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Simply asked the question about what was behind the "most" aspect of the general statement that was made.

The highest I recall seeing was 92%.

In any case, it isn't unusual to find posts of throttling in the 80-90% range.

I look forward to having somewhat better battery information in iOS, though I can't help but think it will be still too limited to make well informed decisions.
 



Last week, Apple reduced the price of out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacements from $79 to $29, following a wave of controversy over power management features in older iPhones. In a note to customers, Apple said its new policy applied to "anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced", but failed to specify if this eligibility criteria was dependent on whether a given iPhone failed an official Genius Bar diagnostic test.

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This morning, French tech blog iGeneration reported that an internal Apple Store memo has been circulated which states that if a customer asks for a battery replacement on an iPhone 6 or later, then the Genius Bar should allow it, even if their phone passes Apple's own diagnostic test.

Apple has since independently confirmed to MacRumors that it will agree to replace an eligible battery for a $29 fee, regardless of whether an official diagnostic test shows that it is still able to retain less than 80 percent of its original capacity. The concession appears to have been made to mollify the anger of customers stoked by headlines suggesting that Apple artificially slows down older iPhones to drive customers to upgrade to newer models.

Anecdotal reports also suggest that customers who paid $79 to have their battery replaced before the new pricing came into effect on Saturday, December 30, will receive a refund from Apple upon request. Please let us know of your own experiences in the comments below.

Apple last week was forced to apologize over a lack of transparency regarding its process of dynamically managing the peak performance of some older iPhone models with degraded batteries to prevent unexpected shutdowns. When iOS 10.2.1 was released in February, Apple vaguely referred to "improvements" it had made to reduce occurrences of unexpected shutdowns. It only chose to explain that the changes it made may result in temporary slowdowns on some older iPhone models with degraded batteries after controversy recently reignited.

Apple can run a diagnostic on your phone's battery remotely - you don't need to visit an Apple Store. To initiate the battery diagnostic/replacement process, contact Apple Support by phone, online chat, email, or Twitter. Alternatively, you can schedule a Genius Bar appointment at an Apple Store with the Apple Support app. You can also inquire about a battery replacement with select Apple Authorized Service Providers.

Article Link: Apple Will Replace the Battery in Your iPhone 6 or Later Even if It Passes a Genius Bar Diagnostic Test
[doublepost=1515515413][/doublepost]I bought an iphone 5c in late November of 2014. Last spring an update screwed my phone up badly. I'd be talking on it and the phone shut down a rebooted, taking about 2 - 3 reboots to finally straighten it out. A month later, another update and then it worked fine until the next update that totally messed it up. Constantly shutting down and rebooting. About 3 weeks ago, i went online to find out why my phone was constantly getting "call failed". I did everything they said to do and resetting all settings seemed to fix the problem and the phone worked great - for about 10 days. Now, I'm getting "call failed" constantly. I paid $450.00 cash for the phone when I bought it and I am on a low fixed income and cannot afford a new phone. Apple should replace the phone or the battery even though my phone is older than a 6. Apple's updates is what messed up my phone. I've had 2 macbook pros in the last 5 years that are both broken - the back lights burned out of both and I'm told that they cannot be fixed, so now I'm without a computer as well and cannot afford a new one. I'm finding that Mac's are nothing more than very expensive pieces of junk. Clean up your act, Apple! I expect a new phone replacement at YOUR cost!
 
[doublepost=1515515413][/doublepost]I've had 2 macbook pros in the last 5 years that are both broken - the back lights burned out of both and I'm told that they cannot be fixed, so now I'm without a computer as well and cannot afford a new one.

In the UK most items you buy are covered for 6 years from the date of purchase against manufacturing faults, not sure what the rule is in the US but if you would expect the backlight to last for more than a couple of years on a device costing thousands of pounds/dollars.

If the backlight gave out quite soon then you could argue that the defect must have existed when it was purchased, I'd speak to Apple and make a formal complaint (again in the UK they have to acknowledge and respond within a certain timescale), don't waste time on Live Chat with a numpty who has no power to do anything, send a proper letter. If they won't offer a fix or replacement then contact your local trading standards/consumer rights group for advice.

My next step would be to take them to small claims court, it's cheap, quick and painless, you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain. I think they'd settle with you just to avoid the hassle.

Look at how Amazon don't get you to return cheap items you request a refund of, it's not worth their time and effort shipping it all over the country to restock something they can only sell as b-grade stock for a fiver... Obviously a MacBook is a lot more expensive but can you imagine the money Apple's legal teams are on, they ain't going to be sending someone to represent them in some small claims court in Backwater, USA.

To be honest though, if your experience is that negative the best thing you can do is vote with your wallet and not buy any more Apple devices in future.
 
I was just denied a battery replacement after paying them $40 for battery tax and shipping. It is being returned to me unfixed because they could not reproduce the issue. I guess batteries have to be degraded to a certain point to get this service. Pure Bull ****.
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I was just denied a battery replacement after paying them $40 for battery tax and shipping. It is being returned to me unfixed because they could not reproduce the issue. I guess batteries have to be degraded to a certain point to get this service. Pure Bull ****.
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Seems like you need to contact them and tell them that their own policy is that they have to replace the battery if you ask them to and pay for it, under this new replacement program.
 



Last week, Apple reduced the price of out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacements from $79 to $29, following a wave of controversy over power management features in older iPhones. In a note to customers, Apple said its new policy applied to "anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced", but failed to specify if this eligibility criteria was dependent on whether a given iPhone failed an official Genius Bar diagnostic test.

slow-iphone.jpg

This morning, French tech blog iGeneration reported that an internal Apple Store memo has been circulated which states that if a customer asks for a battery replacement on an iPhone 6 or later, then the Genius Bar should allow it, even if their phone passes Apple's own diagnostic test.

Apple has since independently confirmed to MacRumors that it will agree to replace an eligible battery for a $29 fee, regardless of whether an official diagnostic test shows that it is still able to retain less than 80 percent of its original capacity. The concession appears to have been made to mollify the anger of customers stoked by headlines suggesting that Apple artificially slows down older iPhones to drive customers to upgrade to newer models.

Anecdotal reports also suggest that customers who paid $79 to have their battery replaced before the new pricing came into effect on Saturday, December 30, will receive a refund from Apple upon request. Please let us know of your own experiences in the comments below.

Apple last week was forced to apologize over a lack of transparency regarding its process of dynamically managing the peak performance of some older iPhone models with degraded batteries to prevent unexpected shutdowns. When iOS 10.2.1 was released in February, Apple vaguely referred to "improvements" it had made to reduce occurrences of unexpected shutdowns. It only chose to explain that the changes it made may result in temporary slowdowns on some older iPhone models with degraded batteries after controversy recently reignited.

Apple can run a diagnostic on your phone's battery remotely - you don't need to visit an Apple Store. To initiate the battery diagnostic/replacement process, contact Apple Support by phone, online chat, email, or Twitter. Alternatively, you can schedule a Genius Bar appointment at an Apple Store with the Apple Support app. You can also inquire about a battery replacement with select Apple Authorized Service Providers.

Article Link: Apple Will Replace the Battery in Your iPhone 6 or Later Even if It Passes a Genius Bar Diagnostic Test
I just sent my sons iPhone 6 in for a new battery and they they said it has a 3rd party screen that caused the battery damage. I’ve never had the screen replaced ever. I’ve never taken it to an Apple store or any other place. Never had an issue with the battery until this update. They want another $129 dollars on top of the $40 for battery and shipping. I’m obviously fighting this claim but I’m very disappointed in Apple. We’ve always been an Apple family...I still have an iPod classic that works perfectly fine. That’s the reason I switched to Apple they’ve always had dependable products. I would go through PCs every year but our Macs are working perfectly after 5 years. But they aren’t the company they used to be. I think Steve jobs would be very unhappy with what they’ve become.
 
I just sent my sons iPhone 6 in for a new battery and they they said it has a 3rd party screen that caused the battery damage. I’ve never had the screen replaced ever. I’ve never taken it to an Apple store or any other place. Never had an issue with the battery until this update. They want another $129 dollars on top of the $40 for battery and shipping. I’m obviously fighting this claim but I’m very disappointed in Apple. We’ve always been an Apple family...I still have an iPod classic that works perfectly fine. That’s the reason I switched to Apple they’ve always had dependable products. I would go through PCs every year but our Macs are working perfectly after 5 years. But they aren’t the company they used to be. I think Steve jobs would be very unhappy with what they’ve become.
Believe it or not, all kinds of weird things where customers were turned down or charged for something or something similar happened even under Steve Jobs.
 
Just got my iPhone 7 battery replaced and they charged me $0. I think it is because I have AppleCare.
 
I haven't read through the entire thread but just a warning for those who didn't know like I did. Apple won't replace the battery if it appears that the phone had been tampered with by a third party.

Six months ago, my iphone 6s (out of warranty) was dying even on 60% in fairly cold weather. I had the battery replaced by a third party and when the problem still continued I booked a second battery replacement with Apple. After waiting four weeks for the battery to arrive, dropping it off at the apple store and picking it up a day later, I was told they couldn't do the replacement because it looked like the phone had been opened by a third party. To add further insult to injury, they had on hand a replacement phone to sell to me for £270!!! The person I dealt with also suggested I sell my phone to them which is aggravating because her words earlier was: "we can't replace the battery because it's been tampered by a third party and it could result in the loss of life." Seriously. They won't replace the battery for "safety reasons" but they will buy the phone from me (and presumably refurb it) and offer to sell me a refurb?

What a waste of time. They should have made this clear when I logged the issue with Apple.
 
That's good news for a lot of people.

A warning for iphone users. I was just refused a battery replacement on my iphone 6s at the Apple store at Oakridge Mall in Vancouver. They said my phone failed the diagnostics test and offered me a new phone for $400. Note the SAME situation was happening with another guy who was furious. Both he & I left without replacing but I then purchased a new iphone 7 from Rogers for $400 at the same Oakridge mall instead as it is my provider etc... etc..

I then took the phone to a 3rd party repair shop so that maybe I could give the phone to my kids if the repair wasn't too much. You guessed it. They replaced the battery for $70 and it is fine.

I believe Apple is running a massive scam where they are now simply trying to get people to buy a new phone for $400. Absolutely disgraceful.
 
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A warning for iphone users. I was just refused a battery replacement on my iphone 6s at the Apple store at Oakridge Mall in Vancouver. They said my phone failed the diagnostics test and offered me a new phone for $400. Note the SAME situation was happening with another guy who was furious. Both he & I left without replacing but I then purchased a new iphone 7 from Rogers for $400 at the same Oakridge mall instead as it is my provider etc... etc..

I then took the phone to a 3rd party repair shop so that maybe I could give the phone to my kids if the repair wasn't too much. You guessed it. They replaced the battery for $70 and it is fine.

I believe Apple is running a massive scam where they are now simply trying to get people to buy a new phone for $400. Absolutely disgraceful.
What was the exact failing part of diagnostics?
 
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What was the exact failing part of diagnostics?

They wouldn't even tell me. I asked them if they could email me the results and they said that wasn't possible. They just told me that I had ONE choice and that was to buy a new phone. They completely refused to replace my battery. I have spent $10k at this store in the last year. Bought a MacBook Air, Ipad, 1T desktop... etc... Brutal. Period. End of story. :(
 
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They wouldn't even tell me. I asked them if they could email me the results and they said that wasn't possible. They just told me that I had ONE choice and that was to buy a new phone. They completely refused to replace my battery. I have spent $10k at this store in the last year. Bought a MacBook Air, Ipad, 1T desktop... etc... Brutal. Period. End of story. :(
Seriously? The times I had to go in and they did the test the system automatically emailed me. Same for my daughter which is handy as I then don’t have to hear the story secondhand.

And you say this was an official store? I would put in an official complained as that is not how they operate.
 
They wouldn't even tell me. I asked them if they could email me the results and they said that wasn't possible. They just told me that I had ONE choice and that was to buy a new phone. They completely refused to replace my battery. I have spent $10k at this store in the last year. Bought a MacBook Air, Ipad, 1T desktop... etc... Brutal. Period. End of story. :(
Something's off there. You might want to try a different Apple store, or try to go to management at the one you were at. At the very least they are supposed to give you more information about it all.
 
Seriously? The times I had to go in and they did the test the system automatically emailed me. Same for my daughter which is handy as I then don’t have to hear the story secondhand.

And you say this was an official store? I would put in an official complained as that is not how they operate.

It is absolutely an official store. I am going in this morning to complain. It's too bad. I even started off yesterday by telling them about the great service I always get at that store. I've been going there for 10 yrs at the very least.
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Something's off there. You might want to try a different Apple store, or try to go to management at the one you were at. At the very least they are supposed to give you more information about it all.
I think the manager really sucks. I simply cannot believe they wouldn't just TRY and replace the battery first before telling me I need to drop another $400+ on a new phone. Brutal.
 
any idea how long it takes? I have a 6s plus and a 7 plus that I'd like to get the battery replaced in. If I do an appointment could they do everything same day?
 
It is absolutely an official store. I am going in this morning to complain. It's too bad. I even started off yesterday by telling them about the great service I always get at that store. I've been going there for 10 yrs at the very least.
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I think the manager really sucks. I simply cannot believe they wouldn't just TRY and replace the battery first before telling me I need to drop another $400+ on a new phone. Brutal.
Well, there are some cases where they can refuse some repairs like if they see that the device has moisture damage or some type of physical damage or perhaps previous unauthorized 3rd party work or something like that. But they have to at least tell you what the issue/reasoning is.
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any idea how long it takes? I have a 6s plus and a 7 plus that I'd like to get the battery replaced in. If I do an appointment could they do everything same day?
Depends on your store and if they have batteries and how the actual replacement goes (if they potentially run into any issues or not).
 
Well, there are some cases where they can refuse some repairs like if they see that the device has moisture damage or some type of physical damage or perhaps previous unauthorized 3rd party work or something like that. But they have to at least tell you what the issue/reasoning is.
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Depends on your store and if they have batteries and how the actual replacement goes (if they potentially run into any issues or not).

Hmm, I've gone to a 3rd party store who does good work, pay 50 bucks for a new battery, I have to debate which is more convenient. That 3rd party store is about 10 minutes away and they're done in an hour, vs a 1 hour drive to the Apple store, and potentially can't get it replaced same day....
 
A warning for iphone users. I was just refused a battery replacement on my iphone 6s at the Apple store at Oakridge Mall in Vancouver. They said my phone failed the diagnostics test and offered me a new phone for $400. Note the SAME situation was happening with another guy who was furious. Both he & I left without replacing but I then purchased a new iphone 7 from Rogers for $400 at the same Oakridge mall instead as it is my provider etc... etc..

I then took the phone to a 3rd party repair shop so that maybe I could give the phone to my kids if the repair wasn't too much. You guessed it. They replaced the battery for $70 and it is fine.

I believe Apple is running a massive scam where they are now simply trying to get people to buy a new phone for $400. Absolutely disgraceful.

Did they release the phone back to you or did they insist that they had to take possession of the phone failing diagnostics?
 
How could they just keep someone's property?

Maybe I am getting foggy with the posts here, but I remember someone else posting here on the forums going in with a problem and Apple wanted to hold on to the phone to investigate the battery or something, under safety reasons.

Aside from all that, hasn't Apple's main defense against the "Right to Repair" bills in Nebraska been that consumers do not technically 'own" the device, they just retain a license to use the software (and hardware?)
 
Maybe I am getting foggy with the posts here, but I remember someone else posting here on the forums going in with a problem and Apple wanted to hold on to the phone to investigate the battery or something, under safety reasons.

Aside from all that, hasn't Apple's main defense against the "Right to Repair" bills in Nebraska been that consumers do not technically 'own" the device, they just retain a license to use the software (and hardware?)
There's the license to use the software, but the physical device itself is something that would certainly be owned and property of the consumer (unless they are let's say renting it in some fashion or something else like that).
 
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Maybe I am getting foggy with the posts here, but I remember someone else posting here on the forums going in with a problem and Apple wanted to hold on to the phone to investigate the battery or something, under safety reasons.

that for claims like "my phone caught on fire and burned me" and you can always refuse.

failing to fail a test is no such issue. and I'd like to know the exact date Mr 'I have spent thousands' went in. cause as of like Jan 15th they stopped running the test. if you really wanted to spend the money they were happy to take it.
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Yeah, I'm calling BS.

only 3 posts, all in this thread and there are freaking MR articles about how they don't require a failing battery test right now.

yeah I'm smelling the same thing.
 
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