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On Android! With 80% market share, it makes sense...

Market share hasn't really proven itself to be a very important metric.

Android has 80% market share... a phenomenal number... so why do developers make more money on iOS?

The answer is simple: iOS users... although fewer... tend to spend more actual money on things.

Of course you should also make an Android version in addition to an iOS version... but Android is not the slam dunk you'd think it would be.

Again... market share numbers and actual results don't exactly coincide. If it did... no one would ever develop for iOS because it doesn't have "enough" market share.

But that's clearly not the case, is it.

Android users won't pay 99 cents for an app... so do you think Android's 80% market share will rush to pay a recurring $8 monthly fee for music?

Some will.... but that's a MUCH smaller subset of that 80% market share.

In other words... don't put that 80% market share up on a pedestal. It's not as important as you think.
 
I wouldn't like the service being mixed into the music app. I like having them in separate apps because I have no need for the app, and don't want even more default services I don't use
 
Beats Music by Apple is going to reset consumer expectations of what a true digital music subscription service should be. I predict Spotify and Rdio will cease to exist within 2 years. Beats Music will have the best user experience anywhere. It will have the biggest library of music. And it will set standards that nobody else in this industry will ever come close to matching.

Last March you said iTunes Radio would only need 12 months to beat them. ;)

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18868663

Perhaps they can pull their fingers out and release this attempt at streaming in more than two countries, otherwise it will never be a "world leader". :rolleyes:
 
What's the difference between this and iTunes Radio? Isn't it exactly the same, with the only difference being that iTunes Radio is free if you put up with ads?

Go to the iTunes store right now. And imagine you could play any song from any album as many times as you want with unlimited skips and repeats. That's what beats music does.
 
I was reading an article last night that gave a quick rundown of Amazon Prime features.

They mentioned Prime Music... which I completely forgot about. So I downloaded it.

While they don't have the largest catalog... they do let you create playlists and download the songs locally onto your phone. And they have curated playlists too.

If you're already paying for Amazon Prime... you should check it out. Why not?
 
I'm hoping for integration with owned and streamed music a la Google Music/All-Play so there is seamless browsing of "your"music; that's where Spotify's UI falls down flat on its face ("Your Music/Songs/Albums/Artists" only shows stuff from Spotify and Playlists shows "Local Files" which shows stuff downloaded on the device).
 
How about some bug fixes before you add more?

How about fixing the WiFi problems introduced with iOS 8/Yosemite?, the bluetooth problems and more?

No more bloat until these are fixed please!
 
Developing an Android app as well? Hopefully this bring us one step closer to iMessage on Android!

I don't think so. I think this is more like iTunes on Windows.

Apple want Beats Music to be successful as a stand alone product, regardless of how well or badly the iPhone is doing. iMessage exists to make iPhones better.

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In other words... don't put that 80% market share up on a pedestal. It's not as important as you think.

Exactly, and given that each device carries an updated version of Android - and each carrier/device maker controls when/if their phones are updated, Android is almost a synonym for non-iOS.

It's not Google's version of iOS available for a ton of devices, as some people like to view it. It's not the Windows of the phone world.
 
Of course Apple will make an Android app when they can make money off of it.

That being said I'm really hoping they do beats service right. I'd even pay $9.99 if it has the ability of smartlist, able to sort music by year and genre, a webplayer (welcome to 2015 Apple this is a must!) and a large library (including the Beatles) I'm in! The one thing apple does do well is music/media.

Be extra nice and make an iMessage app for Android and I'd be heaven. One can dream right?
 
Go to the iTunes store right now. And imagine you could play any song from any album as many times as you want with unlimited skips and repeats. That's what beats music does.

Can you decide which songs you listen and in which order you listen them?

I don't have iTunes Radio (not in the US), but I though it was like Spotify?! In the sense that it lets you play any song in the world whenever you want for free? Why would anyone use iTunes Radio over Spotify then?
 
Beats Music by Apple is going to reset consumer expectations of what a true digital music subscription service should be. I predict Spotify and Rdio will cease to exist within 2 years. Beats Music will have the best user experience anywhere. It will have the biggest library of music. And it will set standards that nobody else in this industry will ever come close to matching.

The delusion is real. Spotify isn't going anywhere, it's the market leader. Apple will have to do phenomenally with Beats to beat Spotify's library and pricing model, especially for students.

Which they likely won't, because they can barely get iOS 8 and Yosemite's bugs fixed nowadays.

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Go to the iTunes store right now. And imagine you could play any song from any album as many times as you want with unlimited skips and repeats. That's what beats music does.

No, that's not possible. You can't play Beyoncé or Taylor Swift's new albums. And many, many other artists that don't want their music to be streamed. Be it with Spotify, Deezer, or what have you. And while those artists might not interest you, the millions of people who do listen to them will vote with their (or their parents') wallet, which mean that it's not as black and white as you would wish.
 
I don't have iTunes Radio (not in the US), but I though it was like Spotify?! In the sense that it lets you play any song in the world whenever you want for free? Why would anyone use iTunes Radio over Spotify then?

iTunes radio is like pandora not spotify. Spotify is 10$ a month iTunes radio is free or 24$ a year for no ads and iTunes match.

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The delusion is real. Spotify isn't going anywhere, it's the market leader. Apple will have to do phenomenally with Beats to beat Spotify's library and pricing model, especially for students.

Which they likely won't, because they can barely get iOS 8 and Yosemite's bugs fixed nowadays.

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No, that's not possible. You can't play Beyoncé or Taylor Swift's new albums. And many, many other artists that don't want their music to be streamed. Be it with Spotify, Deezer, or what have you. And while those artists might not interest you, the millions of people who do listen to them will vote with their (or their parents') wallet, which mean that it's not as black and white as you would wish.

Of course some artist don't allow their music I was giving the poster the general idea of how it works. I have no intrest in beats music or spotify. I like having my own music.
 
Of course some artist don't allow their music I was giving the poster the general idea of how it works. I have no intrest in beats music or spotify. I like having my own music.

I like Spotify for casual listening, but I do have my own physical and digital personal library as well (that I've maintained for years). For music discovery, Spotify is amazing.
 
I've had Spotify for over 2 years and haven't touched the iTunes Store since. I did give iTunes Radio (ad-supported) a try, and found myself going back to Spotify. You just can't beat the $5/month premium for students. They have an incredible catalog.

With all that said, I am interested in seeing what Apple has to offer. While I don't think they'll de-throne Spotify (not for a while at least), competition is always a good thing and can only benefit the consumer.
 
Was really hoping this would be cheaper than the $7.99 i pay for "google all access unlimited music key youtube" or whatever the name is.
 
This whole music subscription service is interesting, when over 10 years ago Apple was saying how ridiculous it was to charge $10 a month to listen to your favorite song, renting essentially. Wonder what shifted in the consumer market that people want to rent music?
 
Could Apple make Beats free on iOS, and just include it with the cost of the iPhone?

Like how iOS, apps and basic services are free?

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This whole music subscription service is interesting, when over 10 years ago Apple was saying how ridiculous it was to charge $10 a month to listen to your favorite song, renting essentially. Wonder what shifted in the consumer market that people want to rent music?

It's more like radio on demand. If everyone's talking about a song and you want to discover music, this is great. You don't want to buy a song you'll listen to for a few weeks then never hear again.

But sometimes you do want to own the music.
 
They should rename it to just "Music". That way both the OS X and iOS are consistent. Right now there is one red music icon called Music, and one red music icon called iTunes. Make a desktop app for each type of content in iTunes like it's done in iOS, and access the store through the apps. Remove the iTunes store app on iOS because it's redundant.
 
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