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Apple's AR/VR Headset Said to Feature Digital Crown, Waist-Mounted Battery Pack, and More
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PLEASE, someone make a better render than that god-awful ski goggles concept!
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Again, with the ability to display anything to our eyes, this can cover towards almost anything that commands the attention of our eyes each day. Some of us dream of an Apple monitor at 30", 32", 34", ultra-wides of various sizes, multi-monitor setups, a 24" monitor, etc. Conceptually, this could have ALL of those available inside.
Rather than be locked to a fixed location to do your computing or TV watching, this could make your desktop screen and/or TV be with you anywhere you are. Wanting to catch up with a show on the long flight but not really loving a 5"-10" iDevice screen? Toss what you want to watch to your primary TV screen (virtually with you, much like headphones bring your virtual stereo with you). Or watch on a virtual IMAX screen in a virtual theater.
Simple Services: enjoy going to a big game/concert/show? Front row, center tickets to big events can easily get into a few thousand dollars. Imagine a subscription service that can put you there virtually from wherever you actually are for considerably less? Why would considerably less be possible? Because this would allow the venue to sell the same "seats" to thousands or millions vs. only a few physical bodies... like how a time share can sell the same RE to dozens instead of only one buyer. It takes redirecting the cost of only a few live events to wash the cost of goggles, travel, parking, tickets, etc.
People spend LOTS of money on the Peloton-like experience of seemingly live trainer on a flat 2D screen. Would they not pay at least as much as Peloton pricing to workout with that trainer as if they are there in the room/space with them? The peloton price for 2D flat screen could easily be the Applepay subscription to cover goggles + service over time.
People spend upwards of $2K for a size-locked monitor. If they want more screen RE, they might spend another $2K for a second. A virtual monitor could be sized to ANY size or one could use any number of monitors "in there." Need a bigger screen for a task like video editing without so much timeline scrolling: make the virtual studio double in width... or triple on demand.
Apple struggles with manufacturing limitations due to covid, war, etc. A big chunk of the price we pay goes to these other parties to make the products. What if the same products are available as virtual offerings within the goggles? No supply chains, no political hurdles, much higher profit margin to buy virtual Mac than physical Mac, etc?
Again, use your imagination to "think different." If you build a device that can replace what we see with something that looks just as real as reality, anything we want to see could be served up in VR. Much like we use ear "goggles" (headphones) instead of lugging our stereos around with us at all times, this could be all visual mediums that command the attention of our eyes. I see towards unlimited applications on the VR side.
On the AR side, everything we use our phones to do now to guide us, give us added information, translate for us, etc. could all be inside these too. Up to almost all phone benefits could be inside. Up to almost all iPad benefits could be inside. Up to almost all Mac benefits could be inside.
All it takes is some imagination applied against the concept of feeding eyes like headphones deliver our stereos for our ears to envision many possibilities. We're the "think different" crowd. Try it.
Rather than be locked to a fixed location to do your computing or TV watching, this could make your desktop screen and/or TV be with you anywhere you are. Wanting to catch up with a show on the long flight but not really loving a 5"-10" iDevice screen? Toss what you want to watch to your primary TV screen (virtually with you, much like headphones bring your virtual stereo with you). Or watch on a virtual IMAX screen in a virtual theater.
Simple Services: enjoy going to a big game/concert/show? Front row, center tickets to big events can easily get into a few thousand dollars. Imagine a subscription service that can put you there virtually from wherever you actually are for considerably less? Why would considerably less be possible? Because this would allow the venue to sell the same "seats" to thousands or millions vs. only a few physical bodies... like how a time share can sell the same RE to dozens instead of only one buyer. It takes redirecting the cost of only a few live events to wash the cost of goggles, travel, parking, tickets, etc.
People spend LOTS of money on the Peloton-like experience of seemingly live trainer on a flat 2D screen. Would they not pay at least as much as Peloton pricing to workout with that trainer as if they are there in the room/space with them? The peloton price for 2D flat screen could easily be the Applepay subscription to cover goggles + service over time.
People spend upwards of $2K for a size-locked monitor. If they want more screen RE, they might spend another $2K for a second. A virtual monitor could be sized to ANY size or one could use any number of monitors "in there." Need a bigger screen for a task like video editing without so much timeline scrolling: make the virtual studio double in width... or triple on demand.
Apple struggles with manufacturing limitations due to covid, war, etc. A big chunk of the price we pay goes to these other parties to make the products. What if the same products are available as virtual offerings within the goggles? No supply chains, no political hurdles, much higher profit margin to buy virtual Mac than physical Mac, etc?
Again, use your imagination to "think different." If you build a device that can replace what we see with something that looks just as real as reality, anything we want to see could be served up in VR. Much like we use ear "goggles" (headphones) instead of lugging our stereos around with us at all times, this could be all visual mediums that command the attention of our eyes. I see towards unlimited applications on the VR side.
On the AR side, everything we use our phones to do now to guide us, give us added information, translate for us, etc. could all be inside these too. Up to almost all phone benefits could be inside. Up to almost all iPad benefits could be inside. Up to almost all Mac benefits could be inside.
All it takes is some imagination applied against the concept of feeding eyes like headphones deliver our stereos for our ears to envision many possibilities. We're the "think different" crowd. Try it.
Prince knew this 💩 was coming years ago. He knew tech companies would try to get people and computers so conjoined that all the user data about a person could be grabbed.
He was predicting Facebook and metaverse and it is sad to see Apple pressured to follow this 💩💩💩💩
‘It’s cool to get on the computer but don’t let the computer get on you. You all saw the Matrix. There’s a war going on and the prize is the soul.’
He was predicting Facebook and metaverse and it is sad to see Apple pressured to follow this 💩💩💩💩
‘It’s cool to get on the computer but don’t let the computer get on you. You all saw the Matrix. There’s a war going on and the prize is the soul.’
It sounds like an insanely complicated device that will be prone to all sorts of problems.
Mechanical motors, screens, physical bands that need to stretch, cabling, cameras, batteries.
And just wait until the “I must have a flawless device” crowd gets going.
Mechanical motors, screens, physical bands that need to stretch, cabling, cameras, batteries.
And just wait until the “I must have a flawless device” crowd gets going.
Lmao this guy wrote so much of this science fiction in another thread and everyone owned him and debunked him and he now trying it in a new thread.
So many hilarious rumors in the article.
Waist mounted battery with cable? what year is this ? 2016?
Outward-facing display to show the facial expressions? so much sci-fi fantasy. They'll release AR glasses for such interaction without resorting to such gimic tech.
Waist mounted battery with cable? what year is this ? 2016?
Outward-facing display to show the facial expressions? so much sci-fi fantasy. They'll release AR glasses for such interaction without resorting to such gimic tech.
All pointless use cases we already do perfectly well, actually better, on a monitor.
Facebook just lost their VR CTO at Oculus division, they took $9 billion in losses on "Metaverse", Microsoft tried and gave up on Hololens, Steam VR has mostly come and gone, PSVR and PSVR2 aren't cross compatible, what's the market for this potential Apple device?
VR is great, when it works, and for 30 min at a time before motion sickness kicks in? but it's such a limited use product.
VR is great, when it works, and for 30 min at a time before motion sickness kicks in? but it's such a limited use product.
Prince who? Philip? I don’t think he knew much about technology.
J/k. I was secretly hoping that ALL your posts somehow related to Prince. That would be a good shtick.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Who owned and debunked me? There is no sci fi in that post. All of that is possible now with the hardware we already have. This is basically just packaging it in a different way.
As I shared at your relentless pessimism about this concept in that other thread, obviously this is not for you. You seem to be taking a hatred of FB/Meta/Zuckerberg out on a new product concept rumored to be coming from Apple... which has NOTHING to do with FB/Meta.
When Apple rolls it out, maybe it will be as "nothing" as you endlessly imply. Maybe. the authority that is the musical artist Prince is actually the all knowing oracle of exactly how nefarious this product will be?
However, I suspect this will be something much more than you seem to be able to imagine. Will it be what I imagine? Only Apple knows. But I doubt it is only Oculus + with Apple logo for 3D game playing.
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"Hello this is Karen from Metaverse PR Department. I'm sorry for cold calling you today but we are feeling very lonely in the metaverse and were wondering if you would like to join us for the amazing introductory price of $420000.69? If you are interested here is a list of science fiction inspired ideas that you can totally do in the metaverse that will make your life as sad as ours"
Bro the Quest 2 alone sold over 30 million units in it's two years of life. I'm pretty sure we're long past the point of VR being considered "niche."
The problem with VR is a lack of software as of late. No one wants to use VR if there's nothing to do or play. Bring the software and people will happily dive headfirst into VR. Just look at Half Life Alyx. That game alone caused a mass influx of new VR users.
You’re asking crotchety old boomers on this board to have imagination, just stop, it’s a futile effort.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Peloton is not selling enough new buyers at the old pace. They still have many millions of bikes in homes and lots of subscription revenue being paid for existing owners to use those bikes. The point of the example is that the payment people make for that could be the payment to do something similar with these, covering the goggles like that payment covers the bikes and advancing the service from smallish 2D screen to 3D, like you are there, experience.
We seem locked into this idea of having to spend $3K out of pocket and then wait for something to do with them. Or that the most these can do is what Meta has offered with Oculus. For a crowd that generally worships at the alter of Apple- where we can rationalize $20 cloths to sell them completely out of stock- our imagination here seems thoroughly limited. What happened to "think different"?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I did not know that Apple and Meta are the same company. Thanks for the clarification.
Actually Gen Xers who have used every iteration of VR and don't like it or its super aggressive and lonely sounding fans. We really don't want people exposed to this level of isolation and toxicity in virtual space.
I hate VR for the same reason I hate what social media does to some people who really need to be part of the real world.
VR is a social technology, if you haven’t been able to figure that out yet, you never will.
Plenty of clouds out there for you to yell at.
People love to cling to outlandish rumors in order to justify their adverse views about any upcoming device from Apple, hoping it will flop.
Very reminiscent of iPod, iPhone, iPad, AirPods rumors and adverse reactions from past Apple introductions
I did not know that Apple and Meta are the same company. Thanks for the clarification.
Your science fictions didn't work in the other discussion and you copypasta them here like you're a professional sales person with a script. If you're a marketing person I understand. If you're a VR fan who just needs more people in virtual spaces with you, I understand.
But you're still posting a lot of science fiction.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
As I've asked now probably 4 or 5 times, what exactly is the science fiction I've posted? I've re-read my own stuff to try to imagine how it can be interpreted that way. Please share exactly what can't be done in 2023 with the mix of technologies rumored for this product and the right software.
Yeah I figured it out years ago as a user.
A cult of believers always accuses people of "not understanding us". We see the same thing in crypto ponzi spaces. Even if you know the stuff better than they do they will still attack and behave toxic. They will always use terms like "Oh you just a boomer" even if you're the same age.