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Apple should include a dock adaptor, but I doubt they will. They don't even include a MagSafe 1 adaptor with their $2000+ retina MacBook pros.

I don't understand why you think they *should* include a MagSafe 1 adapter with the retina MacBook Pros. After all, the come *with* their charger, which has the appropriate MagSafe 2 connector.

They make the adapter available (and pretty cheaply) if you want to use your *old* charger with your new laptop, but many people don't have extras in the first place, and will send the old laptop's charger along with the old laptop (wherever it goes), so including the MS1 adapter in the box would just be an extraneous piece of useless junk to most people.
 
It a rumor.

Try not to go too crazy over a rumor. What for it to be real before you begin your outrage. Third party cables and adapters will be sold soon enough, just not at launch.
 
$10 is an incredible deal really. I was expecting much more than this. Also the $29 for three discount deal will really multiply for volume purchases. Consumers will save a lot of money buying three packs over time.

What? You save one dollar when buying three. I don't see why you would be buying these in volume anyways. At most people would have a stereo dock and maybe car dock, plus some old cables laying around.

Or are you thinking the cable is $10? as the cable is $19.
 
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These are apple branded not chinese knock offs. So $10 is cheap. I will be happy to pay $20 for one. Thank you apple!
 
$10 for an adaptor isn't bad, overpriced sure, but not bad. Its $10 to extended the life of your accessories indefinetly...small price to pay really.

Also an announced price doesn't mean the iPhone 5 won't come with one, it's just the price they will be selling addional adaptors for. iMac comes with a mouse, they still sell them.
 
I am beginning to think MacRumors purposefully posted a picture of the cable and not a 'leaked' adapter to drive up the number of posts and my blood pressure after reading the posts. ;)
 
The people who are complaining about the new 9 pin port on the iPhone 5 and how there asking "why didn't they just stick to the same 30 pin port they've been using 10 years plus", are the same people who complain when iMac came out with no floppy drive 12 years ago. Just stop it already!
 
Have they allowed 3rd party vendors to have access to the pin-outs or specs?

I haven't heard yet, but if not, that's a very bad move. Not only will that allow Apple to sell 10 dollar tiny pieces of plastic for these devices (iPhone, iPod, iPod nano, iPad) to connect to any current accessory, they are forcing everyone to do it that wants the new phone.

Although, great move for business and monopolizing. It is their choice, bottom line. Just not very nice for other businesses that thrive off an economy that Apple has created.
 
Just out of curiosity, is there any particular reason (other than it being proprietary so they can make more money) that apple cannot use a standard USB plug like every other phone in the word?

The existing dock doesn't just include USB - it includes analogue audio line in/out, analogue video out, some basic control signals and some pins left over from when iPods used to support Firewire as well as USB. You can't do all that with a USB connector.

The new connector will almost certainly drop some or all of of those - however, those photos look as if it is going to be fairly sturdy, with a solid metal tongue that locks into a relatively deep slot in the iPhone case, and easy to insert - I.e. unlike the Micro-USB connector (and possibly the original Apple 30-pin) it looks like it has actually been designed as a 'dock' connector that can also act as part of the mechanical support for the docked device and allows docking/undocking without straining the connector.

That would be a major advantage over Micro-USB.

NB: The standard USB3 "Micro connector" is a fugly Micro-USB-with-outrider thing. Does that say "Apple" to you...?

Okay, I'm confused. Is this saying that the only way to get a charging cable is to pay for it from Apple? Cause the one in the image looks identical to the cable you receive in the box just with the new connector end?

The picture the rumoured (but looking increasingly likely) new iPhone-to-USB cable. Nobody knows for sure but it's a reasonable assumption that it will be 'in the box' along with a power adapter, as per the current iPad/iPhone (ISTR that the iPods currently include a cable but skip the mains adapter).

In the the text, however, they are talking about the dingus that lets you plug your hypothetical new iPhone 5 into a HiFi/speaker/car/alarm clock/tropical fish tank with the old 30-pin connector. You won't need that unless you have a dock, car adapter, speakers, hifi, alarm clock tropical fish tank or small Pacific island with an old-style 30-pin connector. Again, nobody knows for sure, but it would be 'in character' for Apple not to give one away free.

Lesson for MacRumors editors: never print a picture that conflicts with the text - people can't deal with it.
 
I don't understand why you think they *should* include a MagSafe 1 adapter with the retina MacBook Pros. After all, the come *with* their charger, which has the appropriate MagSafe 2 connector.

Because the cost is next to nothing given the price of the computer. It's one thing less consumers have to worry about.

Anyway, including adaptors is always a good idea during transitional periods.
 
If you aren't going to let people compete with you then your cost should reflect it by keeping them low/free. this should include adapters.

Why on earth would they want to do that? This "design change" is going to reap them an estimated $100 MILLION the first year alone selling adapters to fans that will buy anything and everything Apple puts out without thinking twice about it. They sell adapters for monitors, adapters for Firewire (both for 800 to 400 and now Thunderbolt too; put adapters inside other adapters!), adapters for Ethernet and now adapters for their own "standards" as well. Apple is starting to look like they need to be renamed "Dongle" instead. :rolleyes:

The bottom line is that if consumers just put up with being charged for dongles, adapters and signal converters and don't bat an eye about it, Apple will continue to do it, perhaps doing it more and more often simply as a quick money maker. They don't care about their consumers of they'd support their machines they sell longer (I know Microsoft doesn't care about its consumers and they support their products 3-6x longer on average).

Apple is not your friend. Steve Jobs was not your savior. Apple was and is in business to take your money and that's the bottom line. They don't care how they do it so long as you keep giving it to them.
 
The current design is what, 10 years old? It still has firewire pins, for crying out loud.

With Macs finally getting USB 3 and Apple on a constant crusade to minimize the size of everything, it was time for a redesign.
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I would have rather the same plug and a different PHONE design. This is an outright disgrace! So much so I am really questioning if I should spend $600 and buy it. Absolutely nothing wrong with my 4S. Hell no one will even be able to tell the diff if a case is on both.
 
I'm surprised people are moaning about $10 for an adaptor...

I wouldn't have been surprised if no adaptor was available forcing everyone to buy all new accessories.

A few £/$ on top of the price of an iPhone for a pack of adaptors is fine in my eyes. Much better than buying a new car stereo and everything else.
 
But will it have integrated electronics (a la Thunderbolt cables)?

Interesting thought. A USB 2/3 cable in the box most likely. That said given the amount of media I shunt on and off of my 32GB iP4, I'd happily pony up for an aftersale phone Thunderbolt charge/sync cable.
 
I would have rather the same plug and a different PHONE design. This is an outright disgrace! So much so I am really questioning if I should spend $600 and buy it. Absolutely nothing wrong with my 4S. Hell no one will even be able to tell the diff if a case is on both.

Your same person I bet who complain when Apple started not having a floppy drives on the iMac when back then it was the norm to have one. SMH
 
I know the current cables already cost $19. I'm just saying its ridiculous in general. When you can get a cable off Amazon for less than a dollar.... Apple should not be charging more than $9.99 for cables.
 
The people who are complaining about the new 9 pin port on the iPhone 5 and how there asking "why didn't they just stick to the same 30 pin port they've been using 10 years plus", are the same people who complain when iMac came out with no floppy drive 12 years ago. Just stop it already!

not really

there seem to be no advantages to this new dock connector aside from smaller size. it is speculated that the new connector even loses some functionality like audio/video output

the successors to the floppy drive are truly superior to the floppy drive
 
"...while this is a significant amount of money, it is but a drop in the bucket compared to Apple's total sales."

Yeah but when you control every drop....
 
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