.
 
I'm keen to learn more about the dive functionality of this, i.e. what level of existing dive watch it competes with, e.g. does it support Nitrox, multi-gas, deco-dives, logging, post-dive analysis etc. I'm pretty sure there won't be air integration, which is a shame and I really hope Apple hasn't locked-it down into some kind of 'super-safe' mode with massive conservatism and mandatory lock-out if you blow your safety stop by 10 secs etc. I guess all the info's probably out there already, I've just not got round to finding it yet.
Not sure how sophisticated the Apple app is, but this is coming:
 
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I'll counter that a lot of people will use it as a fashion accessory because it showcases a life of adventure and activity they claim to have or want. I also think less than .1% of this version of the watch will ever go more than 4 feet under water.
Yeah, I think you’re wrong about that underwater figure.
 
It should be able to show the ambient air temperature too. Just make it a complication that you can add to any watch face. Being outside in the cold or heat is also dangerous.

If it can be used to read the air temperature in real time that would be a really nice feature. If it can measure water temperature then surely air shouldn't be an issue. Definitely a complication I'll be using if I can.
 
I want the scuba functionality to be fantastic. I’d love to see air integration added but I guess that requires further hardware. I have a concern about servicing. EN13319 devices require regular servicing and that includes a pressure test. I doubt the Genius Bar are going to offer this and I doubt my dive centre will be able to service an Apple Watch. I’ll keep watching for further info.
 
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When underwater, the Apple Watch Ultra automatically opens the Depth app

When underwater with the non-Ultra Apple Watch it assumes you can't swim and automatically opens the Death app.
It will open the "Do you need 911?" screen
 
For example, even many recreational divers will breathe different gasses than air (21% oxygen), including different gasses on the same dive, to allow them to dive deeper or longer, but the Ultra doesn't seem to support that.
It supports both air and nitrox.
 
Just to be clear, the Apple Ultra is being marketed as a legit scuba diving computer, unlike 100m watch products. Dive computers are pricey and are critical to the serious diver. They are all about depth, rate of decent/ascent, time, decompression, gas mixes, etc... all in the name of not ending up in the emergency decompression chamber or worse.
I get it and the point was the claim from the late 80’s my old watch had.
 
The Ultra is not going to be worn by people in professional business or formal settings. It's bulky and has orange on it, will look ridiculous with a Milanese loop, etc. The stainless steel Apple Watch can handle those formal settings but slap on a sport band and you can still go running with it.
True, but then again, I believe there will be people in professional business or formal setting sporting this thing, especially in Asia, just to flex that they can afford the Apple Watch Ultra. :)
 
I wish the regular Apple Watch would do water temperature. I’m always curious when I go swimming what the actual temperature is. I’ll never buy an Ultra though because I don’t dive or do extreme sports and it’s way too bulky for my arm even if I did.
 
If it can be used to read the air temperature in real time that would be a really nice feature. If it can measure water temperature then surely air shouldn't be an issue. Definitely a complication I'll be using if I can.
Shouldn’t the regular 8 be able to do the same thing? They both have the temperature sensor built in.
 
I don't dive but my guess is this is going to be hugely popular in the diving community - even if the prosumer level.
Doubt it. There's already tons of dedicated wrist-worn dive computers that do the job far better and has massive screens for easy legibility. For example, here's one I own:


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