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They have already clearified why they are skipping a year. The materials/technology needed to build the 2017 iPhone are not ready yet and they needed more time. Apple has released a new iPhone every year since launch, if they decided to skip a year and not release a new model their stock would take a massive hit.
Apple hasn't clarified anything. Apple has been silent.

Analysts have speculated,
MR has printed rumors, including this one.
Commenters have cursed Apple based on speculation and rumors. How (possibly) dare Apple (allegedly) release an (perhaps named) iPhone 7 where the only visible change is the (rumored) removal of the headphone jack and deletion of the antenna bands?
 
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They have to release something this fall.
A lot of people with iPhone 6 are going to upgrade their phones after two years, and even if the design will be roughly the same they're going to get 3Dtouch, a faster CPU and a better camera. Customers with the upgrade program with iPhone 6s are going to be disappointed but they have the option to keep their phone and sell it next year before enrolling to a new program
Valid point. I have an iPhone 6 and due for an upgrade October, but I think I will switch to an MVNO carrier for the next 11 months or so and enjoy the lower monthly price, save up for 2017 iPhone
 
Did someone steal your sippy cup of Apple juice?

I don't get it.
Is that you trying to be funny again??
If so--- I take it back:
you're actually much funnier when you're saying ignorant, off-topic moronic comments like: "lol, Steve wouldn't let Apple blah, blah, blah."
I thought your posts couldn't get any more devoid of thought & embarrassingly pathetic.
You proved me wrong.
Ummmmm.... congratulations?
 
It took me no more than 20mins but ok.

No, what is ridiculous is that everyone here seems to think that Design change = Innovation.

There are countless articles on the web speaking about the innovation that is the AX series of processors.

If it took 20 minutes you don't have much on there and there is no way you use your phone enough to make that 20 minutes back by saving those very occasional fractions of a second when doing something on your phone.

No, what's ridiculous is you thinking a faster CPU is innovation. Tell me, what was the last product you ran across that had a slower CPU/GPU then it's predecessor? Please tell me how something that is fully expected from every single new product ever created that uses a CPU or GPU is somehow innovative when Apple does it?
 
I don't get it.
Is that you trying to be funny again??
If so--- I take it back:
you're actually much funnier when you're saying ignorant, off-topic moronic comments like: "lol, Steve wouldn't let Apple blah, blah, blah."
I thought your posts couldn't get any more devoid of thought & embarrassingly pathetic.
You proved me wrong.
Ummmmm.... congratulations?

You look kinda silly right now dude. I'll leave why as an exercise for the reader as this is all very off-topic.
 
If it took 20 minutes you don't have much on there and there is no way you use your phone enough to make that 20 minutes back by saving those very occasional fractions of a second when doing something on your phone.

No, what's ridiculous is you thinking a faster CPU is innovation. Tell me, what was the last product you ran across that had a slower CPU/GPU then it's predecessor? Please tell me how something that is fully expected from every single new product ever created that uses a CPU or GPU is somehow innovative when Apple does it?

It took me less than 20 minutes to back up my iPad Pro & it is packed w/ over 60gb of data & HEAVILY used.... so that insult/assertion to the previous poster falls flat. If your computer backups are taking much more than 20 minutes; I assume it's YOU that's doing something wrong.
Also; though I concede that more clock cycles does NOT equal innovation... certainly often processor tech by Apple is innovative.
For example: inclusion of & use of the motion coprocessor was innovative. The code allowing Apple more direct access to the processor for graphics (Metal) was innovative, etc.
 
But you could do that today if you wanted, but you have not done so. That should tell you something about whether there's an actual advantage to replacing the jack with a power consuming adapter, or if it's change for the sake of it.

There is no comparison to eliminating floppy disks which were already in steep decline because of better alternatives. The headphone jack is currently used by nearly 100% of all buyers who use wired headphones or earbuds.

What is this FUD about a power consuming adapter? The adapter doesn't have to consume one drop more power than the 3.5mm Jack does, and in most cases won't. But when it does, it will be to power things like noise cancellation, which currently requires a bulky battery in 3.5mm headphones, and more powerful amplifiers than Apple can include in the iPhone, to drive larger, higher quality 3.5mm headphones which can't be used effectively with iPhones currently. And Apple will control the amount of power that can be tapped for these purposes, likely requiring these headphones to have a slim built-in battery which can be recharged through the same Lightning connection, without additional chargers and cables.

And where are all of these affordable Lightning headphone options I could be using now? Are they easy to use? Does Apple fully support them? Does Apple offer a set of Lightning headphones to set the standard for third parties and provide the tools to make it a comperbale le experience to what a customer can expect from an otherwise wired 3.5mm headphone set?

Audiophiles do use Lightning outputs to get better audio from their iPhones. But they aren't fully supported by Apple, and tend to be kludgy affairs tolerated by those for whom premium audio is paramount to convenience. Commercial headphone makers go where demand is, and yes a few have built Lightning headphones for those audiophiles who want higher quality audio and convenience. They are prototypes more than anything -- expensive ones at that, like first gen Apple products that don't come into their own until the second generation after Apple has figured it all out. But the headphone makers have not embraced Lightning fully because there is no demand for it currently, especially for the average consumer, convenience trumps high quality sound, and for most, the cheap current 3.5mm technology is good enough, especially considering the commercially available alternatives.

All the paucity of Lightning headphones being used by the consumer currently tells me is that they aren't as affordable as 3.5mm technology, for use on hardware or audio that hasn't been optimized to justify the cost.

But your argument is specious at best. Using the floppy drive example you so casually dismissed, it's equivalent to telling someone who lost their floppy drive in 1998 that a USB thumb drive was a far better alternative to the floppy disk, despite the fact most customers weren't really using the Internet to transfer files, which was still slow and unreliable, even for a 1.4MB file. USB thumb drives were expensive, and good luck using it to transfer files to another user who didn't have one -- which was most everyone. It was far simpler, faster, and much cheaper, to to put a couple of documents on a floppy disk and walk them down the hall than any other solution available at the time. Of course USB thumb drives were a much better solution than the floppy, but for the office worker at the time it didn't seem that way. Imagine if the prevailing attitude had been -- 'hey you can add a USB port to your computer now and use it all you want, just leave our floppy drives alone' -- how long would it have taken to move people over to USB? Necessity is the mother of invention, and in this case the driver of adoption. Take away the cheap inexpensive thing that works as good as the new expensive thing, and people will embrace it. But it had truly turn out to be better, or people will cling to the old regardless of the inconvenience.

But ultimately this all misses the point, because Apple wouldn't be removing the headphone jack if they had a choice. To continue making the phone as small and light as possible while improving and adding features, something else has to go. And it's not just Apple, it's all mobile phone makers, because it would be suicide for Apple to drop something so widely used when their competition doesn't have to.

As to your last point, just what is the percentage of customers who chose to use the wired headphone jack on their iPhones? A recent survey of 1.000 Apple Store customers suggests it's not much at all, and as we all know Apple doesn't cater to niche markets.
 
I cannot contain myself over the non-existent battery life. How could Apple do this to us, just to make the phone 0mm thin!?

Well you DEFINITELY got that right... the battery life on a non-existent rumored phone is truly non existent.
Lol, your bizarre exaggeration and overuse of hyperbole to the extreme (as in : "0mm phone") unwittingly paid off. Lol, you were accidentally correct!!
The equivalent of: "even a stopped watch is right twice a day", but hey- better enjoy the small victory.
I doubt it happens that often for you.
 
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It took me less than 20 minutes to back up my iPad Pro & it is packed w/ over 60gb of data & HEAVILY used.... so that insult/assertion to the previous poster falls flat. If your computer backups are taking much more than 20 minutes; I assume it's YOU that's doing something wrong.
Also; though I concede that more clock cycles does NOT equal innovation... certainly often processor tech by Apple is innovative.
For example: inclusion of & use of the motion coprocessor was innovative. The code allowing Apple more direct access to the processor for graphics (Metal) was innovative, etc.

Not everyone wants to be tethered to their computers.

Metal is a software API, introduced in iOS 8. The motion coprocessor wasn't innovative it was just more efficient by doing in hardware what they've already done in software. A natural progression of technology, much like faster processors are. They later incorporated that into the actual CPU instead of having a separate chip. Another natural progression of technology, particularly since these are called SoC's.
 
Hey now, don't be snarky. This article brings a few new things to light, such as Apple's desire to make this version thinner.

Your joking, right? since when Apple doesn't want to make anything thinner. The question here its what's the benefit? Are we getting MUCH battery life or some other tangible benefit I don't see right now.
 
They have to release something this fall.
A lot of people with iPhone 6 are going to upgrade their phones after two years, and even if the design will be roughly the same they're going to get 3Dtouch, a faster CPU and a better camera. Customers with the upgrade program with iPhone 6s are going to be disappointed but they have the option to keep their phone and sell it next year before enrolling to a new program
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iPhone 6SA (A = Again)
However, most ALL of those 6 phones will have been paid off. This isn't the yearly upgrade crowd who look at monthly cell phone payments as just a fact of life. Expecting people to pay $600 - $800 for 3D touch, faster CPU and better camera is a hella tough sale, IMHO. I'm just one of those, but at this point, it's a pass for me.
 
"Here's basically the same phone you already have, but now you can't use your current headphones with it."

Thanks?
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As someone who was going to upgrade from a 5s, I'm now happy to wait another year - as usual...
Get the SE... same phone you have, but faster and with a better camera and Apple Pay. I love mine, didn't even have to buy a new case :)
 
Wow! I'm amazed of Apple's creativity recently! That's SARCASM!!!

Don't know about you guys but I've never been a big fan of this round soap bar like shape, especially when it became bigger and extra finger stretching is needed to reach other side what causes iPhone to slip out of your hands if you don't use some squareish or rubbery case.

And no sticking out camera anymore?! What I'll rattle on my desk when bored?! That's again is the sarcasm...

iPhone 7 must have massive hardware overhaul then to convince some people to upgrade. I'm not yet convinced.

To be honest looking at latest Samsung divide I bought myself of considering how I could adopt Android interface... Unfortunately.
 
I wonder if the iPhone will be minor are they going to reveal a bunch of hardware to deflect. Maybe the MacBook pros to get people talking about that.
 
where

Also, please return to the topic at hand. Meltdowns and personal insults are not helpful.

Well, were, not where, but thanks anyway I guess. I fixed it.
Also, please get off your high horse! YOU started the OT posts with 1st the lame "Steve would never" crap, then more with your sarcasm of "whoosh" statement implying that the person that called you out for it clearly was just too dumb to get your high-brow humor, lol.
All you had to do to squash it & return to normal conversation was an adult like recognition of a silly error & a simple: "my bad", as opposed to a child like repeated defense of said comments by adding more stupid vapid, hollow, empty posts like your "sippy cup" attempt at an insult. (Or was that on topic??)
You are crying "let's get on topic!" after your myriad OT posts because it's embarrassing getting a public spanking.
At any time you may apologize, or say nothing, or say something of substance.
What you are NOT going to do is successfully make me think I should let you run rampart, then silence myself. Lol, valiant effort.
 



Rumors have suggested the 2016 iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus will not feature major design changes aside from the removal of the headphone jack, information that has been confirmed in a new report from The Wall Street Journal.

The iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 Plus will continue to feature 4.7 and 5.5-inch displays, with only "subtle changes" to the exterior of the devices. Past rumors indicate the two devices will be the same general size as the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, but with relocated antenna bands that no longer span across the back of the bodies.

According to The Wall Street Journal, the removal of the headphone jack will make the iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus thinner while also improving its water resistance. Just how thin is a matter of contention in rumors -- schematics show little reduction in thickness but KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has said the iPhone 7 could be 1mm thinner than the current iPhone 6s.

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Mockup of what the iPhone 7 will look like
While 2016 will mark a minor update, 2017 will bring major changes to the iPhone in celebration of the device's 10th anniversary. Citing sources "familiar with the matter," The Wall Street Journal suggests features could include an edge-to-edge OLED display with built-in Touch ID fingerprint support to allow Apple to eliminate the home button.

Apple is said to be deviating from its standard tick-tock upgrade cycle in order to introduce major new features in the 2017 iPhone, which take time to develop.
It is not known if Apple is permanently moving away from introducing new designs on an every-other-year basis, or if the 2016-2017 shift is a temporary one.

While The Wall Street Journal's report confirms the removal of the headphone jack in the next-generation iPhone, it makes no mention of other feature improvements that are expected, including a larger camera sensor in the iPhone 7 and a dual-camera setup in the iPhone 7 Plus.

Article Link: Apple's 2016 iPhone Update to Focus on Headphone Jack Removal, Major Changes Won't Come Until 2017
[doublepost=1466616588][/doublepost]well its such a good decision made by Apple team. i always get annoyed when i use face-time video plus don't want others to listen, besides that listening songs with wired headphones is such a mess. i hope there will be cute, newly designed wireless earplugs that will synced with all apple system. besides that i think they should change their camera, that pop up thing doesn't look good.
 
Well, were, not where, but thanks anyway I guess. I fixed it.
Also, please get off your high horse! YOU started the OT posts with 1st the lame "Steve would never" crap, then more with your sarcasm of "whoosh" statement implying that the person that called you out for it clearly was just too dumb to get your high-brow humor, lol.
All you had to do to squash it & return to normal conversation was an adult like recognition of a silly error & a simple: "my bad", as opposed to a child like repeated defense of said comments by adding more stupid vapid, hollow, empty posts like your "sippy cup" attempt at an insult. (Or was that on topic??)
You are crying "let's get on topic!" after your myriad OT posts because it's embarrassing getting a public spanking.
At any time you may apologize, or say nothing, or say something of substance.
What you are NOT going to do is successfully make me think I should let you run rampart, then silence myself. Lol, valiant effort.

Shhh. No tears now, only dreams.
 
If they had only released the first iPhone in 2006, we'd be one year ahead right now. I blame Steve Jobs.
Sorry, a bit of a st.... Answer. Your answer would have made sense, if there weren't any mobile oled displays.
Oled displays have been around for a while, and Samsung has made real progress the last 4 years.
Apple had the opportunity to be 1 or 2 years earlier. Now they are playing catch up.
 
Shhh. No tears now, only dreams.

Thank you so much for heeding your advice of staying on topic & not going COMPLETELY off the rails with your childish baiting and snarky silly impotent comments.
/s
Lol, your type are the absolute WORST. Gutless, neutered, and desperate for ANY type of attention.
If you were my child (thankfully you're not), a literal trip over my knee would accompany the verbal trouncing you're receiving.
But, by all means- add to your substanceless posts.
Troll = successful.
You succeeded in genuinely annoying me.
My understanding of your type is that's what gets you off- so congrats.
 
Thank you so much for heeding your advice of staying on topic & not going COMPLETELY off the rails with your childish baiting and snarky silly impotent comments.
/s
Lol, your type are the absolute WORST. Gutless, neutered, and desperate for ANY type of attention.
If you were my child (thankfully you're not), a literal trip over my knee would accompany the verbal trouncing you're receiving.
But, by all means- add to your substanceless posts.
Troll = successful.
You succeeded in genuinely annoying me.
My understanding of your type is that's what gets you off- so congrats.

Dude, give it a rest. I neither want or need your attention and I'd be really happy if you'd stop posting at me and especially pm'ing me. Get over it.

PS if you're genuinely annoyed at a post on the internet it's probably time to step away from the keyboard
 
Removing the headphone jack is a cynical attack on both users and on headphone manufacturers, purely to boost profits at Beats.

I guess there'll be an adapter available to use old headphones, but still, it's a total pain in the arse to need that.
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Switching to a 3 year cycle instead of a 2 year cycle would increase how often a lot of people are upgrading, I think.

I dunno. I think I'll wait till next year unless there's some great new must-have features in the 7. I'm still pretty happy with my 6, and I like the fact that it has a headphone jack.
 
Dude, give it a rest. I neither want or need your attention and I'd be really happy if you'd stop posting at me and especially pm'ing me. Get over it.

PS if you're genuinely annoyed at a post on the internet it's probably time to step away from the keyboard

Well, you're REALLY good!
To your credit- I have a strong streak of ignoring trolls that you've broke.
But- for the 1st time in a LONG while, I'm sure. You're right about something. You really aren't worth the irritation.

*blocked*
 
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