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http://www.google.com/search?client...ad&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=apple+is+doomed&rls=en
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Apple Widens Lead Over Samsung in U.S. Smartphone Race in 2013
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unless it's true. tons of "apple is dead" articles out there:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=apple+is+dead&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
http://www.google.com/search?client...ad&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=apple+is+doomed&rls=en
I'll take that bet and see you a TPU case.
I think * at best * it's a 50/50 split, but personally: 30/70 split among ALL upgraders in favor of the smaller format assuming size is the only differentiator; i.e., iPad mini and iPad Air. However, among NEW iPhone users, then yes, I'd agree that the larger size would outsell the smaller size b/c obviously people that want the smaller size can buy it today.
Oh I'm fully aware of that. That's why I was careful to say "consumer products", meaning the entire whole of the product.
You have to read the post that I replied to understand my point.
One poster said that all he ever owned were iPhones. Another poster replied that he should look around at other phones, he might find one that he might even like better.
My point was, yes, if you compare phone vs. phone, you might find an Android that you like better. But there is more to it than phone vs. phone. If you are in the habit of leveraging features that are native to the Apple ecosystem, the decision is more complex.
Just like me. I have 2 Apple TVs and an Airport express. I stream music and video from my iPhones to these devices. Even if Samsung released a phone that was twice as good as the best iPhone, I would still have to weigh the Airplay issue and the FaceTime issue (which I use quit a bit with extended family and my wife we she travels).
Of course, if I got that Samsung phone, I could look for FaceTime alternatives. All I would have to do is contact all my relatives that I usually FaceTime with and get them to unanimously agree on one chat client that we can all use that is not FaceTime. And then have all of them install.
I get there are Samsung components in my devices, but I opt not to buy a product with the logo on it. The difference is I don't ever have to deal with the company. If my iPhone breaks down, I go to Apple and they have always on several occasions delivered in customer service.
In what sense? Just because some of the phones aren't flagships and accessory makers prefer the iPhone? Of course they do as it's a couple models of phones so it's much easier.
The app developer point in your comment is probably less of a point than it was a few years ago. I would argue that the app stores have reached close to parity to the quality of the apps for both OS's.
No - my point is - if I only use facetime - I have to know that the other person has an iPhone. If I use Tango (which I do) I know that I can call anyone with an iPhone, Windows Phone, Android, etc. And if they don't have it installed - that's an easy fix. Tell me how to get Facetime on another platform and I'd be happy to default to using facetime.
Same with iMessage. I prefer WhatsApp. No need to concern myself with if the other person is going to get charged for an incoming message or not.
But that's ME and my use case. I think Facetime and iMessage are great.
Why is that? What exactly frightens you about Samsung?
Agreed about Apple customer service, it's almost always been very good from my personal experience. In fact, they just replaced a two year and 3 month old iPhone 4S for me for free. I had a push a little but they did it because the wifi died on it after the iOS 7 upgrade and this is a known issue.
I'll take that bet and see you a TPU case.
I think * at best * it's a 50/50 split, but personally: 30/70 split among ALL upgraders in favor of the smaller format assuming size is the only differentiator; i.e., iPad mini and iPad Air. However, among NEW iPhone users, then yes, I'd agree that the larger size would outsell the smaller size b/c obviously people that want the smaller size can buy it today.
I really think that if the iPhone 6 or whatever it will be called is the flagship iPhone and has a larger screen, it will outsell the smaller or C version or whatever they decide to call it. I'm betting that more iPhone buyers will prefer the larger screen over the current size. Time will tell and the larger screen is coming sooner, not later, IMO. I think the iPad mini outsells the Air because of price too, not just size.
None of us think that apple is a victim, we just find the intellectual dishonesty of the tech media deplorable. And if you haven't seen the article's claiming that Apple has lost its mojo, can no longer make desirable products, etc, then you aren't reading that much tech journalism.
Samsung made lookalikes in the beginning, not bigger displays and smaller bezels. Adding larger displays was a natural progression of OEMs who base their product decisions on how it looks on a comparison chart because they have few means to truly differentiate their products.
As for blind loyalists, you also have the same in the Android camp. Remember the "Why do you need a 10" iPhone?" chant from all the Android devotees when the iPad was introduced? Even the chairman of Google questioned that logic in public. But it wasn't long before Google and its OEMs rushed to market with their own iPad wannabes and the Android crowd loved it.
simple summary
I'll deduce your post down to a sentence.
Never chase your competitors down to the bottom, because there is nothing there.
I'll deduce your post down to a sentence.
Never chase your competitors down to the bottom, because there is nothing there.
Yea. I'm also happy to say that there are zero Samsung consumer products in my house and I'd like to keep it that way as well
I wouldn't buy any of their ridiculously large phones. I wouldn't be seen dead with their idiotic watch. I have seen phone adverts that I found insulting. But I was quite happy with a Samsung Laserprinter and there's nothing wrong so far with a Samsung TV.
It was less than two years ago everyone here was falling all over themselves to proclaim how 3.5 is the perfect size and anything bigger is stupid. Oh how time erases some memories.
I'll deduce your post down to a sentence.
Never chase your competitors down to the bottom, because there is nothing there.
The bottom of what? Total dominance in worldwide market share?
Their business practices and philosophies are not one's I particularly share or agree with, so it's just a company I don't feel like supporting really.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's a simple matter of dealing with Apple rather than Samsung. Just last year, I had 3 of our 4 iPhone 5s (plural 5, not the 5s) in my family crap out on us. I brought each one into the Apple store and all were swapped out for brand new ones. No fuss, no hassle. Only a longer than expected wait time no thanks to the sheer volume of customers in store.
Good thing for the other vendors is many people like larger phones.
The Samsung ads are no less insulting than the I'm a Mac campaign.
Not 58%
While Apple is reported at 42%, the remaining 58% is not all Android. First you can see about 3% of market is Blackberry. Then you can see the Other category. That must hold some Windows phones (2%, would be my guess) and a few of the other random OSes that still are chugging along. This is such a large market that a few percentage points make a difference.
If I had to guess, looking at that chart, I'd put Android at 52%. Since we seem so focused on comparing Apple to Android, we should be seeing it as about a 10% gap.
While Apple is reported at 42%, the remaining 58% is not all Android. First you can see about 3% of market is Blackberry. Then you can see the Other category. That must hold some Windows phones (2%, would be my guess) and a few of the other random OSes that still are chugging along. This is such a large market that a few percentage points make a difference.
If I had to guess, looking at that chart, I'd put Android at 52%. Since we seem so focused on comparing Apple to Android, we should be seeing it as about a 10% gap.
Apple have just been caught in a price fixing operation and broke warranty laws of other countries several times. Hardly the high ground...
Yep agreed, very easy and great customer service almost all the time. Wasn't like that here in Australia until we had Apple stores though as most of the resellers were terrible.
Ironic that FaceTime is used as an example here, since it was promised to be open source.
Still waiting on that...
Re: mini (retina) price vs. Air. The difference is really minimal when you consider the Air is heavily discounted. It's about a $50 difference, which I think is inconsequential at that point. It's just about size and preference not $ saving.
The reason I think the current size will maintain its lead vs a larger screen is adults, esp. men, don't have many places to store a larger phone. The current size fits comfortably in jeans or pants pockets. A Phablet does not. And women, esp at night, carry minimal purses, often just clutches. Again a Phablet won't fit.
What is your reasoning as to why a larger screen will outsell the current size (among all iPhone buyers)?
We are still here. I like the small size on my phone. The smaller the better. I've got a iPad Mini with me most of the time when I want more screen space.
I hope they keep supporting the 4" size. And if they made a 3.5" flagship phone with top components, I'd probably buy that. Mainly I will just buy their top phone every two years. That is what I'm going to do. But my preference is for the phone to be very pocketable. So I'm hoping the flagship components next year aren't just in a 4.5" phone.
You are talking hypothetical.
Let's talk real life.
Use case 1: Wife lives in U.S. Her mom, sister, 3 brothers, several nieces and nephews live in Canada. On b'days and religious holidays, we FaceTime them all. We don't have to ask if they have Skype. Why? Because we know they all have iOS devices. We don't have to figure out if they use Fring or Skype or ooVoo or whatever.
Take that use case and remove the "ecosystem". Put a mixture of Android phones and Windows phones in various people's hands. Tell me, how do I video chat with all of these people during Xmas?
Use case 2: I have Macs, Apple TVs and iOS devices. Whenever I want so show something on my 50" t.v., I Airplay from my Mac or iOS device to my Apple TV. Whenever I want to play music on my stereo, I Airplay on to my Airport express. For Xmas, I got my kid an iPad mini. She opened the box and right away, she had access the music and videos she previously bought in iTunes and could either watch/listen on her iPad mini or Airplay on AppleTV/Airport express. All this works with almost zero set up.
Let's now take this use case and remove the "ecosystem". Let's say Roku. And you bought your kid some Android tablet. And you bought your spouse a new Windows laptop. What is involved and getting those all to talk to each other so your kid can stream music and video from the Android tablet? And what is involved for your spouse to video stream whatever is on the new Windows laptop?
After you are done walking me through that, then tell me again how ecosystem is nonsense.
Oh I'm fully aware of that. That's why I was careful to say "consumer products", meaning the entire whole of the product.
How do you justify this then? Seriously asking, not trolling. Because if you don't like Samsung, how can you have it in any of your products? How do you draw that line?
Again, hypothetical.
I only have FaceTime now. Which restricts me to iOS and Mac users only. But I use it a ton.
I had Skype for a couple of years. You now how ofter I used it? Almost never. Because most people I wanted to video chat with either didn't have Skype set up or couldn't be bothered to figure out how to use it.
Whereas every on iOS device... they don't even have to know or do anything to use FaceTime.
Hangouts might be the greatest thing since sliced bread... that no one I know has ever heard of.