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Apple Wireless Keyboard and Mouse

Re: I'm going to get one asap.

Originally posted by iHack
Taking my hand away from the keyboard disrupts my typing/workflow. Even my RSI is getting better. Because my left hand is over the keyboard at all times, pressing the ctrl key is no trouble at all.
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Yah know i've never noticed i do that as well....my hand hovers over the keyboard...

As a pure Windows user atm i can't see the whole one button and ctrl+clicks getting to me, fine i use my wheel and right mouse button at home but at work i dont get the luxury of a wheel...

Guess i'll have to see how i go :)

(sorry for bein OT)
 
Where's the freedom in a 1 button mouse?

I don't care how cordless it is, a mouse with a cord, two buttons and a scrollwheel makes me work much faster. I wonder if anyone actually will buy that mouse.
 
I want a two-button scrolling mouse from Apple because with their strength in industrial design, it will be the best mouse ever designed.

That said, I think this is a case of software driving harware decisions. The philosophy that OS X, and previously OS9, were designed upon is that everything is where you need it, when you need it. Commands aren't hidden in places you wouldn't expect them, or wouldn't know how to access them. This is different from the Windows side, where software designers consistently hide functions in the catch-all right click menu. Ever notice how poorly ported PC apps tend to hide functionality from the user?

Apple is simply continuing to pust their software philosophy through their hardware, putting their money where their mouth is. But I still want a two button scrolling mouse from Apple.
 
Too many buttons

Obviously the one button mouse is overkill. If Apple really wanted to make a true user friendly mouse it would have no buttons. That way no one would ever get confused...

>barf<

I can't believe this...
 
I know that there are third party mice that have more buttons, but the point is that Apple lost a sale here! If the mouse would have been two button and scroll wheel I would have bought one even if it was euro 100 (inclusing tax).

I'm a professional user and need the functionality (and my Logitec mouse gives me this). I'm also working on a PC an Mac both side by side so it's would be very unconvenient in switching between the two different mouses. On the other hand, my grilfriend, parents and other family members like the one button mouse...

The new mouse looks good, but Apple just isn't earning my money here. And I hate it that you have to buy a single button mouse with each new computer (maybe I should go the eBay route next time).
 
Originally posted by esheep2001
Err, Apple.

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Err, no one forced you to buy anything.
You don't like the bundled gear, simply don't buy the whole package.
 
Originally posted by johnnowak
It's like you people never heard of the freakin page up and page down buttons.

Works much faster, and less prone to finger cramps and pain.

As for the right click.. the key command is usually faster anyway, so who cares? For those things where you NEED to control click, or for programs that require multi-button mice... they're 50 bucks. Go buy one.
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control click and page up/page down aren't faster. They require you to remove your hands from home row on the keyboard.
Two button scrollers are superior. I've NEVER heard anyone prefer a one button mouse after they've used a two button scroller long enough to figure out how it works (that is more than 30 seconds).

What gets me is why Apple is integrating more features with two button scrollers yet they continue to ship this crap? Just about everything in OS X takes advantage of the two button scroller and Expose is just made for the feature. My finder is programmed for the 'f9' feature when I push the scroller down and it's really nice.

I'd never buy one of these. $70 bucks for an outdated wireless mouse. Un-freaking-believable.
I'm totally baffled why Apple doesn't ship a one button 'idiot' mouse with the box and AT LEAST offer a decent optional mouse.
They totally blew this one. They are just too stubborn to listen to what the people want.

ffakr.
 
Originally posted by Stelliform
He is talking about new purchases, and he has a point. My wife wanted to use her new Apple mouse, and couldn't figure out why I was putting the old PC's mouse on her new iMac. She understand after a few seconds on the Mac.

I hate surfing without a scroll wheel on any computer. It would be nice to at least have the option for a scroll wheel from Apple.
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What point would that be?
Apple said buy our computer or die?
No one was forced to buy anything in this regards.
While I agree the one button mouse is not for me, I prefer a trackball.
But no one forced me or anyone else for that matter to buy a computer with a one button mouse. I bought it knewing full well I would be getting a mouse I did not want. Even in that case I got the cheesy keyboard that came with the G4s at the time. Those narrow ones.
 
While I'm not concerned with the missing right button (being so used to using ctrl-click), I still feel that the people who would purchase a bluetooth mouse for their current machine would be the type of user that would appreciate a more complex mouse.

The element I am most disapointed with is the fact the D-Link DWB-120M will not work with the new Apple keyboard and Mouse. What would have changed so much in the bluetooth interface that forced making the previous bluetooth device redundant?

This was the kind of device you could expect to purchase without needing to upgrade in less than a year...
 
I really don't understand how Apple puts out so many well thought out, innovative, market-leading products - and then continue to offer such a poor choice of mice.


I've been waiting since April for a Bluetooth mouse for my 17" AlBook.

Looks like I'll have to give Microsoft a little money.....<shudder>
 
Funny thing is, my previous argument about software philosophy notwithstanding, Apple's target is not so much first-time computer buyers anymore.

So many people have owned or used a PC by now, that their target market is already used to having at least two buttons, and probably a wheel. And, though it can be argued that the Mac experience is different and doesn't necessitate a two-button/wheel mouse, it CAN NOT be argued that Apple's first-time Mac buyers are neophytes anymore.
 
I bet they don't sell very many of these.

What's the point? Who cares if my keyboard and mouse has a cord. At least I don't have to keep switching them on and off and replacing the batteries.

No second button and no scroll make these things very unattractive purchases.

As others have stated, it's just bad ergonomic design.
 
One friggin button

I can't believe they think someone is gonna put out good money for a one button mouse, only the most die hard Mac tradionalists want a one button mouse. I hate that I have to break up my nice new set of computing goodies to buy an uglier but much more functional mouse after just puttin out 3 grand for a state of the art computer. I have a collection of brand newe apple mice i suppose i will try to give away to poor people in an underdeveloped country. Or to Steve Jobs.

Steve not Jobs
 
hey I like the encryption

The encryption is something I never thought of. That's a really nice thing to have. Imagine if someone was just interceptiong your signals and reading what you were typing as you typed it. That would be bad. No 2 button is bad, but yeah.
 
I'd be perfectly happy with one button if Apple would implement click-and-hold contextual menus throughout OS X (instead of or in addition to control-click). It was all over the place in OS 9, why not X?
 
Re: hey I like the encryption

Originally posted by jamka
The encryption is something I never thought of. That's a really nice thing to have. Imagine if someone was just interceptiong your signals and reading what you were typing as you typed it. That would be bad. No 2 button is bad, but yeah.
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I assume you've heard what the white stuff on top of the bird crap is haven't you? :eek:
 
I've completely given up on apple learning that only 5% of consumers only want 1 button (that is speculation, not fact, but I bet it is darn close).

Bah, another piece of expensive hardware from apple that I would never dream of using when I can get better things for less money.

Bad job apple.

scem0
 
Same loser mouse and keyboard. Now with added hassle and expense of batteries. Brilliant. I hope these are never standard. Can you imagine what a pain this will be for schools to deal with? Peripherals will disappear and stop working. Kids will be shut out of computers because there's no AAs around. Just stupid.
 
What a pity, what a disappointment.

A BT 2-button mouse with scroll, bundled with a wired and illuminated keyboard would have been more like it ........
 
Originally posted by encro
The element I am most disapointed with is the fact the D-Link DWB-120M will not work with the new Apple keyboard and Mouse. What would have changed so much in the bluetooth interface that forced making the previous bluetooth device redundant?

This was the kind of device you could expect to purchase without needing to upgrade in less than a year...
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IIRC the DWB-120M only supports one bluetooth connection at a time whereas the DBT-120 supports 7 at a time. It *might* work but you would only be able to use 1 device at a time which is pretty useless.

the DBT-120 shouldn't be too expensive tho as i just got one from ingram micro and it only cost £10

i wonder if i can hook up the mouse and keyboard to my p800 ;) :D
 
Originally posted by rog
Same loser mouse and keyboard. Now with added hassle and expense of batteries. Brilliant. I hope these are never standard. Can you imagine what a pain this will be for schools to deal with? Peripherals will disappear and stop working. Kids will be shut out of computers because there's no AAs around. Just stupid.
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Only an idiot would buy these for schools. I just hope they never get made part of the standard order, but that may be the only way the mice will see the light of day.

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USB

i dont think the keyboard has the USB ports so i dont think getting just the keyboard and a USB mouse will work...unless you have your mac facing backwards (the cord is too short)
 
Originally posted by mrwalker
Thank you for insulting 99% of Mac users.

Thank you also for clearifying that what I have been happily using on my Macs for 15 years are useless.

What enlightenment...

(I also have plenty of PCs with 2-button mice. I HATE THEM!!!)
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Haha, check out the rest of these posts, mate. The one-button era is OVER. Virtually every post bemoans this decades-old relic.

Virtually all computer users are used to, and want, multi-button mice. Exhibit 1: How many 1-button peripherals are there available to Windows users? Are there even any? It is considered to be a downgrade.

One might say, "but Windows uses right clicks." Mac OS has used them just as much for many years now. Not OS 6 necessarily, but we arent on OS 6 anymore. One button made sense THEN. Not now.

I argue that the vast majority of Mac users want at least a 2 button/scrollwheel mouse. I am not begrudging those who are so used to 1-button living; more power to you and them. I have no problem with Apple offering one or the other. I have no problem Apple offering buyers to eliminate the mouse and keyboard BTO to save money. Alas, these are not options.

Who in their right mind would shell out 70 bucks for a one button BT mouse? OK let's go over this for those in the nosebleeds. BT is not on low end Macs. The "simple consumers" who would want "simple 1 button mice" don't have BT for the most part. Meanwhile, BT is now standard for power users. Power users don't need a patronizing "1 button is simpler" attitude. That's why they are power users.

Apple is being completely stubborn and moronic on this issue. Either improve this stuff or at least dont REQUIRE us to buy it with a system! Pretty please, that is :)
 
Originally posted by esheep2001
Is it just me, or do other people think that the sales of BT mice will be exactly zero?

Anyone think Apple may get the message then?

Anyone here actually going to buy one? I may get a KB but the mouse?!

Mark my words, the mice will start to become standard on BT enabled systems soon.

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I'm think of getting a keyboard. the keys on my current one sticks.

I am all in favor of an all out ban on the mouse. apple users rise up against the tyranny of the one button mouse! seriously, if we ignore it, apples sales will drop, but they deserve to have mice sales flop. they did not supply our demand. i hope it fails (which im sure it will). stupid apple.

BTW- what happend to software announcements? or the bling bling paris expo ipod? or IPOD ACCESORIES? this just proves my point that in every way possible, paris is useless.
 
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