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I stand corrected about the one year. It is not even one year. Lol. It's not even a warranty! My bad. It's even worst than what I wrote!

Read up on how COSC does its testings. No difference than what ETA does with its top movement.

COSC is not diploma. Sorry. No matter how much you repost it. It is not. Ask a watchmaker what it means when he charges $300-500 to service your watch!! Lol.

With diploma, you always have the basic knowledge and from there you grow. COSC is not like that. There is no advancement. There is just rapid decline in "knowledge" just right after achieving it. it is not retained knowledge. And every 3-5 years (for most quality mechanicals) or less, you need to re-train that "knowledge" at your own cost.

Get it now dude (or dudes given Relentless Power)? You overpaid for a little tag!! Stop trying to rationalized a marketing scheme!

I will end our little debate with my post above. Thanks for the chat.
 
May I end this "debate" with the following:

Le Contrôle officiel suisse des chronomètres (COSC):

"Le titre chronomètre peut être comparé au diplôme d'une haute école. A un moment de sa vie, le candidat a prouvé, sur la base d'un examen, qu'il répondait aux critères de performances l'autorisant à porter un titre. Comme pour une personne diplômée, ce titre lui est acquis pour la vie, même si ses performances risquent de s'altérer un peu avec le temps."
 
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The fact of the matter is that you don't have a point.
You confront two views on the same matter, both belonging to you.
Talk about missing the boat.

All your points were valid and clearly specified through this whole discussion. I agree you made sense of this argument. There is sheer ignorance and blatant refuting clearly exhibited in here.
 
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Just have both. They can be friends. AW S2 is my fitness tracker. Cycling, running, walking etc. Rolex gets daily wear. Pardon the dust on the Rolex took it out for pics. :)

I know which i prefer by a mile but both have uses. I never use the AW for notifications.

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More power to you! Would not mind seeing an image. These old machines were a real marvel in workmanship!

Here you are. Jony Ive could not design something so beautiful, something so functional as this machine. The Olivetti Lettera 32. Superior to any computer Apple has ever made. I don't need to charge it five times a day like a MacBook. It has an always-on display, no bugs or glitches, and has never ever nor ever will crashed. No need for silly OS updates. I can see the entire page when I type. And best of all, this typewriter won't be obsolete in a year unlike a MacBook.
 

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Here you are. Jony Ive could not design something so beautiful, something so functional as this machine. The Olivetti Lettera 32. Superior to any computer Apple has ever made. I don't need to charge it five times a day like a MacBook. It has an always-on display, no bugs or glitches, and has never ever nor ever will crashed. No need for silly OS updates. I can see the entire page when I type. And best of all, this typewriter won't be obsolete in a year unlike a MacBook.

Oh yeah, hit to buttons at the exact same time... LOL
 
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I'd argue that getting the Edition blurs that line. Nothing screams "I have money!" more than dropping $10,000-17,000 on a watch that'll become obsolete in a few short years.


Uhhh...How does that mechanical timepiece, whose only function is to tell time, become obsolete? I like the Desert Island analogy. After several months of isolation, I'll still be able to tell time with my Rolex. Not so with the AW.
 
I think of mechanical watches now like classic cars. They last lifetimes, built great, can go up in value, are not disposable, can be passed down. There is just something emotional about them and mechanical watches like many classic cars. The AW is really becoming so useful its hard not to wear it just like how useful our smart phones have become now. Of coarse we don't need any of this tech at all and its nice to be unplugged once in awhile but the realty is it make our lives easier for the most part. Apple will continue to add more features/health to the AW. I don't think they will make mechanicals obsolete but more and more people will wear the AW over the mechanicals. I put my Daytona in the safe and need to wear my AW everyday this month. I am doing dry January and need the Heart metrics every day and all day to compare to last month when there were so many company/holiday parties and lots of drinking. I use Heartwatch and I can really see the differences and I'm only 9 days into it. Today I pulled out a long sleeve and am wearing both because I have not worn the Daytona in awhile. I would never wear both with a short sleeve as I think its Doucheee. First world problems I know but id love to see where we are in 5 years from now with AW vs mechanical.
 
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100% Rolex. Apple watch is non sense for me. I know that Rolex is much more expensive but looks much better.
 
In this day and age, the Rolex is jewelry period. A Timex quartz keeps better time. There are less expensive mechanical watches that can keep good time if you are stranded on a desert island, but why would you care what time it is in that case.
 
There is no comparison. People don’t buy a Rolex for absolute accurate timing and people who buy Apple Watches who don’t see the point of a Rolex aren’t the target customer anyway. It’s like a Ford Fiesta driver criticising a Porsche, completely different target markets.
 
No comparison. One was designed in the 21st century to be a multifunctional tool watch while the other is functional jewelry designed in the early 20th century using an antiquated Rube Goldberg-type mechanism to move the hands around a dial.

Now with that said, I do like watches and admire the craftsmanship that goes into making them. Rolex are masters of marketing. In many people's minds they are the height of watchmaking, but in reality they use workhorse movements and have a decent level of finishing. There are other brands that are truly high end, like Moser, FP Journe, ALS, PP, AP, even Grand Seiko that are finished at a higher level. If I were going to equate Rolex to a car, maybe a Mercedes E-Class.
 
100% Rolex. Apple watch is non sense for me. I know that Rolex is much more expensive but looks much better.
That's the easy question. One is fine jewelry and the other is a tech gadget. The harder question is why mechanical watch owners who neither own nor have any interest in owning an Apple watch feel the need to come to an Apple watch forum to justify their choice.
 
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Personally, I prefer classic watches. There's something timeless and elegant about them that smartwatches just can't match.

Apple Watches are great for their functionality. They track your fitness, receive notifications, and have lots of apps. But for me, a classic watch is more about style and tradition. I like the craftsmanship and the statement a classic watch makes.

My favorites are Breitling watches because of their robust build and intricate designs. They have a unique look that stands out. Recently, I found a Breitling replica and decided to order it. I love how it looks and feels just like the original.
 
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I just sold my Rolex. It only came out once or twice a year. Really like my Ultra.
I have an Ultra, do like Rolex and agree with others they are very different things. The AW Ultra is a practical everyday device.

The Rolex is fine jewellery.

I’d have a Patek before a Rolex however - I very much respect the work that goes into what they build. The people building them are brilliant.
 
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