Well, I use PS4 controller for Apple TV games. it is already compatible.
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Apple Working on Apple TV Models With A12 and A14 Chips, New Controller, and More
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Well, I use PS4 controller for Apple TV games. it is already compatible.
Totally agree on the 1st party games, but the hardware it could be argued that if Apple can figure out how to sync game progress between your devices that you walk away from your aTV and take your iPhone/iPad with you to continue your gaming. there’s stuff to work out there like controller requirements, etc. but that could be an “alternative” to the docking. And honestly I’d rather use my phone if the progress transfers and controls are OK. i like my phone’s screen and touch capabilities better than the switch’s screen. and I always have my phone with me
I’ve been waiting for this for a long time. Apple could not only dominate the casual gaming market, but more or less recreate the segment into something that’s pervasive across a much larger percentage of homes. That leads to a bunch of cross-selling both ways. It’s been a missed opportunity for a long time.
Honestly, the product is already pretty good but with 2 outstanding Achilles heel(s):
- We're in the tail end of 2020 and they're still using the A10X. That might fly if this were a $80 product. Unacceptable. Anything less than the A14 means I'll be looking at the Nvidia Shield or something with a little more oomph.
- That remote is 100% pure garbage. Absolutely one of the worst modern controllers of any consumer electronic I have ever owned. It's form over function, something Apple usually avoids with great skill.
They do need a controller in the box but it seems unlikely to me that this will happen. They still treat ATV box as a hardware product first which means they want to make profit selling it and with good profit margins too which is what they want from all their hardware products. They need to change this view and treat the ATV box as an appendage to the services (ATV+ and Apple Arcade). This means selling ATV boxes at cost or even at a loss. They would get a lot more money back from services and games if they do this. A controller in the box means a whole different level of gaming can be aimed at this device because they would not need to require all games to be playable without a controller. However, it's not really in Apple's DNA to take this route so I am doubtful they'll go this way. On the other hand they've been pushing services really hard lately. So who knows.
I don’t get everyone talking about a new remote. The current one is already small enough to easily lose, and you already can’t tell by feel or touch how it is oriented in your hand. Plus many functions require pressing a button multiple times with no feedback about whether the first press was accepted or not. What’s left to Improve?
The current controller makes it difficult enough to navigate apps on the homescreen, choosing episodes on Netflix is a game of the marble rolling balancing board Labyrinth. I tend to use my SONY's TV controller over the fidgety Apple one. I just purchased the Apple TV 4K (at full price), so not buying any new Apple TV soon, but a better controller would be nice.
I put a strip of fabric on the back of the controller to make it a) less slippery b) haptic feedback
I find that super annoying too...
I put a strip of fabric on the back of the controller to make it a) less slippery b) haptic feedback
I find that super annoying too...
Using multiple chips and limiting certain games to just one of them would be horible fragmentation and confusing to the customer. I don’t think that’s a good idea at all. I would prefer they keep it to chip generations by year as that’s much easier to understand and pretty much how things have always worked.
They do need to sort out the naming for their TV products. Apple TV box, Apple TV app, Apple TV+. Maybe they should rename Apple Music to AM+ too.
Will eat? They have been for years. In the case of Microsoft they have dominated the computer gaming market from the Mac's beginning with cheap PCs. With gaming already entrenched for Windows it hasn't been possible for Apple to gain any kind of traction here.
Apple Arcade is just a service that helps keep investors happy (diversification). It was never intended to take on Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft for significant gaming market share.
You forgot Apple TV Air. 🙃
I think they should change the hardware name. I think it’s really daft what they’ve done. So confusing. They need to work on the ATV app UI as well. Create a channels tab
Nintendo has had enormous success without making mature-rated games. Not everybody wants to play those.
I think what Google is offering with their new Chromecast with Google TV is incredible value. For only $50 they could make a huge dent in that market.
I’m really looking forward to the next tv more processing power for better games and an upgrade to hdmi 2.1 for eARC would be welcome. I am pretty impressed with the content on Apple TV + Tehran is awesome and so are quite a few of their shows . They need to buy out Disney then game over for anyone else
Hopefully it’s not another Siri remote like device because that freaking thing can go die in a fire.
It’s the worst human interface device I have ever used.
and I’ve used apple puck mice, Tandy coco joysticks and $10 pc keyboards.
It’s the worst human interface device I have ever used.
and I’ve used apple puck mice, Tandy coco joysticks and $10 pc keyboards.
I think you’re right, they probably should do some type of basic streamer, as opposed to the streaming+gaming device they have. With the A12/A14 + RAM + storage, the BOM cost is too high to sell that box for $50.
But there’s no technical reason they couldn’t sell a $30-50 dongle-type streamer, the cheaper the better. I haven’t thought about the strategic implications of that though. It might be at odds with their grand plan. (Whatever that might be; I sure as hell haven’t figured out what it is.)
If they really want to innovate... How about they just learn to play back video properly? Like not dropping every 1001st frame from all the lovely 24.00fps content out there? Just give me proper video playback and I will be happy.
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It is already possible. Gamecenter or other login and i have all my progress on iphone and ipad syncedTotally agree on the 1st party games, but the hardware it could be argued that if Apple can figure out how to sync game progress between your devices that you walk away from your aTV and take your iPhone/iPad with you to continue your gaming. there’s stuff to work out there like controller requirements, etc. but that could be an “alternative” to the docking. And honestly I’d rather use my phone if the progress transfers and controls are OK. i like my phone’s screen and touch capabilities better than the switch’s screen. and I always have my phone with me
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It is great. Maybe you should improve your router or provider
If the games are cross-platform, then why buy Apple TV? Apple's strategy has always ever been to make their systems walled gardens that contain stuff that is better than or unavailable elsewhere (even when that strategy fails).
PS5 comes by default without an optical drive.
I agree with the rest of the statement - I get decent gaming performance from a 15” MBP with dedicated internal graphics. Not PS4 level (comparing Borderlands 3 on both systems) but pretty close.
I can only imagine what they could achieve with a box the size of a Mini if they designed it around gaming and on the new chip.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know they released the Nimbus+. I have the original Nimbus, and its the most comfortable and good quality contruction, even over the Xbox or PS controllers. Yes, Apple should include this in their next Apple TV package.