All they're gonna see is a bunch of college papers, spam emails and internet memes from my photo library. 
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Apple Will Begin Notifying Users of Information Requests from Law Enforcement
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Yes, you even have the right to believe that Earth age is less than 10.000 years.
But it won't change the fact that are silly believes
Watch what you say. They're watching. Comments like that get you on a list. Next thing you know they'll be going through your basement looking for a meth lab while you're at work with one of those sneak and peeks.
Hell, the IRS has already been targeting anti-democratic organizatons. IRS is worse than the govt. They have absolutely ZERO authority to claim a single asset, but if they ask your bank to put a hold on your acct, or garnish your wages people will do it. No warrant. No police action. No trial. They just do it because they don't want to be audited themselves. The IRS is our own little KGB.
Ah, but it's all fine if you have nothing to hide, right?
This is warrants
It is not "national security letters."
A search warrant and/or subpoena is one thing. But you're still not allowed to divulge to the target of a national security letter that he has a national security letter.
It is not "national security letters."
A search warrant and/or subpoena is one thing. But you're still not allowed to divulge to the target of a national security letter that he has a national security letter.
I value my rights. But I also think that some people need to go to jail. But my question is this. If you the innocent person get an email from apple saying the gov. Asked for your info what are you going to do. Come on what would you do? Hide stuff? Bad people can do that to. You do not need a notice before they look at it. After would be good. They will not stop doing this. And what about your house? With a warrant they can go in your house. A cop can look into your car and given a reason could look through the car with exception to the glove box and trunk. But you can get a warrant for the glove box and truck just by making a phone call on the spot. I do think that there should be warrants set up for going into some ones phone or personal info but that's it.
Well, it would create awareness around how much the NSA spies on innocent citizens. If everyone started getting these emails all the time saying that the NSA was accessing their personal data, the government might have an angry public on their hands demanding answers as to why they're spying on everybody all the time. People would become skeptical of government spying programs, and the government would be more compelled to only access someone's private data if absolutely necessary, reducing willy-nilly spying.
Glad this is happening..
People have their right to know.. After all, we are using their services. I would expect the same from any other company as well.
However, having said that, i don't really care much, as if the the government gets this data wihout permission, all their getting is fake info anyway.
None of its real.... That's only for me annd if they want it, get it from other sources.. there's plenty out there from.
Or try and get it from me if u know what's good for ya.
People have their right to know.. After all, we are using their services. I would expect the same from any other company as well.
However, having said that, i don't really care much, as if the the government gets this data wihout permission, all their getting is fake info anyway.
None of its real.... That's only for me annd if they want it, get it from other sources.. there's plenty out there from.
Or try and get it from me
if u know what's good for ya.The main thing with this is people who are upto no good already know they are being watched or at least know it comes with the territory. They plan their actions to include searches. Its part of their game.
Apple letting regular users know they are being searched is a good thing because it highlights waste of police resources and incompetence amongst the ranks. Waste of resources meaning you don't need to employ people to search people who don't warrant it. Incompetence highlighting they don't know what they are doing so need to rethink their operations to make them more efficient.
Apple letting regular users know they are being searched is a good thing because it highlights waste of police resources and incompetence amongst the ranks. Waste of resources meaning you don't need to employ people to search people who don't warrant it. Incompetence highlighting they don't know what they are doing so need to rethink their operations to make them more efficient.
I wonder if...
Will Apple work with the FBI and local law enforcement to report any computer it has info on regarding owned vs not paid for music, software and video content?
Obviously if you store such things in any cloud it's fair game to report to authorities but can/is Apple keeping an inventory of what's in everyone itunes library AND stored on the computer's hard drive? If they do, this is a big deal for all of the thieves who frequent Piratebay.org or other torrent sites.
Will Apple work with the FBI and local law enforcement to report any computer it has info on regarding owned vs not paid for music, software and video content?
Obviously if you store such things in any cloud it's fair game to report to authorities but can/is Apple keeping an inventory of what's in everyone itunes library AND stored on the computer's hard drive? If they do, this is a big deal for all of the thieves who frequent Piratebay.org or other torrent sites.
I'm mixed on this one. Personally, I don't have anything to hide in my iPhone. I think that whatever analyst was assigned to go over my iPhone's contents would be so bored, he'd have to add some juicy stuff. However, if I were to receive a notification that Apple had received a law enforcement request, I'd then be paranoid for weeks even though, I'm too busy being boring to have done anything.
Personally, I'd rather the government have to present YOU with the warrant then the secret peek. Before this thread, I didn't know the government had been allowing secret peeks into people's houses which is filled with just as boring stuff as my iPhone. Now, I'm wanting to add a few hidden cameras and door sensors so I'll know if Big Brother has decided to look in on my. Will they be able to turn on my Xbox One's Kinect and spy? No more naked exercise workouts.
Personally, I'd rather the government have to present YOU with the warrant then the secret peek. Before this thread, I didn't know the government had been allowing secret peeks into people's houses which is filled with just as boring stuff as my iPhone. Now, I'm wanting to add a few hidden cameras and door sensors so I'll know if Big Brother has decided to look in on my. Will they be able to turn on my Xbox One's Kinect and spy? No more naked exercise workouts.
"If you have nothing to hide..." is the typical bully boy response to this. You make it seem as if anyone caring about privacy is doing nasty things that need to be hidden away. The clear intent is to paint anyone who cares about privacy as morally and ethically inferior.
There's a good chance that Apple will get requests for example if you committed the serious crime of dating the daughter of a policeman. Or the even more serious crime of being the neighbour of a policeman who is curious about you. Or the even more serious crime of watching a violent policeman beating up someone in the street, and now they need to find some dirt on you to protect that policeman. There's a good chance that the information if it is saucy enough and you are just slightly famous will go straight to the next newspaper, or even has been paid for in advance by a newspaper.
This doesn't "only help criminals and terrorists". It has the most beneficial effect of protecting innocent people from a police state. Because I do lots of things that are none of any ****ing policeman's ****ing business, and I applaud Apple for protecting my freedom and my rights to do these things. And the right to say this without the fear that the number of speeding tickets that I receive will grow exponentially because I used the words "****ing policeman".
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If you have nothing to hide, you lead a very boring life.
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Here's what you don't get: All these laws are about protecting the rights of innocent citizens. The way to protect the rights of innocent citizens is to take away the incentives for the police to spy on people in a way that would be unacceptable if these people are innocent. That's why for example the results of illegal searches can't be used even if they prove someone is a criminal, because making these results invalid protects innocent people from illegal searches.
Since Apple is not the police, and has no idea what you are doing, asking Apple to take great care who they are alerting is ridiculous. They don't know, and they have no reason to care. Apple doesn't classify people into "innocent", "guilty", "possibly guilty". They classify people into "has an iTunes account" and "has no iTunes account", and that is all that Apple knows and needs to know.
I agree with the prosecutors. If you're up to no good and the government are checking on you its irresponsible for Apple et al to inform you, "hey you, yeh you, the feds are coming. Stop making that homemade bomb!" That makes the whistle blowers just as bad as any potential perp.
If you're not up to no good and they check on you all they will find out is when you took a **** and who you're sleeping with so whats the big deal?
If you're not up to no good and they check on you all they will find out is when you took a **** and who you're sleeping with so whats the big deal?
Being curious, I found this is the title of a book, but I couldn't actually find any examples of things that I might do quite innocently three times a day that would be felonies.
The attack on liberties in both the US and UK since 9/11 has been nothing short of a defeat by terrorism. We lost when we allowed our governments to attack our fundamental freedoms. We lost when we allowed our government to believe that we were not willing to take the risk of terrorism in order to safeguard our privacy. We're losing now because we haven't elected politicians who understand that we're losing.
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You think that the police are requesting apple to give them saucy information so they can get money from the newspaper? Apple published the amount of law Enforcement requests and it was a few thousand last year, not in the millions. The police don't care you! You are not that important!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but usage data etc. information from iOS devices are stored in Apple's servers not only from US prison...ehm citizens, but also from users all around the world (even from the free world).
How come the US government is automatically entitled to use these data ?
I don't think the fact that Apple is a US company automatically justifies such thing.
How come the US government is automatically entitled to use these data ?
I don't think the fact that Apple is a US company automatically justifies such thing.
I agree with you I'm not sure this is a good thing.
So now we're going to alert criminals they are being investigated. That would be like someone telling the drug dealers the DEA is down the street getting ready to raid them.
Ok, let's start with British police who did indeed collect information about people illegally because they were paid by newspapers to do so. I don't think US police would be any better. And I don't want you to read in the newspaper that some world famous, multiple oscar winning actor spends lots of time posting on MacRumors
Let's then talk about lots of not very important people in Britain who got caught on security cameras doing something stupid that looks funny to others, and finding themselves on TV.
Fact is, the information that Apple has about me is private, and nobodies damned business, including the polices. And if they make it their business, then at the very least I want to know about it. You may like being a gold fish spending his or her life in a glass bowl, but I don't.
More likely they shared an acquaintance with some guy who was once in a mosque that was once visited by a distant relative of someone who saw a terrorist on TV.