Fine. I did. Now, are you going to refund the 50 bucks I was forced to spend buying the single button mouse I didn't want?
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Fine. I did. Now, are you going to refund the 50 bucks I was forced to spend buying the single button mouse I didn't want?
e.
They'd almost certainly sell more computers if they had more buttons standard. That's the bottom line.
True. I won't buy this BT stuff though. At least they could have made it match the new G5 look. Aluminum KB and mouse would be cool. Specially if that big giant button was all cheese grate style.
It is truly disappointing that Apple couldn't have at least given us two mouse buttons. A scroll wheel would have been nice for sure, but I am not caught up on that. There's ZERO excuse not to have a second button, no matter which way you want to try and spin it.
Apple went through all this trouble to provide us a wireless keyboard and mouse but couldn't have added a second button.
For shame.
Apple went through all this trouble to provide us a wireless keyboard and mouse but couldn't have added a second button.
For shame.
Sell it then - you get almost all your money back selling them on eBay.
I bought 11 iMacs last year, and sold all the keyboards and mice and all sold within $5 of the Apple asking price.
I am glad to see people calling Apple on this. Their wired and now wireless peripherals completely suck.
I detest these keyboards, and I am sorry, but the Apple Mouse is useless. Only an insane, die-hard Mac zealot could justify it by "yeah, well control click is just as easy!" ??? Um, no it isnt?
2 minutes with a Kensington Studio Mouse and tell me the Apple relic is still superior. You wont. You couldnt.
I am not begrudging people the strange desire for these peripherals, but it sucks that Apple does not offer some variety BTO. The price for them is built into the systems, and you cannot remove them BTO. That is BS. At the very least, let me remove a keyboard and mouse altogether from an order.
I detest these keyboards, and I am sorry, but the Apple Mouse is useless. Only an insane, die-hard Mac zealot could justify it by "yeah, well control click is just as easy!" ??? Um, no it isnt?
2 minutes with a Kensington Studio Mouse and tell me the Apple relic is still superior. You wont. You couldnt.
I am not begrudging people the strange desire for these peripherals, but it sucks that Apple does not offer some variety BTO. The price for them is built into the systems, and you cannot remove them BTO. That is BS. At the very least, let me remove a keyboard and mouse altogether from an order.
my hope was for the laptops
I didn't really care about an Apple 2 button scroller for my desktop, I was hoping to see a two button scroll mouse because that might mean the possiblity of seeing two buttons on the laptops some day (where I can't just plugin in a 3rd party mouse at will). Oh well, good thing the mild speed bump on the PowerBook was also disappointing.
I didn't really care about an Apple 2 button scroller for my desktop, I was hoping to see a two button scroll mouse because that might mean the possiblity of seeing two buttons on the laptops some day (where I can't just plugin in a 3rd party mouse at will). Oh well, good thing the mild speed bump on the PowerBook was also disappointing.
All I can say is that maybe Steve will finally get it thru his head that they are behind the times on this mouse issue when these things rot on the shelves. I sure don't think many people will rush to pay $69 for a wireless one button mouse.
The new PowerBooks are really nice though, anyone that thought they would have G5s this soon was pretty delusional anyway.
The new PowerBooks are really nice though, anyone that thought they would have G5s this soon was pretty delusional anyway.
The purchasers didn't have apple.com email addresses did they? ;-)
I find it difficult to believe that people would willingly buy these things for any reason except nostalia and completeness.
Actually, our college kept getting them stolen from our video labs and I was more than suprised at that. As for BT in an academic environment... Haahahahhahahahhahhahhahhah!
ROFL!
e.
Originally posted by ImAlwaysRight
In case it hasn't been said yet, ONLY one button and still no scroll wheel!
Did you say ONE button?
Hmm, there's a suprise.
I think you should at least glance at some of the previous posts before blurting.
;-)
e.
When is everyone just going to figure out that Apple still believes in the concept of the 1 button mouse. I am sure somewhere there is some document they are sitting on that studied people and ergonomics or simplicity. I use a one-button Apple mouse and like it a lot, of course I am a teacher and not a graphic designer.
Obviously they didn't spend much R&D dollars on this. It seems they just slotted in a bluetooth connector and just plopped the product out. However, we've been following the rumors and know they've been working on this bluetooth mouse/keyboard for almost a year. And this is what they come up with as revolutionary? How many units do you think Apple will sell?
All you guys are just wrong. Read the following from Apple's web site :
So it's actually three buttons altogether!
But seriously, I am very glad they did not move to multi-button/scrollwheel mice. One of the reasons I like Apple computers are the one-button mice (and trackpads). It makes them so easy to use. In the PC world, they are starting to mount whole keyboards onto the mouse (5 buttons + scrollwheel), where will this lead? And as it has been said before on this thread, you can always buy the mouse of your choice.
But if Apple themselves would offer multi-button mice, then also all the software for the Mac would start not only to take favour of them, but to require them, which is a very bad thing. So I'm perfectly satisfied with today's announcement.
I'm going to have mine (and a keyboard) tomorrow.
So it's actually three buttons altogether!
But seriously, I am very glad they did not move to multi-button/scrollwheel mice. One of the reasons I like Apple computers are the one-button mice (and trackpads). It makes them so easy to use. In the PC world, they are starting to mount whole keyboards onto the mouse (5 buttons + scrollwheel), where will this lead? And as it has been said before on this thread, you can always buy the mouse of your choice.
But if Apple themselves would offer multi-button mice, then also all the software for the Mac would start not only to take favour of them, but to require them, which is a very bad thing. So I'm perfectly satisfied with today's announcement.
I'm going to have mine (and a keyboard) tomorrow.
Sell? frankly I think they're going to have a hard time giving these things away. I reckon that even if they included them in a system, people would ask to have them replaced by wired versions or removed altogether. I know I would next time.
Ho hum, at least there's no wire to get tangled up in the junk drawer
e.
I find it surprising that so many people expected anything BUT a one-button mouse. Stubborn? Yes. Steve's ego at work? Possibly. Do I expect one in the near future? No.
When I first switched to a Mac, I found it a little hard to get used to but now I like the one-button mouse.
Story: My parents have an iMac. When my Mom went to a library to check her email while on vacation, she could not figure out the PC and "hated the stupid mouse."
At least one person likes the Apple mouse. Oh, and I probably will shell out the 70 bucks for one. Control-click doesn't bother me.
Squire
When I first switched to a Mac, I found it a little hard to get used to but now I like the one-button mouse.
Story: My parents have an iMac. When my Mom went to a library to check her email while on vacation, she could not figure out the PC and "hated the stupid mouse."
At least one person likes the Apple mouse.
Oh, and I probably will shell out the 70 bucks for one. Control-click doesn't bother me. Squire
Although disappointed the new mouse isn't multi-button (very disappointed, I hate plugging the bloody MS dongle into my laptop, and no, I'm not paying over the odds for a MS BlueTooth mouse), I'm not surprised.
I'm more surprised and disappointed that it's not aluminum/aluminum style. With everything heading that way, it seems interesting that the keyboards and mice haven't.
Shame. Maybe I'll buy the keyboard, but I doubt it. Definitely not getting the mouse.
AppleMatt
I'm more surprised and disappointed that it's not aluminum/aluminum style. With everything heading that way, it seems interesting that the keyboards and mice haven't.
Shame. Maybe I'll buy the keyboard, but I doubt it. Definitely not getting the mouse.
AppleMatt
I'm going to get one asap.
I want one. A tailless mouse that is. Who needs two buttons on the little bugger.
A scroll wheel is nice, but I don't miss it.
I want a BT mouse to use on the road with my superb 12" powerbook. And besides being incompatible (for now?), the M$ mouse looks like a turd compared to the Apple one.
Everyone around me considers me a wintel power user. Ever since my parents' 8088 back in 1984 I've been the family PC guy and for the last 10 years my colleagues call on me because the IT Department is very slow to respond to their problems (which thanks to Mr. Gates are many).
And still, some 6 months after switching, people call me when they run into Wintel-trouble, although it is increasingly hard to navigate someone over the phone through all the different configuration windows and options by heart.
I've been finding my way around Jaguar (and the BSD system) for a while now. My friends using Macs are increasingly using me as their help-desk. Typically, their questions are trivial compared to the Wintel ones. Coming from the wintel platform, they seem just lazy to me - Wintel users are much more used to figuring out settings and finding their way around their systems - Windows forces them to.
Before switching, I thought I would certainly miss my trusty right mouse button to fiddle with settings. I don't. When I switched to the original GUI innovators I figured I would make even better use of my mouse. I don't. I use my keyboard much more. This is a good thing. Taking my hand away from the keyboard disrupts my typing/workflow. Even my RSI is getting better. Because my left hand is over the keyboard at all times, pressing the ctrl key is no trouble at all. I still have to work on a Compaq P4 for one day a week. That PC has a 2 button mouse w/ scroll-wheel. And I find myself control-clicking all the time.
In the mean time, I find myself spreading the good word among my friends. I've seen the light! No believer is more zealous than a recently converted one.
M.
(How's that for a first post...)
I want one. A tailless mouse that is. Who needs two buttons on the little bugger.
A scroll wheel is nice, but I don't miss it.
I want a BT mouse to use on the road with my superb 12" powerbook. And besides being incompatible (for now?), the M$ mouse looks like a turd compared to the Apple one.
Everyone around me considers me a wintel power user. Ever since my parents' 8088 back in 1984 I've been the family PC guy and for the last 10 years my colleagues call on me because the IT Department is very slow to respond to their problems (which thanks to Mr. Gates are many).
And still, some 6 months after switching, people call me when they run into Wintel-trouble, although it is increasingly hard to navigate someone over the phone through all the different configuration windows and options by heart.
I've been finding my way around Jaguar (and the BSD system) for a while now. My friends using Macs are increasingly using me as their help-desk. Typically, their questions are trivial compared to the Wintel ones. Coming from the wintel platform, they seem just lazy to me - Wintel users are much more used to figuring out settings and finding their way around their systems - Windows forces them to.
Before switching, I thought I would certainly miss my trusty right mouse button to fiddle with settings. I don't. When I switched to the original GUI innovators I figured I would make even better use of my mouse. I don't. I use my keyboard much more. This is a good thing. Taking my hand away from the keyboard disrupts my typing/workflow. Even my RSI is getting better. Because my left hand is over the keyboard at all times, pressing the ctrl key is no trouble at all. I still have to work on a Compaq P4 for one day a week. That PC has a 2 button mouse w/ scroll-wheel. And I find myself control-clicking all the time.
In the mean time, I find myself spreading the good word among my friends. I've seen the light! No believer is more zealous than a recently converted one.
M.
(How's that for a first post...)