Apple needs more of a Roku competitor. More people own Roku devices overall than Fire Sticks.
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Apple Working on Apple TV Models With A12 and A14 Chips, New Controller, and More
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I‘ve been thinking the same.
Yes, they maybe should have their own controller to be taken as a serious competitor in the game console market. But I don’t think that they intend to seriously compete in that market ...yet. And at the risk of being compared unfavourably.
I believe they are more likely to do something like a sneaky back-door entry into the market: Update Apple TV with new A series chip, sell it as an entertainment hub - and then try to sway developers into offering more and more ambitious games for the platform.
That‘s not to say that they won’t offer their own controller at some point. However, I doubt it‘s going to be included in the box. They first need to move boxes out to consumers - the cheaper, the better.
I desperately want better audio from a new ATV. The current gen is horrendous connected to my home theater and I’ve tried everything to make it better...
Native support for Xbox One and PS4 controllers is good enough for me.
What makes you think they haven't been working on it for years already? Also, doesn't Apple already have Macs with Apple silicon in them?When someone says that and Apple still has zero Apple Silicon Macs I sorta chuckle. Be realistic we would love to have alternative processor powered devices that are better, but technology is not a snap your fingers its ready, this takes a lot of time to transition to.
I find that the audio from the hardware is fine, but some apps have horrible audio. Using a b&w 5.1 setup with a separate sub, and a new marantz receiver with the Apple TV 4k. TV+ app sound is good. Hulu is bad. etc.
Hence Apple making deals to get the TV app on third-party devices such as smart TVs, Xbox, etc.
Because an attempt to cater to casual gamers would be the only reason to release upgraded TV hardware in the near future. The current unit already supports the just arriving into mainstream audio/video tech: 4K, Dolby Atmos, etc. In terms of movies, etc, the biggest (next) move Apple could make would be to lower the price a bit on the current-gen models.
Am I missing something? Do you mean many developers don't? ...Because... Connect a wireless game controller to your Apple device
Playing devil's advocate -- Additionally, you know the gamer stereotype
$99 would be a real stretch considering the cost, but I’ve been expecting Apple to offer a below-cost box with the purchase of an annual Apple TV+ subscription for awhile. I think $79 would be doable.
Similarly, a below-cost HomePod (mini?) with the purchase of an annual Music sub.
I'm hoping for a A14X or their best CPU for the Apple TV. If they go for anything less then they are not serious about gaming. For controllers, they could work with Microsoft and Sony so its optimised.
The only upgrade my current AppleTVs need is a remote control that doesn't suck. Hopefully they sell the remote separately.
I want everyone who said there was no point in an updated Apple TV to be banned from upgrading. I’ve had enough of their crap.
But, they absolutely are. PS5 and Series X are filled with old technology - inefficient x86 CPUs, optical drives, expansion slots, and the massive power supplies needed to feed them. Not to mention the massive heatsinks, heatpipes, and fans. If Apple's efficiency claims are true and they can match a desktop PC class CPU with mobile wattage, and they can do the same with graphics - all of that *bulk* can fall away.
The Series X's mainboard is a rather small device. It's just all that other *bulk* that turns it into a monolith
Following with interest. Apple TV 4K is easily the most used entertainment device in my home. Happy with the performance and have no reason to want to upgrade, but I can always be swooned by shiny new Apple gear 🥰
It would be nice to have a second HDMI out for those without 4k capable amps, but ultimately I struggle to see that there’s a market for an Apple priced box that is markedly inferior to a console (both in power and range of software) yet offers little if any practical benefit over and above the ATV app that is now becoming increasingly common.
I couldn’t hand on heart recommend an ATV over and above a 4K firestick, quite the reverse
I couldn’t hand on heart recommend an ATV over and above a 4K firestick, quite the reverse
I gave up waiting YEARS for Apple to update the ATV. I bought a Roku for $29 and not only does it rock, but it has ATV built into it! Heck, I might even trade it in for the upcoming $99 version coming out in a few weeks. I have 2 older ATVs but I could not wait any longer (and I wasn't going to buy a 3+ year old ATV model and have a new one launch a few months later) so I could get Disney+.
Moreover, if ATV was interested in gaming, they could/should have released gaming eons ago when they promised the iPod Touch would rule the earth as a gaming platform. I know Apple has Apple Arcade now (barely a year old) but I'm unaware of how popular it is and how ATV will attempt to compete with the upcoming Sony PS and upcoming Xbox and even the current Nintendo Switch.
Moreover, if ATV was interested in gaming, they could/should have released gaming eons ago when they promised the iPod Touch would rule the earth as a gaming platform. I know Apple has Apple Arcade now (barely a year old) but I'm unaware of how popular it is and how ATV will attempt to compete with the upcoming Sony PS and upcoming Xbox and even the current Nintendo Switch.
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Yes, it was Prosser in May. The MR article (the A12X rumor) was linked but not specifically mentioned in this article. Supposedly it was ready to ship.
As for the controller, I just got one of the new Nimbus+ controllers from SteelSeries and I really like it. I had a few original Nimbus controllers and the lack of R3/L3 etc. made it unusable in many games, but this new model is superb. Sometimes support is still lacking, I guess because it's a new model.
So yeah, they should give everyone a Nimbus+ in the box for the Pro model.
So yeah, they should give everyone a Nimbus+ in the box for the Pro model.
I doubt it. To compete with Sony and Microsoft, you would have to build a powerful console, uses technology like MS’s velocity architecture, has a 1 TB SSD, fantastic first party controller, and willing to sell it at a loss. I don’t see Apple ever doing that. They also don’t have the studios, triple A exclusives, etc.
I doubt any company other than Nintendo could get away with this. Nintendo’s first party games are what sells their systems. Also, the switch is a hybrid handheld/console, so it can be forgiven for being a little less powerful.
None released. Mini Mac DTK with a A12Z for developers to test Mac OS application compatibility on that processor platform.
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Nah.
Apple TV Pro 16 GB - $399
Apple TV Pro 64 GB - $499
Apple TV Pro 256 GB - $699
Apple TV Pro 512 GB - $899
Apple TV Pro 1 TB - $1199
Apple TV Pro 2 TB - $1999
No but to be serious, the Xbox series X is $499 and includes a 1 TB pcie 4 Nvme SSD. Gamers are losing their heads that a 1 TB proprietary add on card is being priced at $219, even though that’s pretty much the going rate for a pcie 4 m.2 card.
Hard core gamers will not accept Apple pricing for gaming machines.