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Apple's Alleged Throttling of Older iPhones With Degraded Batteries Causes Controversy

There was already scientific testing on the “slowing down your old phone when new ones are released” and the conclusions are clear: Apple does not slow down older phones. Period. There is no legitimate debate after those tests were conducted.
 
Aakanayev said:
Point being it should have been announced, and it should've been optional.
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Come on man. That's a little unrealistic for a company to do. Im all about transparency but a company is not going to announce every compromise or error or change they make.

This is not directed at you but there is an overwhelming increase of an idealistic and unrealistic expectation from businesses and corporations. The customer is not always right, deal with it. These days everyone seems to be the victim.

Man, I hear you. It sucks your phone is severely short changed. We don't know why at the moment but I'm sure they have a reason. Maybe the note 7 explosions had something to do with it. Who knows.
 
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jayducharme said:
I don't get why Apple would do this (nor HOW they would do it). All slowing down someone's iPhone would do is make that person get frustrated and want to get a different phone -- and possibly not an iPhone. If, on the other hand, the person simply had a much shorter battery life, at least the iPhone would still be performing properly and perhaps encourage the person to either get it repaired or upgraded.
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Yep.
If battery life of their aging phone starts to get worse, most people can draw the right conclusions.
If battery life of their aging phone stays the same but performance goes to ****, most people will just get pissed at Apple for bad software updates.
 
More proof of planned obsolescence. The Geekbench scores are irrelevant to this. The older 6s and 6 have been wrecked by ios 11 and this is prt of the reason why.
 
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itsmilo said:
I hear more and for people being fed up with Apple. Mostly tech handicapped people too. Of course that is just my own experience. „It just works“ is long gone.

„i heard they break the phone if you replace the display by a 3rd party! They just want all our money!“

„My iPhone has gotten so slow!!!! They do it on purpose!“

„Have you heard of bug xy???? There are so many now and annoying updates every week“

„The iPhone 8 looks just like the old iPhone!“

„Apple is going to steal even more data with their face thing on the expensive iPhone X (not ten)!“

„Why is my damn iPhone always full!!!!! I bought the 128 GB one!“ ... uses 5 GB iPhone backup


... goes and buys next iPhone
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People just complain more and have an inaccurate recollection that the before time was all roses and candy.
 
I7guy said:
More power to Apple for making my device last a day, if that is what they are even doing as alleged.
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Or cost control to avoid replacing the defective batteries which is their own fault in the first place. As a bonus the slower phone will induce people to get a new battery or a newer iPhone so Apple gets some of that dough anyway. Tim you are a genius. I can’t wait to find out what sort of cost control was done on the iPhone X a few years down the line when it becomes old.
 
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Leonard1818 said:
My wife's 6s had the battery replaced during the recall campaign and within a year, it's back to shutting down between 20 and 30 percent, dying very quickly, etc.

There is no reason her 6s should be in this bad of shape 2 years after purchase.
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same here! also my wife's 6s. read that 11.2 is causing some battery drain issues so I was hoping it was related to that, but she's only running 11.1.2.

debating what to do now. either replace battery or get a new phone...
 
iOS 11 made my 6 Plus fairly unusable (extremely slow). It happened instantly right after the update.
 
Still having good luck with my 6s. I used a Mophie case for the first year of it's life and so didn't notice the battery issues until I stopped using it after the first year. Apple replaced the battery and I've had no issues since. iOS 10 and 11 have not seemed to slow it down at all. It's at 89% atm and I'm seeing full speed according to CPU Dasher. I'll take a look later in the day to double check but I'd be surprised to find something. Everything seems solid to me.
 
Most people on here are "overconsumers" anyway. They upgrade every year or two. Fickle. People want something new every time.

I want to see tests for the SE because mine is at 10.2.1. If this secret throttling feature exist, cool. I'm an Android guy anyway, so I will switch exclusively to it and won't need to carry two different charging standards around. Options, options, options.

Apple is doing the opposite to benefit the user. They are slowing it down to slow down the battery degradation. More speed, the faster it depletes during the day no different than Android's battery saving mode that gets throttled down. Just like slow charging is better for a battery's longevity.
 
iPhone 6s. Apple flat out replaced my phone when it was having battery issues as it was immediately prior to their issuing the replacement program for batteries.

So this device is less than a year old. CPU dasher reports 911 MHz, a significant throttling if true.

But more info needed. Most processors dynamically alter clock speed dependent on workload and power. I don't know how iOS processors work but it would be odd for them to be running at max frequency all the time, yes? So the question is is the throttling permanent or does it properly upclock during a task? Let's see.

Geekbench accurately reports my phone with a9 @ 1.85 GHz. An iPhone 6s geekbenchs at an expected ~2400 single core and ~4000 multi core. Mine however reports 1464 and 2513 respectively at 62% battery. Power saver is off. So I would say there appears to be credence to this story and I will be following it closely. I'd love to see more actual benchmark evidence from the community.
 
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mattynat said:
What if I told you, in an attempt to make more money, the GeekBench people changed the numbers people saw in order to stir up business to have people compare tests? Does it make more sense for Apple to do something under user's noses when they have more money than everyone or Geekbench, which is a company 0/10 people outside of viewers of this site (or ones just like it) know about.... Flash forward to a week and im sure CNN or whatever news channel you have says "according to Geekbench reports, Apple may be slowing down their older phones in order to save battery life..." BOOM! more business for GB...
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Your imagination is wild.
It’s not just Geekbench, try some other apps like CPU Dasher, which can show the clock speed and you will know it’s true.
 
I did some test with my two iPhones 6+ side by side, so I did some real world tests. The difference is just staggering, about 2x slower app opening with throttled device.
 
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I should check my old iPhone 6 Plus.
(I'm currently using 7 Plus)

My battery in the 6 Plus is toast. Drains really fast when it's not doing anything.

When it was running iOS 9, performance seemed good despite the poor battery life. But since I was forced to update it to iOS 10 to complete the unlock process with AT&T, its performance seems really slow now.
 
I'm still on my original battery 6s but think it might need replacing can't believe it been 2 yrs. It did shutdown on me twice when at 15% and 18%. I wonder if I can use the battery recall for a free battery replacement at Apple.
 
What else do you expect from a company that swindles in paying taxes and let kiddies from 10 years old produce their products??
It isnt the first time these rumours are spread, and its starting to look more and more it's true!
 
jayducharme said:
I don't get why Apple would do this (nor HOW they would do it). All slowing down someone's iPhone would do is make that person get frustrated and want to get a different phone -- and possibly not an iPhone. If, on the other hand, the person simply had a much shorter battery life, at least the iPhone would still be performing properly and perhaps encourage the person to either get it repaired or upgraded.
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I have a lot of clients that would just assume the iPhone 6 is old and would purchase a new phone.
 
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zonemster said:
Its not happening as described, stop listening to idiots. The slowing down of a iPhone 6 and 6s is due to battery preservation. When battery hits certain amount of cycles the software is trying to preserve its integrity and continuous work, don't expect battery of a phone after 1000 charges to be the same as the new phone, this is nothing new, it was in iOS 6 and Android has it too, so stop whining and go and replace the battery or buy a new phone.
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If the battery is crap, then let the users know its crap and give them a chance to replace it. Apple has no right to throtlle CPU, without anyone's consent or knowledge, just so the battery could last a little longer(in some cases not even that). Apple must've, or should have, known what CPU throttling would bring to phones. They damn well knew it'll slow them down to the point when the phones are more or less useless, since even the most basic function - Phone app - takes 5 seconds to open.
 
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