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Not to go off on a personal rant but I personally haven't found FaceTime worth the price that they're charging. Not that it's overpriced, but if it's anything like the beta I've used, that app has a long way to go. IMO, Skype does such a better job at the whole video calls thing for mobile devices and other laptops. That's just me though.
 
I've read most of the threads in this post and I still don't get people complaining about a 99 cent charge for FaceTime. Seriously?
 
If it wasn't released as a public beta (aren't all betas free?) then everyone would be saying what an awesome piece of software this is for just $1.

If you don't want it, don't buy it.
 
It's a matter of Apple lying

Show me how/where/when they lied.

Claiming "Accounting" as a reason is pure horsepoo.

I assume that's an official CPA term. I also assume you will be attaching a scan or photo of your CPA certification to back up your knowledge of accounting. Or your IRS credentials. JPEG will be fine.

It's a fricking dollar. If it's gouging, it's the IT industry's smallest, most feeble gouge ever.
 
Actually it's to do with the FASB regulations created as a result of SarBox, but I was dumbing it down to the same level Apple were when they announced it for a public forum.

Are you denying that said FASB regulations were relaxed in 2010 and this is no longer neccessary? Or that Apple stated that at the iOS4 launch themselves?

Phazer

99¢ isn't too bad. What I don't get is why does Apple have to charge for it? Can someone explain SarOx & the other accounting principles to me? And just so you know, when it comes to accounting, I make laymen look like Einsteins.
 



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Apple's $0.99 FaceTime Charge Due to Accounting Requirements

Whose requirements? Apple's? So Apple is being force by Apple to charge for it?

.99 isn't very much...
 
I assume that's an official CPA term. I also assume you will be attaching a scan or photo of your CPA certification to back up your knowledge of accounting. Or your IRS credentials. JPEG will be fine.

It's a fricking dollar.

Nice to see you ignore the rest of my original post. Steve stood on stage and claimed they would no longer have to charge for things like this.

The cost is not the issue. It's Apple's blatant lying. But as with most on here. you obviously think Apple can do no wrong.
 
Odd how people say how they just can't understand why Apple would do this when they want Facetime to be a success, but when presented with a valid reason why they just dismiss it as BS.

Do people honestly think that a company like Apple that has every little move it makes scrutinised to the minutest degree by investors, accountants, auditors, governments and tax agencies is going to just lie and say they're charging for something for accounting reasons knowing damn well that the lie wouldn't stand up to the slightest professional review and they'd be hung out to dry on it? Since when has Apple ever felt obliged to explain its prices? Why the heck would Apple say this was for accounting reasons when it wasn't? If they'd just done it for the money, why would they have even bothered to say anything? In other words, why would they bother taking a massive reputational risk and lying when they could just keep quiet?

Given Steve lied on stage about Facetime being an open standard that would be submitted to standards bodies in the first place during it's announcement?

Yes.

Again, Apple are either lying here or they were lying at the iOS4 launch event. The answers they are giving are mutually exclusive.

Phazer
 
Actually it's to do with the FASB regulations created as a result of SarBox, but I was dumbing it down to the same level Apple were when they announced it for a public forum.

Are you denying that said FASB regulations were relaxed in 2010 and this is no longer neccessary? Or that Apple stated that at the iOS4 launch themselves?

Phazer

The changes allowed Apple to account for the revenue for iPod touches differently in order to provide free updates. I think they had to hold out a limited amount of revenue from the sale of each iPod touch for future quarters. Obviously, Apple did not make the same changes to the way they accounted for Macs or OS X or whatever product they consider Facetime as adding functionality to.

It's silly to think of this claim as a lie, because what is the point? Apple could have just said that they chose to charge for it and nobody would care.
 
I don't know many people with iPhones so I don't really mind. If someone from my family/friends would have one, I would buy it, it costs almost nothing. I waste that amount of money daily when I buy an extra tomato that I end up not eating, or when I get two slices of bread that go mouldy because I didn't eat them in time.
 
Amusing

I don't know what is more amusing:
1) Someone in accounting (or marketing, etc.) deploys an evil scheme to "gouge" loyal apple customers with a $0.99 priced app; or,
2) Someone that believes that (1) is true.
 
Given Steve lied on stage about Facetime being an open standard that would be submitted to standards bodies in the first place during it's announcement?

You genuinely don't get the difference between a product and its underlying protocols? Facetime (the app) cannot be a "standard", any more than Windows is a standard. Of course they can submit Facetime's technology as a standard. The Facetime app is their implementation of said technology. And other vendors can make Facetime-compatible apps that are NOT called Facetime.
 
will facetime take the place of ichat?

I wonder if facetime will be on the next server version for services
and ichat and ichat services on sever versions will disappear? :confused:

I woud love to see this happening and people using facetime on iphones,ipads and desktops for secure chat, and video conferencing.
 
Because according to Apple, anything in the App Store (Mac or iOS) has to either be Free or a minimum of $.99

So it's Apple that set the rule of $0.99 minimum? They could make a new rule: "When forced to charge a fee to keep accountants happy, the fee shall be $.01."
 
People are seriously throwing a tantrum over $0.99?
Grow up, kiddos. Get a job or wait for Lion.
It probably won't break the bank then.

Of course, the cost of Lion... who-whee!
 
99¢ isn't too bad. What I don't get is why does Apple have to charge for it? Can someone explain SarOx & the other accounting principles to me? And just so you know, when it comes to accounting, I make laymen look like Einsteins.

This is MacRumors. You're positively encouraged to have strong opinions on things you have no knowledge of whatsoever.
 
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Oh grow up people. It's 99 freaking cents. Less than a can of soda. Good God.

I dont know where you buy your cans of soda but you're overpaying.
 
Given Steve lied on stage about Facetime being an open standard that would be submitted to standards bodies in the first place during it's announcement?

He actually said it was based on a variety of open standards and would be submitted to standards bodies.

Which part is a lie? Or are you just claiming that you can't charge for an open standard?

Again, Apple are either lying here or they were lying at the iOS4 launch event. The answers they are giving are mutually exclusive.

No, they aren't mutually exclusive.
 
You genuinely don't get the difference between a product and its underlying protocols? Facetime (the app) cannot be a "standard", any more than Windows is a standard. Of course they can submit Facetime's technology as a standard. The Facetime app is their implementation of said technology. And other vendors can make Facetime-compatible apps that are NOT called Facetime.

Yes, but my point is that Apple said they would submit those protocols and technologies to standards bodies and then never did so.

Other vendors CANNOT make Facetime compatible apps, because Apple never actually did the submission. They just lied.

Phazer
 
Does this mean the beta will no longer function? I'll wait for Lion before I'll pay for what-should-be-for-free app. I don't it often so if the beta will still work, I'll just use that.
 
Yes, but my point is that Apple said they would submit those protocols and technologies to standards bodies and then never did so.

Other vendors CANNOT make Facetime compatible apps, because Apple never actually did the submission. They just lied.

1.0 JUST came out. Remember? You were ranting on about it on the forums? The fricking day isn't even over yet and you're ready to hang them. Besides, how do you know they haven't submitted them? You don't. The standards process is long and boring. How long did it take H2.64 to be ratified as a standard? Years? That's not Apple's fault.
 
Dear Complainers,

1) It's 99 cents. You paid at least $1000 for your computer. That's 0.099% of the initial cost or less.

2) If you're really going to bitch about 99 cents, don't buy it. Simple as that. Apple isn't making you buy anything.

Is it really that complicated?
 
If this is indeed an accounting requirement, Apple should publicly commit to donating an amount equivalent to what they take in due to this requirement to some charity.
Yeah, and then all the whiners will complain that it's not their charity.
 
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