Well I don't know how this is going to relate to the Amazon Echo screened devices that I used to love but got rid of them all cuz the screen was crappy and mostly because of all the unwanted ads. so if Apple does this right, I am interested.
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Apple Working on All-New Operating System
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"The platform ... will have multi-user support..."
Can we get multiuser support on iOS? Thank you
Can we get multiuser support on iOS? Thank you
I've long dreamed of a device that runs purely on Siri alone.
Thankfully, it was never forced on us. You could just opt for list view.
Does anyone use that grid? First thing I do with a new watch is switch apps to List View.
Already there for Education & Corporate.
Shared iPad overview
Shared iPad allows more than one user to sign in to an iPad. The iPad needs to be supervised before Shared iPad can be used.
They purposely don't offer it so they can gouge people into buying more iPads.
I have no clue why people defend this company sometimes.
(not referring to you, I just mean in general)
I'm wondering if the operating system for the Fold will be new or simply iOS.
"all new"
Copland was an "All New Operating System" (and perhaps an example of why we don't get an All New Operating System these days), but even in this era of clickbait headlines and AI slop, you're not going to call another flavor of iOS with some new APIs an "All New Operating System". Do better, MacRumors.
Copland was an "All New Operating System" (and perhaps an example of why we don't get an All New Operating System these days), but even in this era of clickbait headlines and AI slop, you're not going to call another flavor of iOS with some new APIs an "All New Operating System". Do better, MacRumors.
That isn’t multi-user “support”, that was a desperate hack to avoid losing more market to ChromeBooks.
It just fast auto replaces the single user.
That would risk stifling innovation.
When I did an in store demo of the Vision Pro I went in very sceptical, but was ultimately very impressed by its functionality and ease of use. I can see its uses, and if it wasn’t so expensive I’d be tempted. But ultimately as a showcase of their technology it is very good.
Personally I think Apple should continue to try and innovate with new products and segments.
Yes they will have a few misses but if they did not innovate they’d get criticised even more.🤷🏽
You have to give them some credit for at least M series chips, the advances in power and function was pretty impressive.
And regardless of its mass market success the Vision Pro has some good technical innovations.
Sometimes I have to help my mom using her iPad. I noticed the OS getting a little more complicated.
With macOS, at least I can tweak the way I like.
With macOS, at least I can tweak the way I like.
I really hope the HomePods and minis get a major update to run homeOS. They seriously need a better OS.
The major upgrade will necessitate you to purchase new HomePods & minis!😆
Just what we need, even more platforms for Crowdstrike to break…Maybe they should ask Microsoft for some help, a nice windows kernel
Like the HomePod?
That's pretty much what Jobs said when he returned in the late 90s.
Then he ignored his own advice, went off on a complete tangent and made a music player. Then a phone. Lunacy!
No wonder Apple has been doomed for the last quarter century!
Apple wouldn't have done ANY of that, iPhone or otherwise, without first cutting such bloat and refocusing its efforts; they would be bankrupt a long time ago now.That's pretty much what Jobs said when he returned in the late 90s.
Then he ignored his own advice, went off on a complete tangent and made a music player. Then a phone. Lunacy!
No wonder Apple has been doomed for the last quarter century!
Not to mention that you are talking about SJ, a man who has basically invented/reinvented three different new markets - to compare that with what Tim Spindler and his clique are currently "doing" is simply ludicrous.
Not just complicated - it is downright unintuitive - even for longtime users like me, Apple OSs have become a UI mess and much more Windows-like than Windows itself. The "Settings" app/section is just a tiny example of that disaster.
Well, first, forget the "all-new OS" nonsense - we're talking about a new user interface and application framework - plus, of course, these days an "operating system" involves a full supporting chorus of web browsers, media players, email & messaging clients, photo apps and probably a basic office suite of some sort, all using the appropriate UI and application conventions.
...and the problem is that different types of devices need different types of user interface. Phones have small screens and are entirely touch-driven while held in one hand. An Apple TV is designed to be operated by a remote control with only half a dozen buttons and the UI needs to be easily visible from 10' away (its actually known as a 10' UI). Macs have larger screens, are driven by trackpad/mouse and a physical keyboard. They may look grossly similar but if you actually try and design something non-trivial to work on both touch and keyboard/pointer you'll see the difference. For example - a mouse/trackpad lets you point at something quite precisely before you click. A touch screen is far less accurate (unless you use a stylus) and the system doesn't know where you're pointing until you actually touch it - which usually initiates an action. If that sounds pedantic, compare how you select/edit text on iOS vs. MacOS. Doing anything with text entry on an Apple TV is like kicking a dead whale along a beach so it needs to be avoided...
The point is that you can write one UI, one App that is usable across laptop/desktop/phone/tablet but it's not going to take full advantage of either medium, unless you go to great effort to make a fully adaptive/responsive UI. So much better if the key applications and utilities are designed specifically for the appropriate medium.
I did have a just-pre-iPhone Windows Mobile phone and the UI was a complete dumpster file, because the phone had (deep breath) a matchstick stylus, a small slide-out QWERTY keyboard, a "joypad", a jog/click wheel and function buttons on every surface... you had to try and decide which one of those worked best with whichever bit of software you chose (not that it woukd run actual Windows software - but what software it had used a windows-like UI). One of the key attractions of the iPhone was that everything had been designed from the ground up for a touchscreen-only device and just worked.
The other horror story that Apple probably want to avoid is Windows 8 and the "Metro" user interface that (basically) tried to design a UI/App framework that would work on both laptop/desktop, tablet and phone - it failed. Frankly, I thought it showed promise as a phone UI, but nobody wanted a MS/Intel phone by then and it was horrific on a laptop.
The much maligned Appl Vision Pro is mainly an effort to create user interfaces suitable for doing actual productivity work (rather than catching Pokemon or shooting aliens) using AR, head/eyball tracking, 3D hand gestures etc. A warmed-over desktiop UI running warmed-over desktop software isn't going to cut it.
So, the Watch - different uses, different UI requirement, different UI/Application framework required.
iPad - literally a half-way house between phone and laptop - iOS was too limiting for a large-screen iPad, MacOS would be unusable without a keyboard and trackpad (which turns the iPad from a great mobie device into a lousy laptop)
Presumably they've now decided that a Home Assistant needs a new UI - presumably to cope with a mixture of voice and a big-button UI.
Apple should have implemented face id profiles for the iphone.
Depending on the scanned face the phone will have the user settings and data...
Depending on the scanned face the phone will have the user settings and data...
I use the grid. It’s terrible but the list view is far worse. I only use a few of the billion pointless uninstallable apps which are not on a watch face or in the stack thing. So I plonk those at the top on the grid view so they’re right there, no need to scroll through all the crap.
I love the grid view, all the apps I want/use on a single screen, no scrolling
...and if they hadn't taken a risk and made the iPod and subsequent iPhone, they'd likely still have gone bankrupt long ago, because trimming the fat on the Mac product grid and switching to OS X might have kept the Mac staggering on for a few more years but wouldn't have solved the problem of Wintel's dominance and the gradual attrition of Mac sales by cheap commodity PCs.
Apart from making Apple shedloads of money and turning them into a huge consumer brand, iPod/Phone created a "halo effect" for the Mac - it's pretty much the textbook exampe of the phenomenon. Also it played an important role in keeping MS/Intel out of the mobile market - if Wintel had established a dominant place in that market as well as the PC market then the resulting leverage would have pretty much extinguished every other computer platform.
Point is, Apple today are rolling in cash and can afford a more diverse product range than when they were circling the drain... and if they don't find new lines then they're dangerously dependent on the iPhone continuing to sell forever.
< one of those twits who is dim yet technical enough to read this headline and think it meant a successor to OS X / NeXTSTEP (now 35 years old)
It just takes a wee bit of imagination to think of so-called "use cases." Apple will likely sell loads of their smart home hubs. I'll probably purchase one, depending on features and positive reviews.
But yeah... expecting the reflexive "Who asked for this?" that's often said when Apple releases a new product category.