Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple's 2016 iPhone Update to Focus on Headphone Jack Removal, Major Changes Won't Come Until 2017
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Yes.....just so. When you shift enough product, when the competition are just as good, when the excitment goes out of anticipating the next product announcement......it's a commodity.
[doublepost=1466545809][/doublepost]
Is that you Tim writing that post.....certainly sounds like you?
What the heck do you use your phone for? Are you writing your computer science doctoral thesis while simulating complex circuits? I think the A7 is still more than enough, and overkill for a lot of apps. For instagram, snapchat, maps, music, and the occasional time-kill game, processor enhancements don't really offer much.
If you are maxing out the capabilities of the processor on your smartphone, you are using the wrong device for the task. I think something with an Intel Xeon or at least an i7 might fit the task better.
Correct, the A9 processor in current iPhones is already overpowered.....most people will be fine for next few years just with this processor alone...
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Maybe the weekend rumor is that Apple had decided to go ahead and eject the battery and camera too, both even more "antiquated" technologies than 3.5mm. Certainly the usual suspects would spin why those moves would be great for us too (just as soon as they started believing Apple was probably going to do it), with every bit of the passion/spin/lying/etc going into trying to rationalize getting rid of 3.5mm...
"Key to waterproof": Apparently water only wants to enter small round holes, not the larger, rectangular hole just millimeters away? And, of course, competitors have rolled out waterproof devices with 3.5mm. Can Apple not do what competitors can do?
"Digital is better": Yet our ears can only hear analog. Preserving a digital stream a few more mm should have little to no net gain for anyone. We're not measuring that preservation in meters here- just millimeters.
"DAC will be better": So why not put a better DAC INSIDE the phone... where one has to be anyway... so it can still work as a phone? And cheap adapters are going to have cheap DACs, so unless one pays up for their new iPhone "tail", there's no guarantee that the DAC outside will actually be superior to the DAC inside.
"wireless* is the future": Yet in the present, wireless typically delivers lower-quality sound, is another thing to charge, has lag problems when watching video and is much less accessible when you need to connect to much other tech where 3.5mm is readily usable now.
"lightning* is better": No, lightning is just a connector... and it's a proprietary one that will never be able to become as ubiquitous as 3.5mm or even bluetooth due to it's proprietary hold by a single company who will not even stick with it very long themselves because it will soon clash with "thinner" (tip up your own iDevice and look as the current state of "thin" vs. the size of the jack... then think about the near-term future). And do we really want precious space on the edge of future Macs to be taken by a Lightning jack for headphone use instead of- say- another USB3 port?
*both bluetooth and lightning jack options are ALREADY available for anyone who believes anything they actually spin about the superiority of either option. Those who believe what they are spinning can already embrace the better option. Killing 3.5mm is not an obstacle for anyone wanting to go either way now... or even in 2015.
"All you need is a small adapter": This one can be applied to a decision to eject the battery too... then the camera... etc. Apple could sell us an empty box for $1000 and then we could buy various "adapters" (sold separately of course) to attach together to get the features that used to come INSIDE a single box. Selling an empty box would be very, very profitable for Apple and AAPL... and apparently a chunk of us consumers prioritize such thinking over even what's good for us.
And my favorite...
"Apple must force changes for the better... like dropping floppy discs, embracing USB, etc" implying that consumers just can't embrace obviously superior on our own (apparently we're all too ignorant- cue the Henry Ford quote about faster horses), while ignoring that the obvious successors to technologies like floppy discs were already available, obviously superior and NOT proprietary.
Again and again in every one of these threads, the question keeps being asked: what's in this change for us consumers? It's obvious what "forcing" proprietary standards does for the corporation and AAPL. But what do we gain here? Could we get a no-spin, quality answer to that question? And why does 3.5mm have to go to deliver whatever answer is spun?
Last edited:
It makes me question my desire to upgrade for sure. My traditional 2 year upgrade has been closer to 28 months anyway and I'm not seeing any rumors that really spark my interest as of yet. I'm not too concerned if they drop the headphone jack and add a speaker (or don't). I'd like 3D touch and always on siri, but I've done pretty well without so far.
If it has only:
1. CPU/GPU upgrade
2. Water resistant
3. Antenna on top this time
4. Slightly better camera
Than no to an upgrade over my 6s
If it has the above, and with:
5. Fast Focus
6. Better screen
7. Better Speakers
9. An f/1.7 lens for lower light photography
10. Way better battery
11. Wireless battery charger
12. No Home Button
13. Smaller bezel
Than it's a yes to an upgrade
1. CPU/GPU upgrade
2. Water resistant
3. Antenna on top this time
4. Slightly better camera
Than no to an upgrade over my 6s
If it has the above, and with:
5. Fast Focus
6. Better screen
7. Better Speakers
9. An f/1.7 lens for lower light photography
10. Way better battery
11. Wireless battery charger
12. No Home Button
13. Smaller bezel
Than it's a yes to an upgrade
whoa.. mind blown... no headphone jack and camera lens flush w/ the body... the best iphone ever made. milk it apple! mooooo
The iPhone 6 only has 1GB of RAM which is too little now a days. You really can notice it when you do speed tests.
And the iPhone 6 aluminum alloy is not strong enough for such a thin device.
Yeah, just like iOS 10 was going to be the "Alice to the Moon" operating system update and what did we get - an emojification of iMessage - that's bringing it, huh?
So a 6SS in other words (6T?)
I have a 6S and no real need to upgrade. If it does get a tru-tone display, I'll be a little jealous but not much.
I have a 6S and no real need to upgrade. If it does get a tru-tone display, I'll be a little jealous but not much.
It's funny how people care more about looks... as in an external redesign, than actual hardware updates that do occur yearly. So vain. Oh no, it looks the same!!!! Fail /s
Did you even watch the keynote? All you got from it was emoji?
[doublepost=1466547903][/doublepost]
Society is, indeed, shallow. And vain.
Samsung Galaxy S series (standard version):
- S is all new obviously.
- S II is a redesign.
- S III and S4 share the same design.
- S5, S6, and S7 share the same design, with main difference being different material.
They've been doing a re-design every two years for a while now, I don't think it's completely insane and unreasonable to expect that pattern to continue. Not to mention removing the headphone jack isn't really much of a benefit if the phone isn't utilizing that extra space or re-designing the phone in some way.
Definitely worth it for peace of mind. Not having to worry about it, just like my watch is really nice.
Shouldn't we reserve judgement until the device is actually released?
Apple's 2016 iPhone Update to Focus on Headphone Jack Removal - fail
I'm sure the phone will be nice, but that sentence just sounds terrible
I'm sure the phone will be nice, but that sentence just sounds terrible
Same here.
And to think, up until the 5S, I used to upgrade every year. Now, I can't get all that excited about what have seemed like incremental changes.