Yeah right. Apple uses mind control to magically control your finger to touch the update button that is inside the software update view, which is inside general view, which is inside setting.
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Apple's App Store Usage Numbers Suggest 46% Adoption Rate for iOS 8
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Yeah right. Apple uses mind control to magically control your finger to touch the update button that is inside the software update view, which is inside general view, which is inside setting.
While I agree with your general sentiment regarding an arrogant stance to older devices, with all fairness, Apple are pretty awesome at supporting their devices. They are still signing 7.1.2, and they will continue to do so and probably also continue to update and keep it signed until around this time next year. (Just like with iOS 6 that they stopped signing after 7.1.2 came out if I remember correctly - it was the big internet security update that iOS 6 never got - It stayed on 6.1.6 - that made a big hoopla this summer). At which point the iPhone 4 will have been officially supported and receiving updates for 5 years. I wonder if anyone can name another phone that gets that type of support? Pretty good as far as I'm concerned. That device has been the longest supported in Apple's mobile history, along with the iPad 2, which actually got iOS 8 too (My kids have that model, they still work great on iOS 8) - it is a testament to the phone that it has been able to "keep up" this long. I think you will find that the 5 and 5s will have even longer "lives".
Force? My old iPhone 4 -while not my main iPhone- is still on iOS 5 and gets used regularly.
Yes, that's more or less your understanding of it. However, that is not what happens. Your attempt is appreciated though: at least you tried.
The reality is that Apple makes downloading updates automatic, without anyone asking, provided you have enough free space for the update process.
Indeed. I do however have the option to delete it by entering usage --> storage. Question is though, will it just automatically re-download itself again?
Nope they didn't. Apple is still signing iOS 7 and will continue to do so for a long while, probably another 9-10 months. It will most likely also continue to receive point updates for security updates. These two posters are referring to this past summer when Apple stopped signing iOS 6, basically making it mandatory for all eligible devices to upgrade, because iOS 6 wan't going to receive the security update to patch the hole found last summer.
However, this isn't new. All eligible devices had to upgrade to iOS 6, iOS 5, etc as soon as the older versions stopped being signed by Apple.
Even then it wasn't forced, it was just not possible to downgrade back to the previous version. Big difference.
What happens is that all eligible devices will not see the new point updates to iOS 7, they will be fed the iOS 8 updates instead. However, as long as Apple continues to sign iOS 7 releases, it will be possible to restore to that version of the software as a "new" device. There are plenty of guides out there I think.
The thing is, people can't expect to have their cake and eat it too. They want to have all the latest security updates but on an older version of the OS, even though their device is perfectly capable of running the latest one. Apple has generally actively supported 1.75 major versions of iOS at a time, and with that I mean they generally stop supporting the previous release a few months before the future release is launched (i.e. stopped supporting 6 a few months before 8 came out).
The big argument with 7 was the whole new visual look and feel. This time I don't know what the sticking point will be with some people.
In general, 8 is a better and more functional version of 7. It makes perfect sense to wait until the software is a bit more stable with the first point update, and there is no problem with that at all, Apple is not "forcing" anyone at this point.
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Yeah, but it doesn't automatically install it, and you can delete it as well. You can also for the foreseeable future downgrade back if you decide you made the wrong decision in updating. Apple is and will continue to sign and update 7 for another 3 quarters or so.
All lies, don't ya know? I mean, remember now iOS 7 and it UI are super suck-tacular according to those in the know. The cognozati, those clued in, all stay with iOS 6. These charts are lies. Even if that isn't true, at the very least, the charts aren't representative of those that actually want to run iOS7 or accept the flat UI. It sucks sucks sucks sucks! Resistance!
so ios 8 has 2.5 months to get to 74% to be on pace with ios 7?
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does app auto update count as a visit?
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does app auto update count as a visit?
I don't think there is very precise numbers, Apple wasn't yet offering a developer webpage with such infos. The best we know was said during the 2013 iPad keynote, on 22nd of october:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8tnIMg-kmc&t=6m35s
200M iOS users measured on iOS 7 after 5 days
64% users measured on iOS 7 on the iPad keynote day
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you don't, but don't expect to update apps or get new apps either.
Correct. Shame MR can't point this out in their articles. A quality publication would note that these are for app downloads which are presently skewed toward iOS 8 due to the need to download the iOS 8 iWork apps right after installation. True iOS 8 usage is more in line with that found here. That said, iOS 8 adoption is certainly rolling along, and wise developers should abandon older versions immediately. You can code better apps faster for iOS 8 with all the great new APIs without the overhead of testing on multiple OSes. And besides, we know from history that iOS 8 will be adopted by >90% of users over the course of the year. iOS 8 is being adopted more slowly right now, but the end result will be the same.
It has nothing to do with whether it's a great update or not. I think that manual updates are really starting to get a bit antiquated - we expect web-apps to change and keep themselves up-to-date, and there are big benefits to security and the platform as a whole by doing the same thing with operating systems.
Even in the case of big updates (like iOS7) which drastically change how your device runs and feels, giving an option isn't really that helpful. You can't really experience it before making a decision, and the anecdotal "oh, iOS7 made my iPhone 4 in to a slug" reports have too many variables to really help inform you about what the update will do.
Most people don't really care about OS updates. If they woke up one day and there was a popup which said "hey, your phone has added a couple of new features!", they probably wouldn't be all that surprised.
I really wish people would take a more rational view of this. The OS was running on developer devices for four months. It is stable for the vast majority of people using it. The issues that you and many others are experiencing are related to apps that haven't been optimized for the new OS. You pointed it out yourself that Facebook is "glitchy." That's Facebook, not the OS. Their app is the one with the issue.
The problem is that Apple is vetting the OS with developers (and geeks who just have developer accounts) for 4+ months, while the app developers themselves have a very small testing pool until the public release of the OS. Once the new OS is released those third party apps that were developed in house are released to the wild, and their bugs start to show up. It takes a couple of weeks for developers to squash their bugs.
A perfect example: I use the Audible player app. Ran perfectly fine for months while I was running iOS 8 betas and the GM. Then, on release day Audible puts out their "iOS 8" designed app. Boom, it crashes and won't run at all. Took them two days to release a version that worked. That's how it goes.
Is iOS 8 perfect? No OS is. Especially on release. But you really should think about the fact that literally tens millions of people, including me are using it now with none of the issues you complain about. Therefore, it's much more likely to be variables, such as different apps and app combinations that are causing the issues, and not the base OS. Every year it's the same thing. Complaints about "how unstable this release is compared to previous releases." But Apple's X.01 release usually fixes one or two small bugs, while all of the other "instability" magically disappears as third party app updates are released.
iOS8 Breaks iPad 2 Cellular Connection
Odd that I haven't seen reported here yet an iPad2 iOS8 issue being widely discussed on the Apple forums. The cellular connection somewhat randomly and frequently disables itself and a "No Service" message appears where the carrier name normally is. The only way to temporarily get service back is a forced restart - very annoying. Based on the Apple forum postings, this is happening world-wide and with numerous carriers. For the many of us still using the iPad 2, and without constant wifi access, this is a major issue that Apple has yet to acknowledge.
Odd that I haven't seen reported here yet an iPad2 iOS8 issue being widely discussed on the Apple forums. The cellular connection somewhat randomly and frequently disables itself and a "No Service" message appears where the carrier name normally is. The only way to temporarily get service back is a forced restart - very annoying. Based on the Apple forum postings, this is happening world-wide and with numerous carriers. For the many of us still using the iPad 2, and without constant wifi access, this is a major issue that Apple has yet to acknowledge.
Is it really? Lol. There is very little numbers of 3GS & fairly low numbers of 4's around the world really
I agree with the original post. It is a forced upgrade. Now, if apple were to make DOWNGRADING easy, then it wouldn't seem so forced.
How many pre-5S phone owners would downgrade within a week or two after finding their phone slowwwwwwwed down. Forced obsolescence is what other posters call it.
I still suggest to always wait a few weeks to install any new IOS or OSX.
With everybody's set up different there will always be bugs that have to be found and corrected.
So,
iOS 8.1 will get me to install it and
Yosemite 11.1 or .11.2
Thank you to the 46% of beta testers
I still suggest to always wait a few weeks to install any new IOS or OSX. ...
iOS 8.1 will get me to install it and
Yosemite 11.1 or .11.2
Thank you to the 46% of beta testers
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I want the remaining bugs to get squashed before I jump in.
While I agree with your point, I have an iPhone 4 and wouldn't want to install iOS8 on it - I wish I hadn't installed iOS7 on it. I really like iOS7, it's just too slow on older devices.
From now on I'm doing no more iOS upgrades - I'll get the new OS when I buy a new device. Miss out on a few features, but keep a usably fast phone.
No idea, only Apple will know that - but like most people you don't wait for the autoupdate.
With regards to the adoption rate of iOS8 - it is great to see so many getting it.
Of my compatible old devices i've only updated the iPad Mini Retina - not done the 4S or the kids 2 iPad Mini - so my adoption rate is 25%
I'll update these once I know it's fine on these older devices.
This year most software developers will be dropping support for the iPhone4 and iOS6. That does not mean the newer app/webapp releases will not work on the iPhone4, it just means that we won't be testing on it so there is a much higher chance that things won't work or perform the way you expect them on these devices.
Not too suprising.
The older then iOS7 crowd consists mostly people with iPhone 4 and lower.
iOS 7 ran poorly on the iPhone 4, so many didn't upgrade, and how many people do you actually see with an iPhone 3G and lower. I went to the AT&T store this week and I had an original iPhone, most of the employees never even saw it before.
Being that the system prompts people there is an update and they just click on a button to update. Means most people will click Yes. So people with iPhone 4s and newer will just update. However people with the 4s may want to stay on 7.
The older then iOS7 crowd consists mostly people with iPhone 4 and lower.
iOS 7 ran poorly on the iPhone 4, so many didn't upgrade, and how many people do you actually see with an iPhone 3G and lower. I went to the AT&T store this week and I had an original iPhone, most of the employees never even saw it before.
Being that the system prompts people there is an update and they just click on a button to update. Means most people will click Yes. So people with iPhone 4s and newer will just update. However people with the 4s may want to stay on 7.