The real winner is microLED (can display as black as OLED and no burn in issue)
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Apple's Budget iPhone X May Have Same Ultra-Bright, Low-Power LCD Technology as LG G7
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ding, ding. Exactly.
Rumor after rumor about this particular model sounds great: basically a better, more refined, next-generation X at a much lower price. What's not to like? It will even be a brand new form factor for those that so desperately desire a design change just so the world can know they own the "latest & greatest" for a while. So what's not to like?
Business Apple is not going to purposely drive down average revenue per unit sold unless that's their ONLY play. So where's the rumor about what key, desirable feature(s) is going to be left OUT of this model to shift the collective desire back towards the $1000+ level? I doubt the screen technology (OLED) is enough myself. I'm not sure a little bit of size up or down will do it either, as this falls into the classic consumer pitch of "small, medium or large?" (consumer typically chooses the medium). If the medium is also cheaper than small & large, the draw is that much greater.
Thus, we can expect something(s) key will NOT be there. Anyone have guesses on what that (those) will be?
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Then a year later, they remove one of the iPhone's defining features as well the telephoto lens, switch to a terrible screen by a company that really has no business making them at this point, and charge $200 less for the next iteration.
It isn’t as good as OLED.
This is enhanced LCD, that’s mean you can’t have true black like OLED and you still need backlight so it’ll thicker than OLED panel.
I'll have to check the next time my girlfriend is over but I'm fairly certain when here Essential is off, you can't tell where the screen ends and the camera notch begins.
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I don't know if I'd call it enhanced, if Sheza's post about replacing one of the pixels to include a white pixel is true. If that's the case, I'd call if modified LCD or a variant of LCD.
Sounds like a great upgrade from my 6+ as long as it has the A12 chip.
Price estimates are all over the place though. First it was $600-$700, then $650-$750, then Ming came out with a potential $500 price which doesn't even sound reasonable. Now the price rumor has increased to $700-$800.
I'm really hoping for a starting price of $699 or less with 64GB of storage.
Price estimates are all over the place though. First it was $600-$700, then $650-$750, then Ming came out with a potential $500 price which doesn't even sound reasonable. Now the price rumor has increased to $700-$800.
I'm really hoping for a starting price of $699 or less with 64GB of storage.
I think we already can’t tell the difference between OLED and LCD when screen is off,what I tried to say is when you display black near bezel you can tell that LCD display isn’t as black as bezel but OLED actually is.
I can't tell a difference on any screen after Retina came out. My best friend is obsessed with screens and quality, but honestly I just don't get it. I'm a healthy 30 year old guy with perfect vision so it's not like I can't tell a difference medically. I think it's just a ploy to charge more for supposedly superior screens (I know they are technically superior but if I can't tell a difference, that's really all that matters).
Not sure if you're addressing a separate matter, or interpreting that he addressed blending. But if it's the latter, it's not about the blending it's about bending the screen. He's addressing the fact that they bent the screen in order to place the components behind the screen, instead of having it on the screen's edge.
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Not sure how many of us there are but you are not alone. I have always disliked the super bright cartoonish looking colors of co-workers Samsungs and Motorolas.Could not give a damn about OLED so I am fine with thatI am probably one of the few who do not like those „tint..ish oilfilm“ looking OLED screens at all
Apple pretty much ALWAYS puts an older chip in their budget devices, which of course is understandable. It seems however a lot of people don’t expect this for some odd reason.
I’d expect an A11 chip in this device, but wouldn’t be too surprised if it gets and A10 like the “new” iPad.
The chances of it getting an A12 like the pricey X models is pretty much zero, as few would pay much more just to get an OLED screen.
Could also be that the new X models get FaceID gen 2, while this one get gen 1 from current X.
So in summary it will get a cheaper screen and shell, old internals, a single camera and possible old faceid.
I think it will still be the #1 selling iPhone, and Apple will as usual have great profit margins on it as all components have been produced for some time.
I can investigate that too, lol.
I can very much tell the difference between a quality and a crap screen. Now, I don't mean I can see the difference between OLED and LCD, I mean that I can observe a difference when I'm looking at a screen that Apple designed and say, a mid-tier robot phone with an LCD. Or especially now that Apple adheres to P3, looking at a plain sRGB specc'd screen is almost painful.
My biggest peeve though is pixel density. I don't believe we need screens that are 2K or higher, but I can see the pixels if the density is less than 400. That includes Apple's own Retina screens on phones that aren't the Plus series or the X.
Not true. There's a big difference between long pressing an icon on the home screen to make them wiggle and using 3D touch to access the app's shortcuts and widget. Long press and 3D touch are not the same gesture and produce different results.
I have to disagree. I've had HTC phones with amazing quality LCD screens and even as recently as last week, I was able to compare a 7 Plus to my X, and the 7 Plus looked just as good as the X.
Apple is finally step it up on their "budget" iPhones! Cannot want to see the SE2! The 6.1" screen is a state of the art screen too! Wow! When was the last time Apple use that type of cutting edge screen technology, maybe back in 2012? And if Apple puts the A12 SoC inside of both budget iPhones and both of them have 3GB RAM inside, I have to buy two budget iPhones (SE2 and 6.1") since I cannot just one!
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MLCD+ panels are thicker than OLED, but are considerably thinner than traditional LCD-LED with the white subpixels acting as the backlight.
I don't think it's correct to say that the white subpixels replace RGB subpixels, its simply a different layout. Instead of a horizontal four-block count of RGB, you have a vertical three-block count of RGBW. The white subpixel is added. We don't know if LG compensated by making the MLCD+ pixels smaller. My guess is they did, but the overall resolution shouldn't be affected.
Android Authority has a more in-depth article discussing MLCD+
https://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g7-thinq-mlcd-display-861285/
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The single camera on my iPhone 8 does indeed bother me, knowing that Apple sells a better camera. I should have got the X.
I'm really surprised by the indifference/negativity to OLED in this thread. I would easily continue to pay an extra $200 to get OLED on a phone, at least until microLED or another tech with perfect blacks comes along. My iPhone 7 had a great screen and rich color gamut, but when I upgraded to the X I knew I'd never go back to regular LCD. In fact it's so good I actually prefer watching HDR movies on the iPhone X to my HDR TV (w/ LED local dimming). I've never had a single issue with burn-in or anything else. It's quite simply the most beautiful screen I've ever owned.
All that said, I'm glad Apple is making the other features like FaceID available at a lower price.
All that said, I'm glad Apple is making the other features like FaceID available at a lower price.
Yeah the screens look the same because Apple color calibrated them the same way but what I meant is about the way the content sticks in.